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RichardM said:
The benefits of leasing the car Brian, I didn't see the bill :D nor did I for the 4 new Michelin Pilot Primacy tyres.



MB Hertford couldn't apologise enough when they gave me a car without any petrol (a brand new C200 with sports kit). Before they handed over the keys they gave me a £20 voucher for the petrol station up the road.

4 new tyres @ 19000 miles???????? did you find out what size they were, as some garages recommend changing @ 3 mm. :confused:

Your dealer sounds a good en mate. :rock:
 
Brian WH said:
4 new tyres @ 19000 miles???????? did you find out what size they were, as some garages recommend changing @ 3 mm. :confused:

Your dealer sounds a good en mate. :rock:

They were trying it on, the tyres are at least 2.5 mm above the bar that runs across the tyre to denote wear. The mechanic told me they were down to 2.5 mm which techically is right, 2.5 mm above the wear tread, which means nothing, So in my book I will get another 15K out of the tyres before changing.
What they depend on is most people who buy new cars don't know one end of the car from another they just depend on the local garage to keep them right.
BTW the tyres are 225 16 50 continentals.

Dave
 
Brian WH said:
4 new tyres @ 19000 miles???????? did you find out what size they were, as some garages recommend changing @ 3 mm. :confused:

Your dealer sounds a good en mate. :rock:

At the service (19K miles) they said the rear tyres were low. I got them checked again just before 24K and they were down to 1mm :crazy: The front still had over 2 but the lease company caughed up for all 4.
 
Dave Kerr said:
They were trying it on, the tyres are at least 2.5 mm above the bar that runs across the tyre to denote wear. The mechanic told me they were down to 2.5 mm which techically is right, 2.5 mm above the wear tread, which means nothing, So in my book I will get another 15K out of the tyres before changing.
What they depend on is most people who buy new cars don't know one end of the car from another they just depend on the local garage to keep them right.
BTW the tyres are 225 16 50 continentals.

Dave

Just went through my invoice this morning, £28 for two windscreen wipers, £3 for topping up my screenwash, there's a squirell away here somewhere, I think I must have had MUG written across my forehead, I thought it was only the other 10 customers but it was me as well.

Dave
 
I read through the owners manual and it states clearly that the vehicle needs to be services by 'An approved Mercedes-Benz service provider' to maintain the warranty. It says nothing about having to take the car to a stealership.

Still no response to my letter the DaimlerChrysler 'customer services'.

A friend who has a Mercedes-Benz lease car (UK supplied) has it serviced by an independant service centre-and the warranty is intact.

I smell a rat here: it seems that there is a two-tier service organisation in place in the UK. One where you and I pay through the nose to keep the stealer franchises going, and another where the servicing is better value, but is kept secret from Joe public.
 
Big_Stick said:
I have today written to DaimlerChrysler UK for clarification (I attached part of teh OFT report). I will publish their response. Here is my letter:

Customer Care Department
DaimlerChrysler UK Limited
Tongwell
Milton Keynes
MK15 8BA


1st March 2004


Dear sir or madam,

New vehicle warranties and Mercedes-Benz authorised dealerships

I have recently read a report from the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) criticising vehicle manufacturers, including DaimlerChrysler UK, for insisting that a vehicle is serviced by a franchised Mercedes-Benz dealer in order to ensure that the new vehicle warranty remains valid.

I note that the OFT report states that DaimlerChrysler will be removing this restriction in the New Year (see report excerpt attached).

In view of this I request the following information:

· If the vehicle no longer needs to be serviced at a franchised Mercedes-Benz dealer then please provide a list of independent non franchised servicing outlets where I can have my new C-Class, registration XX53 XXX, maintained without invalidating the manufacturer’s warranty.

· Please provide a list of independent servicing outlets who are authorised to perform warranty repair work.

If you can provide any additional information which will assist this query then I would be grateful if you could send this to me.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully,


..still no response. So had another one sent out by recorded delivery.
 
Ye gods. I finally got a response from the DC 'Customer' Assistance Centre in Maastrich.

Basically it says bog off.

They are not withdrawing the condition for the vehicle warranty only being valid if it it serviced at a M-B dealer.

This is in direct contradiction to what they told the OFT last year, and what the OFT put in their report. So I have sent the DC letter to the OFT for comment.

Well I had to, didn't I?
 
Big_Stick said:
Ye gods. I finally got a response from the DC 'Customer' Assistance Centre in Maastrich.

Basically it says bog off.

They are not withdrawing the condition for the vehicle warranty only being valid if it it serviced at a M-B dealer.

This is in direct contradiction to what they told the OFT last year, and what the OFT put in their report. So I have sent the DC letter to the OFT for comment.

Well I had to, didn't I?


Good for you - keep us all posted as I to am interested as I`ve always paid the premium price to have my cars serviced at the Dealership...
 
Thieving buggers. One thing that I always do is buy the oil for the service - I think Costco charge about £20 for a 4-litre of Mibile fully-synth, which is less than half the price of MB. Not a huge saving, but still at least £40 on an average service.
 
Ye gods again! Blimey! I got an email from the OFT Competition Enforcement department this morning (e-mailed them yesterday): they are definately not happy!

They are contacting DC UK as they are 'very concerned' about the information I have been given.

I will keep you all posted.

Looks like DC UK have me in their bad books now..no goodwill work for me when my car is out of warranty....at least you lot will benefit I hope!
 
At last I have got the list of authorised M-B service centres who are not dealers (though that does not mean they are cheaper):

Ciceley Continental Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Queen Street
Preston
Lancs
PR1 4HH

Tel: 01772 201455
Fax: 01772 201423



Glen Henderson Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Heathfield Road
Ayr
KA8 9HE

Tel: 01292 282727
Fax: 01292 282700


H L Gorner Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Wigan Road
Ashton-in-Makerfield
Wigan
WN4 8LY

Tel: 01942 717373
Fax: 01942 271260



Medway Autos Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
London Road
Rainham
Kent
ME8 8PT

Tel: 01634 388887
Fax: 01634 377360


Mertrux Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
10 Chequers Road
Derby
DE21 6EN

Tel: 01332 268261
Fax: 01332 268266


North Riding Garages Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Eastgate
Pickering
North Yorkshire
YO18 7EQ

Tel: 01751 472251
Fax: 01751 473582


Vikings Canterbury Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
A28 Mill Road
Sturry
Canterbury
Kent CT2 0AD

Tel: 01227 711112
Fax: 01227 712664
 
Big_Stick said:
At last I have got the list of authorised M-B service centres who are not dealers (though that does not mean they are cheaper):

Ciceley Continental Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Queen Street
Preston
Lancs
PR1 4HH

Tel: 01772 201455
Fax: 01772 201423



Glen Henderson Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Heathfield Road
Ayr
KA8 9HE

Tel: 01292 282727
Fax: 01292 282700


H L Gorner Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Wigan Road
Ashton-in-Makerfield
Wigan
WN4 8LY

Tel: 01942 717373
Fax: 01942 271260



Medway Autos Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
London Road
Rainham
Kent
ME8 8PT

Tel: 01634 388887
Fax: 01634 377360


Mertrux Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
10 Chequers Road
Derby
DE21 6EN

Tel: 01332 268261
Fax: 01332 268266


North Riding Garages Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Eastgate
Pickering
North Yorkshire
YO18 7EQ

Tel: 01751 472251
Fax: 01751 473582


Vikings Canterbury Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
A28 Mill Road
Sturry
Canterbury
Kent CT2 0AD

Tel: 01227 711112
Fax: 01227 712664


I called one of them for an A service on a C-Class and it was a reasonable £153 + VAT !!!!
 
This goes on a bit, but is the SMMT view. So, no doubt Mr Macgowan of the SMMT will be interested in the email from Daimler-Chrysler as well as the OFT. Perhaps the odd Motoring Hack as well?

House of COMMONS

MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE TRADE AND INDUSTRY COMMITTEE

The uk automotive industry Tuesday 9 March 2004


Q65 Chairman: Just one last point on this issue. The further modification of the block exemption is going to cover servicing and no longer will people be obliged to be locking into badged servicing centres, as it were, and how do you see that? The general feeling is that it did not guarantee service in the way it had been intended. How do you see the industry addressing this challenge now, when one would no longer be obliged to go to the local dealer-cum-garage for servicing?

Mr Macgowan: We are in the middle of delivering that which the block exemption regulation demands, and, of course, the Office of Fair Trading have a very big role to play in this to make certain that we comply with the rules. I think you are right, Mr Chairman, I think that consumers will understand that they are free to take their car for service work wherever they wish to, provided the work is done to an appropriate standard, and those that wish to do so will do just that. It is an interesting dichotomy, that, in actual fact, it is the case, as you say, that many consumers actually wish to remain within the franchise network, and do so, and some wish not to and they will be free to do that also. Provided the standards are met for service work, which they will be, I think that it will give consumers real choice, which is what it was intended to do.

Q66 Chairman: Is it the case that some of the servicing is dependent upon specialised equipment, which is still going to be within the control of the car manufacturers themselves, so that by drip-feeding this equipment on to the service market they would still be able to dictate who would do the servicing?

Mr Macgowan: I think that the Office of Fair Trading will take a very dim view of that position. The reality is that manufacturers are obliged to make authorised repairers a possibility, some will have many, some will have few, and it is something which is happening and will happen. Some of the manufacturers have got very advanced programmes whereby they are setting up authorised repairers as we speak.

Q67 Chairman: Do you see your role as the trade association having any policing function in this, or do you see that being left to the OFT?

Mr Macgowan: No. Obviously, the OFT is Brussels' police force, so the answer to the question is, yes, it is down to the OFT, but our role is to underline to our members, if they need it underlining to them, and to date that has not been the case, what their obligations are, and they are rising to the challenge. You will see authorised repairers emerge and consumers will have that option.

Q68 Chairman: You understand why I am asking that question, because the block exemption has been in place for a while, you have been one of the organisations, you might say, responsible for maintaining standards and these standards have not been very high. Hence the recognition of that by the removal of the block exemption obligation. So you have got to get your act together as well, I would imagine, on this?

Mr Macgowan: I am pleased to tell you that we are doing precisely that. There is a new Code of Practice in place with the Office of Fair Trading which addresses just that point. I am very confident that the spirit which was laid down in the new regulation will be fully translated into reality. There is no future in anybody trying to hold back from that. It is enshrined, it is there and you would be making a mistake not to embrace it
 
Sp!ke said:
hmmm... not sure on this one. I believe that George Fraser does warranty repairs if memory serves me correctly.
Correct!
 
Ciceley Continental Mercedes-Benz Authorised Repairer
Queen Street
Preston
Lancs
PR1 4HH

Tel: 01772 201455
Fax: 01772 201423


Dont use these, they are terrible and will refer you to Mb Preston, plus any phone call requiring a phone back will be ignored. Be Advised !!
 
Sp!ke: Please close this thread: Very very important information now under new 'Mercedes Servicing-OFT facts' thread. Really justifies a separate discussion.

***EDIT*** Done :)

Please see 'Mercedes Servicing-OFT facts' thread HERE
 
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