Whey hey! my car's been waxoyl'ed... I think

[mark.t]

keep us posted

Dieselman better take 2 coats

just like a mercedes paint jobby

 

[uumode]

Not any more!!!!

All New Mercs are now being galvanised. This is very recent introduction and is TOP SECRET.

Believe me you are privalidged to know this.

Gets coat and leaves Country.

You mean they have to kill you now?

s'OK.. I didn't hear or see anything

Psst ... there is a boat that leaves from Dover at midnight password phrase is 'galvanise my panels'

 

[andy_k]

tee hee they were galvanising Vauxhalls in the 1960s but switched back for one simple reason - the cars didn't go rusty and were lasting too long

Does anybody seriously believe the manufacturers want to sell us a car that will never rust?

Andy

 

[uumode]

tee hee they were galvanising Vauxhalls in the 1960s but switched back for one simple reason - the cars didn't go rusty and were lasting too long

Does anybody seriously believe the manufacturers want to sell us a car that will never rust?

Andy

I can accept that argument
Otherwise demand will dry up.

What I can't accept is for MB to make cars which rust as fast as a 1970's Datsun (which is a backwards step). I'd be happy if they matched a modern day bread and butter car like a Peugeot.


I'm booking in my car again to have it Waxoyled again.

 

[Spinal]

UHMMM... I'm guessing "waxoyling" is the process of scraping rust off and painting the underside of a car with some waterproof substance. Right? (Sorry, im new at this). On average, how much does this process cost? How often is it done? Put a young kid out of his misery
Spinal

 

[Dieselman]

UHMMM... I'm guessing "waxoyling" is the process of scraping rust off and painting the underside of a car with some waterproof substance. Right? (Sorry, im new at this). On average, how much does this process cost? How often is it done? Put a young kid out of his misery
Spinal

If you do it yourself you can do the whole car for about £60 in wax. A compressor helps a lot.

For a "proper" professional job you will be looking at £350. If you are thinking of keeping the car then it's a must.

Try these people if interested.

http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/index.html

http://www.thewaxworks.net/index.html

 

[Spinal]

Very interesting! And although I have a compressor and ramps to raise the car, I have a feeling this is one thing not for the DIY store! Only problem is they're way up north from me! Does anyone know of someone htat does this in the london area? (Or west of London, but not as west as cardiff )
Spinal

 

[Alps]

Spinal, if you got a ramp your sorted, its really easy to do, you dont even need a compressor, a 5 ltr can from halfords and the spray kit is all you need, mask the sides of your car up, brakes and other bits you dont want to hit and spray away!

i did all the arches on my other halfs Mk1 cab over the weekend, just need to get it to my mates garage to use the ramp to finish the underneath off.

 

[Dieselman]

Very interesting! And although I have a compressor and ramps to raise the car, I have a feeling this is one thing not for the DIY store! Only problem is they're way up north from me! Does anyone know of someone htat does this in the london area? (Or west of London, but not as west as cardiff )
Spinal

Before-n-after are in Newbury, hardly "up North".

 

[uumode]

I find from 'my' London friends at any rate,
anywhere outside the M25 is somewhere as distant as Antarctica

- they hardly venture out of the capital into the sticks.

 

[uumode]

And my car is back again from the MB bodyshop today

There is more transparent waxoyl this time, (at least 'I think' it's transparent waxoyl, hope it's not just water - some of it feels like Vaseline) No strong smell about it though (which I thought was the case with waxoyl)
Some overspray on my windsreen though.. had to use window polish to get it off (looked like a fine transparent matt mist, not too disimilar from tree sap)

Not all of the underside has been covered (e.g. top middle of picture)

But I 'think' it's acceptable?
Or at least if it rusts through in say 3 years, I can hopefully point out they DID "wire brush and wax it as a rust-proofing measure"

 

[big x]

Don't panic !

Can you confirm the year and mileage of your car please? The subframe rust looks perfectly normal to me for a UK car operating on salted roads,in fact where the subframe bushes join the bodywork,the actual structual bodywork appears to be rust free.At the front the top spring turrets also look good,some W210's have extensive rust here.I must admit though if the car was mine I'd be tempted to exhange it for a late BMW E39 528i.They have part aluminium suspension and good corrosion protection
I would of thought most of what's been sprayed on (from what looks like an aerosol can) will wash off driving down the motorway in heavy rain !
Interesting idea spraying the exhaust ! You can't get the staff these days.


adam

 

[Spinal]

I'm back! Not for long as I am meant to be cloning minesweeper for my uni (well, mine-field so M$ doesnt sue them for teaching their students to copy M$ products). Anyways, although "anywhere outside te M25" isn't always far, (i have driven ALL the way down to my hometown in italy. Within the uk, my farthest from london is cardiff). Northampton, is a long drive for someone that has no idea where it is and just looks on multimap . But to be serious, if its that easy... anyone have a how-to on this? Ramp the car (im guessing no removing of the wheels if its on ramps); mask the body off and just spray the underside? Thats it? Do I need to brush off the rust with a wire brush beforehand? Anything else needing to be done? Have any of you people done thing before? Any chance the stuff catches fire, freezes my face, or makes me waterwproof?
Thanks!
Spinal

 

[Glideman]

Thats really bad on such a new car, mines a 1994 E class & it's good as new on the underside and the panels. Maybe it would look better with black wax-oil? Have they stoped doing something with the new cars which they used to do, maybe to stop them lasting as long?

 

[uumode]

Can you confirm the year and mileage of your car please?
adam

It's a July 1999 with 93k under it's belt.

btw.. what happened to your? MB?

 

[uumode]

Thats really bad on such a new car, mines a 1994 E class & it's good as new on the underside and the panels. Maybe it would look better with black wax-oil?

Yeah, would look better, though thinking about it, with transparent you can see if the corrosion gets worse, with black you can't see a thing. I've read if black waxoyl is applied after a car is washed and not dried properly, it can trap moisture and it can rot away the metal underneath the wax.

 

[big x]

<<<btw.. what happened to your? MB?>>>

Yes,I still have my c-class,a good car for the money but I'm saving up for
a 4 year old BMW 540i with manual transmission.
I'm wondering how Mercedes are going to honour their 30 year corrosion warranty on E-classes as there's no doubt floorpans will be rusted through
by 20 years at the latest IMO.I've seen 20 year old BMW's with shot flloors being scraped and the underbody on these was galvanised with thick sealent applied so a w210 with rot at 5 years has no chance .I'm basing this judgement a 1987 525i which I've had for 12 years.
My guess is MB will buy them back at some point at top book and scrap them.

adam

 

[Dieselman]

<<<btw.. what happened to your? MB?>>>


I'm wondering how Mercedes are going to honour their 30 year corrosion warranty on E-classes as there's no doubt floorpans will be rusted through
by 20 years at the latest IMO.I've seen 20 year old BMW's with shot flloors being scraped and the underbody on these was galvanised with thick sealent applied so a w210 with rot at 5 years has no chance .I'm basing this judgement a 1987 525i which I've had for 12 years.
My guess is MB will buy them back at some point at top book and scrap them.

adam

Probably they will find a get-out for not honouring the claim. Don't forget that the warranty only covers rust from the inside to the outside. Uumodes was from the outside so not strictly covered.

Regarding the BMWs was the floorpan definately galvanised. Often the body is galvanised but not the floor.

 

[Dieselman]

And my car is back again from the MB bodyshop today

There is more transparent waxoyl this time, (at least 'I think' it's transparent waxoyl, hope it's not just water - some of it feels like Vaseline) No strong smell about it though (which I thought was the case with waxoyl)
Some overspray on my windsreen though.. had to use window polish to get it off (looked like a fine transparent matt mist, not too disimilar from tree sap)

Not all of the underside has been covered (e.g. top middle of picture)

But I 'think' it's acceptable?
Or at least if it rusts through in say 3 years, I can hopefully point out they DID "wire brush and wax it as a rust-proofing measure"

I'm surprised they didn't wax the front spring cups as they are a known failure point.
Not exactly cleaned in the wheel arches was it.

On the areas done you will be surprised how well the wax stays on and works.

Re treat every three to five years and it wont rot at all.

 

[big x]

<<<Probably they will find a get-out for not honouring the claim. Don't forget that the warranty only covers rust from the inside to the outside. Uumodes was from the outside so not strictly covered.

Regarding the BMWs was the floorpan definately galvanised. Often the body is galvanised but not the floor>>>

Well, I guess MB figure that few 20 year old cars are going to have a FMBSH so that could be a get out clause and at the end of the day as 85% of their new car sales are to businesses and what happens down the line to latter owners they can just brush aside.There are very few long term owners who keep their cars from new for a long time.
I have a 1993 launch catalogue on the C-class which says 60% of the body is galvanised so given that the bolt on panels and roof are not the whole of the bottom of the bodyshell must be ?
I've noticed on my old BM that it takes years for stonechips to start to rust as the Zinc migrates.Mercedes stone chips need attention ASAP.

adam