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why does it get bigger and bigger?

I'm still left wondering why if 124's are so fantastic you are selling the 'Best' one in the country to buy a completely different Make:confused:

Ditto, Ive been in many W124's & dont get me wrong I think they are nice cars but rust aside I cant see how they are that different from a W202 or any other Merc from around that time. W202s interiors are virtually the same quality as W124s - Early W202s even have W124 switchgear.
Apart from the crappy velvet glovebox insert & the seat control surrounds they are exactly the same for build quality IMO

W124s perfect? no way!
 
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From the day it was launched, I could never think of the W140 as other than the Helmut Kohlmobile -- commissioned and designed to fit him perfectly. You remember Helmut -- for obvious reasons, he was the one who refused to join in a press-photo bicycle ride with Blair and other clowns.

W124s perfect - no way. W124s better than all other cars of their time and than most cars since -- right on.
 
I'm still left wondering why if 124's are so fantastic you are selling the 'Best' one in the country to buy a completely different Make:confused:

if you go through my threads i have stated my position, which is i dont always hang on to things.. and i am hindu.. and thus, if anyone wants something of mine, have it.. if it is an asset, buy it.. etc..

plus my dream has always been a Bentley Azure, though having heard some recent feedback, i am a lil cautious on looking for one.

though i have spotted some other w124 cabs for sale that interest me... one being a 200k mile 1 owner car and the other is in Australia.. bit far lol...

Overall, all my cars are for sale, i was at one stage considering these new e class coupes, but i think im not going down that route.
 
Well, I for one, am very glad that cars are getting bigger because so am I!

I had a CLS as a courtesy car for a week last month and must admit that I did feel the seats a little snug around the back of my ribs after a couple of 500 mile days.

I suppose that MB know their audience pretty well, your average buyer of new MB's (and they are the ONLY people that MB sell cars to) is hardly likely to be starving - he/she is more likely to be a well fed, business lunched, well padded individual.
 
Hey, this is about personal choice too. New Golf too big - buy a Polo. Polo now is probably bigger than a Mark 1 Golf.
New E Class too big buy a (Bentley if you are The Boss!! - oh crackin' plate for you on a Bentley in Lancashire Boss, GB 1) C Class or an A Class.
 
Bigger and bigger

'Health and Safety' are to blame. Look how dash boards have got nearer since the airbag and all these gadgets and computer units need space to live. It's happenning with all makes of cars (look at the VW Golf) as other industries jump on the bandwagon and make our interiors smaller yet exteriors larger. Now we have Sat Nav for the non map reader, yet this technology once fitted as standard in all cars will only be turned around so that they no where you are (road pricing), how fast your going (goodbye speed cameras) and what music your listenning too.
 
Yeah, but wasn't it an elegant car!!! I think the first gen XJ6 was the best of them all, beautiful, perfectly proportioned lines. The latest version looks ungainly by comparison. Be interesting to see what the NEW XJ will look like - launches next month I think..

It looks epic and nothing like these photo shops that auto express have been churning out.

9th July ;)
 
NEW JAG - 100% correct!

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Sorr... this is the new car.. lines look gorgeous!

Im really excited... !
 
'Health and Safety' are to blame. Look how dash boards have got nearer since the airbag and all these gadgets and computer units need space to live

I have to disagree.

If this was the case.. please explain why the above is not applied to the new gullwing interior of the slc
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gorgeous, now compare it to the following mainstream merc dashboards...

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or this
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deep, massive, ugly

Look at this and you see pure clean compact design, which everything else is just big, bulging and damn ugly!
 
Very nice…however. Eyeball vents...stock W123. And the instrument cluster… er W109… Nothing new there then….let’s go round and round again!!!
 
I'd have to come in by saying that modern cars are much smaller than in days gone by .

Thinking back to the 1960's , when I grew up , our family car was a Fintail and it wasn't a big car : just a normal size compared to what everyone else was driving - our neighbours had a Vauxhall PA Cresta (quite a common car back then) , Ford Consuls , Zephyrs etc all a similar size . While you did get the likes of Morris Minors and Ford Anglias , most cars on the road were bigger than nowadays . This is noticeable in as much as parking spaces have shrunk in size over the years to reflect the reduction in size of the average car .

I've got my Fintail sitting on the drive behind my W126 , both cars are about the same size ( I'll need to measure , but the Fintail might actually be slightly longer than the SEL , despite being the standard wheelbase model ) and there is definitely MUCH more space inside the Fintail ! This was Mercedes mid-sized car in the 1960's , although for a time they didn't have a larger model above it (apart from the 600) . The model range went something like the following

During the 1950's you had the Ponton series : the 4 cylinder models W120 and W121 ( 180 and 190 ) had a slightly smaller body and could be more or less equated to the C Class ; then you had the six cylinder Pontons W180 (220,220S) which would fit in roughly where the E Class sits now ( my W105 219 has the six cylinder engine shoehorned into the small body , sort of like a 190E 2.6) ; at the top of the range you had the W186 'Adenauer' 300 series which would be the S Class , if you like . There were also various coupes and cabriolets based on the larger saloons . The 190SL , incidentally , is also a Ponton with W121 designation as it shares its floorpan , engine and running gear with the 190 saloon .

Round about 1961 , the smaller and mid range Ponton saloons were replaced by the larger and more American styled 'Fintail' saloons - these were known officially as the Ponton B models , although the name 'Heckflosse' (translates literally as tail feather or fin) stuck on the continent . Again there were 4 cylinder 190 models in the slightly smaller W110 bodyshell ( still about the size of a current E Class though ) and known as the Kleine Heckflosse which would have sat where the C Class currently is in the range , and the 6 cylinder 220 , 220S , 220SE models in the larger W111 body which would have equated to the E Class but , as mentioned above , were as big as a W126SEL . The Adenauer 300 was discontinued after the introduction of the Fintail series but not directly replaced at that time , so a better specced Fintail came out with the 300 engine , air suspension and a lot more chrome to set it apart from the lesser Fintails - this was the W112 series , even though the shell was essentially the same as the W111 . This range of cars was completed by the W113 'Pagoda' series sports car which had a shortened version of the chassis .

Mercedes , at this time , were also busy developing the W100 series , introduced in 1963 - the 600 or 'Grosser' state limousine which really is the ancestor of the Maybach and a bit above the older Adenauer saloon in the range . The replacement for the Adenauer came in the shape of the W108 series a couple of years later .

The Fintails continued up to 1967 or so and were replaced by the W115/W114 'New Generation' saloons which are also known as the /8 or 'strich acht' models signifying the 1968 model year introduction - this is the car to which the modern E Class can trace its roots since it was in turn directly replaced by W123 , W124 , W210 models respectively . When the New Generation came out it was described by the factory as a 'compact' model , while the W108/W109 series were considered 'full size' . For those not familiar with the model , the W114/W115 was about the same size as the W123 which replaced it .

With the replacement of the W108/W109 in 1972 or thereabouts by the W116 ( the first car to be officially described as the S Class ) same size on the outside , less roomy inside , and the introduction of the W201 190/190E , in 1983 , you then truly had the architecture of small , compact and full size models that live on today in the C , E and S class current models .
 
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Sorr... this is the new car.. lines look gorgeous!

Im really excited... !

Thats the LWB, SWB will be available at launc, and I still think thats got a bit of artistic licence on it, but near enough there!
 
Good Morning Folks,

To be a bit controversial on the design of new cars, Mercs included, aren't the designs AWFUL

Of course I am not bias, as my daily driver is a new 9 5 Estate, had to get one before they changed the 14 year old design
I love my two - W124s - the Coupe is lovely - even my wife say so, but she thinks the TE looks like "an old" car
My choice in Airhead BMW Bikes is a 1975 R90S, but I would love an earlier R69S
Oh! and finally - I am moderately restoring a nice 2CV

My ideal new car.......a totally rebuilt "old classic"... particularly a 1990s Merc or early S type Jag saloon - there are some great ones around at "new car money" - why would you want an expensive, bloated, computer designed, executive safety cage that could easily be driven at outrageous speeds by a 12 year old kid, (or even a premier league football "star")

Cheers
 
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