Anyone seen any good number plates on cars lately?

[Oldbarrack]

Saw 69 JOB many years ago, used to be around the Beckenham area.
Still on DVLA as untaxed / tested.

I had that number (69 JOB) when I first started with them in the late 70's, it only sold for a few hundred back then; it started out life on a 1963 Austin Cambridge.

Rather like cars, I've sold a few I now regret....

I'm been thinning down my collection for the last few years now, but it's a slow process as I am not a big fan of the newer spaced out words so have never bothered with anything much pre 1963.
Quite a few are still on their original cars and that's proving a great bonus now, as the price for virtually anything from the '50's > early 60's is into 5 figures now - which is a nice bonus when I put them on retention or sell the number.

I have my own initials 'mirrored' in two cases, that used to cause some bemusement amongst other parents when my wife took the children to school in one car and picked them up in a different car with the mirror plate.
- Most people are not very observant......

 

[Maco]

We have SUP8R on our e class, been in my partners family for a lot of years.

 

[Tiim533]

Only good for today really

 

[Oldbarrack]

1 1OU maybe?

No IOU numbers have ever been registered, or sold in auction.

11 OU was released in 1936, but it comes up blank so was most likely scrapped.

 

[Darrell]

No IOU numbers have ever been registered, or sold in auction.

11 OU was released in 1936, but it comes up blank so was most likely scrapped.

So I wonder what he saw?

 

[Oldbarrack]

I think the entire system is daft. Why can't we have what we want and pay for it. Obviously there will be restrictions but I think it would earn the DVLA more money.

When the DVLA first started their auctions they undertook with The Institute of Registration Agents and Dealers and similar bodies not to flood the market with number plates and restrict them only to those which never got issued.
(Although they did).
(Quite a lot never got reversed for example, but more importantly for some, local council records were archived such they were not retrievable once Swansea was formed; thereby dealers created a lot of nice numbers in the late 70's before and immediately after the big DVLA strike of around 1978.

If you want a particular number, a proper cherished one, as long as it is likely to make over 2k, I can get it put in a DVLA auction if you wish).

 

[Red C220]

If you want a particular number, a proper cherished one, as long as it is likely to make over 2k, I can get it put in a DVLA auction if you wish).

Are you in the Number Plate business? There are a one or two I'd like but they are already owned so I assume just not available.

How do you go about working out what isn't issued and what's available?

I'm looking for the following that don't appear to be owned:-

ACD12
ATS21

Neither show on askmid.

 

[mat8n]

So I wonder what he saw?

110 U
?

 

[Oldbarrack]

Are you in the Number Plate business? There are a one or two I'd like but they are already owned so I assume just not available.

How do you go about working out what isn't issued and what's available?

I'm looking for the following that don't appear to be owned:-

ACD12
ATS21

Neither show on askmid.

Only in a very small way, but I have access to a lots of old data from when I was more active many years ago before, I started my principal business which I sold in 2007.
I contunue part time because I have a fair stock of numbers either on retention or on old cars in my hanger - mostly nice numbers being from the early 1950's to 1963.

ACD and ATS were both issued and by coincidence both in 1943.
They were never reversed, that means DVLA cannot technically sell them as they can only sell previously unreleased numbers, they can however sell reversals.

The only ACD numbers DVLA have sold by auction was ACD 34S.

ATS is entirely different story, they have sold all the reversals from 1 ATS to 25 ATS, plus 50, 55, 60, 80, 83, 100, 111, 180, and 723, the only of note in prefix form are F1 ATS, F10 ATS, P,S, & Y3 ATS, W111ATS, Y33 ATS and Y333ATS.

80 ATS made £8,600 and 1 ATS made £7,500, the other fluctuated in-between, a very approximate average of around £2500.
(Bear in mind there is VAT on those, plus VAT for the auctioneers, you need to add about 20-25% for the full cost.

Summary: I would suggest the likelihood of getting what you want are now rather slim I am afraid, but I will ask a few who are retired but have redundant stock like the afore mentioned 69 JOB, I'm pretty sure a guy called John Cocking still has that.

 

[Oldbarrack]

Spotted on my mothers driveway

 

[Red C220]

Only in a very small way, but I have access to a lots of old data from when I was more active many years ago before, I started my principal business which I sold in 2007.
I contunue part time because I have a fair stock of numbers either on retention or on old cars in my hanger - mostly nice numbers being from the early 1950's to 1963.

ACD and ATS were both issued and by coincidence both in 1943.
They were never reversed, that means DVLA cannot technically sell them as they can only sell previously unreleased numbers, they can however sell reversals.

The only ACD numbers DVLA have sold by auction was ACD 34S.

ATS is entirely different story, they have sold all the reversals from 1 ATS to 25 ATS, plus 50, 55, 60, 80, 83, 100, 111, 180, and 723, the only of note in prefix form are F1 ATS, F10 ATS, P,S, & Y3 ATS, W111ATS, Y33 ATS and Y333ATS.

80 ATS made £8,600 and 1 ATS made £7,500, the other fluctuated in-between, a very approximate average of around £2500.
(Bear in mind there is VAT on those, plus VAT for the auctioneers, you need to add about 20-25% for the full cost.

Summary: I would suggest the likelihood of getting what you want are now rather slim I am afraid, but I will ask a few who are retired but have redundant stock like the afore mentioned 69 JOB, I'm pretty sure a guy called John Cocking still has that.

I currently own:-

12ACD
20ATS
21ATS

I'd like the reverse of two of them if possible so I'd really appreciate it of you could check please. I'm not interested in anything prefix or suffix, just dateless.

All the above were circa £4000 to £4500 a plate all inclusive so I'm comfortable at that price point.

 

[Oldbarrack]

The ACD now makes sense, as on looking properly it's actually a 1933 number, but reversed in 1962, so never sold at auction but there are some are around.

The ATS is 1948, but was never reversed, so could be auctioned and both yours made £1800, on 20th Mov 2012 and 21st March 2013 respectively.
(It's possible the DVLA sold it in a timed auction, I have no records of those.)

Your price points are possible, but the % regularity of Christian, middle and surnames rate both the combinations quite desirably.

I sold 19 MOE and FHC 28 for the mid/upper 3k's this month; neither are particularly good combinations compared to yours.

Anyway, I'll track down one or 2 people who are also essentially semi retired but very knowledgeable, and shake a few other branches and see what comes out!

 

[Red C220]

The ACD now makes sense, as on looking properly it's actually a 1933 number, but reversed in 1962, so never sold at auction but there are some are around.

The ATS is 1948, but was never reversed, so could be auctioned and both yours made £1800, on 20th Mov 2012 and 21st March 2013 respectively.
(It's possible the DVLA sold it in a timed auction, I have no records of those.)

Your price points are possible, but the % regularity of Christian, middle and surnames rate both the combinations quite desirably.

I sold 19 MOE and FHC 28 for the mid/upper 3k's this month; neither are particularly good combinations compared to yours.

Anyway, I'll track down one or 2 people who are also essentially semi retired but very knowledgeable, and shake a few other branches and see what comes out!

Thanks I appreciate you taking the time to check. If any other dateless ACD or ATS plates appear whilst you're searching do let me know please.

 

[markjay]

 

[markjay]

 

[Oldbarrack]

Thanks I appreciate you taking the time to check. If any other dateless ACD or ATS plates appear whilst you're searching do let me know please.

Do you mind more reversals on ACD - 3ACD and 9ACD are both potential possibles.

I'm not very hopeful about any ATS now or in future, at least until I've spoken with someone who is just sitting on a V5 (for which there is a workaround).

 

[Red C220]

Do you mind more reversals on ACD - 3ACD and 9ACD are both potential possibles.

I'm not very hopeful about any ATS now or in future, at least until I've spoken with someone who is just sitting on a V5 (for which there is a workaround).

They would be good.

 

[Mozzer]

Saw this in Stratford yesterday...

 

[mat8n]

Not to keen if I'm honest! I only do about 20 miles a year on the scooter so it'll do

 

[Oldbarrack]

The DVLA try and weed out any potentially 'offensive' numbers now.

I'm not sure what they did in 2004, as the rules etc keep changing to drive up more revenue on sales, but they may have withheld it.

The rule about the donor car needing tax and MOT is gone, I put MBC 2 on retention yesterday as it has valid SORN - that's all that's required now.