Auction question.

[ToeKnee]

Darrell, have you considered sending an email stating that you would like the van and the auction estimate would be £2500-£2750 and you're happy to pay the higher figure which would cut down their costs? Having it in writing might help?

 

[Darrell]

As discussed, they prefer the arms length nature of an auction. No come back for them. (And remember that they lose both seller's and effectively buyer's commission)
"If you asked nicely" would they tell you where and when it's going to be sold?

I’ve no issues with an ‘arms length’ sale provided I can get it for a decent price. In fact I’d welcome a sale like that if it means I don’t have to deal with them for any longer than I have to.

 

[Darrell]

Darrell, have you considered sending an email stating that you would like the van and the auction estimate would be £2500-£2750 and you're happy to pay the higher figure which would cut down their costs? Having it in writing might help?

That’s a good idea tbh.
The sales team will be phoning me on Monday so I’ll take it from there.

I think I’m being sensible and up-front to them with my negotiations. The big problem and it’s been highlighted here is that Lex have their system and that system works for them even though it may not be the best.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

The woman from Lex asked me the same question.
She said it’ll go to a BCA auction so why don’t I pop along and make a bid.
I told her that BCA Auctions are for Trade Account Holders only. She asked me what this meant.

Like I said in an earlier post, I think I’m dealing with a retard.

Every day's a school day.

Didn't realise that BCA is now trade only. (I double checked) Presumably legal protections on sale to the public.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

That’s a good idea tbh.
The sales team will be phoning me on Monday so I’ll take it from there.

Make it clear that the seller's commission they'd be paying BCA would be x%.

They might negotiate around it, but worth making that clear initially

 

[Darrell]

Make it clear that the seller's commission they'd be paying BCA would be x%.

They might negotiate around it, but worth making that clear initially

The MOT has also expired.

 

[Will]

For £3k it would probably be worth asking someone with an account for a favour or even registering yourself?

Not trying to be awkward about it but if those figures you mentioned were correct that would be a huge amount of saving.

Even at £2k surely it’s worth your time and a day off work or whatever.

 

[ChipChop]

The MOT has also expired.

Some auction companies will not allow buyers to drive MOT less vehicles off their sites, meaning you may also have to factor in the cost of getting the vehicle transported back home. Which is not cheap, especially for commercials.

 

[Will]

OP could always take the van for an MOT before it goes if he really wanted.

 

[Darrell]

Some auction companies will not allow buyers to drive MOT less vehicles off their sites, meaning you may also have to factor in the cost of getting the vehicle transported back home. Which is not cheap, especially for commercials.

I’ll ask the sales team in my phone call on Monday and if this is the case it’ll help with my negotiating.

 

[Darrell]

OP could always take the van for an MOT before it goes if he really wanted.

Insurance ran out 3 weeks ago. And why would I spend money on a van that’s not mine?

 

[Will]

Insure it for a day, or ask a garage to pick it up.

Seems like an exceptionally complicated situation for an old van all round though!

Must be a really good van or something

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Some auction companies will not allow buyers to drive MOT less vehicles off their sites, meaning you may also have to factor in the cost of getting the vehicle transported back home. Which is not cheap, especially for commercials.

Even if you've booked the van in for an MoT somewhere?

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Insurance ran out 3 weeks ago. And why would I spend money on a van that’s not mine?

You're building a strong case here...

 

[ChipChop]

Even if you've booked the van in for an MoT somewhere?

Covering themselves i suppose if a buyer is prosecuted for driving an unsafe vehicle to a pre arranged MOT test.

 

[Will]

All sounds a bit over complicated to me.

I think in general lease companies prefer not to deal with these sorts of enquiries, not saying OP is but they must get loads of time wasters/chancers etc and no doubt people moaning about stuff too.

Auction route is the easy option, zero comeback and hassle free.

I’m a bit suspect of those prices if I’m honest, but private buyers can’t expect to purchase vehicles at trade prices anyway.

But if OP really, really wants this specific van then put the effort in and play the game. If you can’t get it for what you want from the lease company find where it’s going and get someone to bid on it for you.

For a £3k saving it would be worth the effort.

An MOT is £40? If it fails you know what’s wrong with it (and maybe wouldn’t buy it if so or it will sell for less at auction)

Just a thought

 

[BTB 500]

Used petrol vans are much in demand around London

Just as an aside most of these would be pretty old by now as petrol was generally dropped as an option for vans in the early 2000s when everyone was going mad for diesel. There was a VW Transporter T6 with the EU6 2.0 TFSi petrol engine, but this was only sold for a very short period in the UK (2019 IIRC) so is very rare.

 

[Darrell]

All sounds a bit over complicated to me.

I think in general lease companies prefer not to deal with these sorts of enquiries, not saying OP is but they must get loads of time wasters/chancers etc and no doubt people moaning about stuff too.

Auction route is the easy option, zero comeback and hassle free.

I’m a bit suspect of those prices if I’m honest, but private buyers can’t expect to purchase vehicles at trade prices anyway.

But if OP really, really wants this specific van then put the effort in and play the game. If you can’t get it for what you want from the lease company find where it’s going and get someone to bid on it for you.

For a £3k saving it would be worth the effort.

An MOT is £40? If it fails you know what’s wrong with it (and maybe wouldn’t buy it if so or it will sell for less at auction)

Just a thought

To a degree I can see the lease company’s point but from my end it’s simple in fact it’s so far from being complicated it’s getting embarrassing. I will also play the game and I can play games very well.

It’s the most simple piece of business ever: Give me a price that you would expect from an auction and you’ll have a payment by the end of the day. How simple is that??

I can’t get anyone to bid for me at auction because I don’t know any bona fide motor traders.

I can’t get it to an MOT because it’s not insured anymore.

 

[Darrell]

Just as an aside most of these would be pretty old by now as petrol was generally dropped as an option for vans in the early 2000s when everyone was going mad for diesel. There was a VW Transporter T6 with the EU6 2.0 TFSi petrol engine, but this was only sold for a very short period in the UK (2019 IIRC) so is very rare.

There are some Citroen Nemo vans that are petrol.

2013 13 CITROEN NEMO 1.4i X ** ULEZ COMPLIANT ** PETROL ENGINE VAN | eBay

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Or even this.

2000 Suzuki Carry Van PANEL VAN Petrol Manual | eBay

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[BTB 500]

There are some Citroen Nemo vans that are petrol.

2013 13 CITROEN NEMO 1.4i X ** ULEZ COMPLIANT ** PETROL ENGINE VAN | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 2013 13 CITROEN NEMO 1.4i X ** ULEZ COMPLIANT ** PETROL ENGINE VAN at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.

www.ebay.co.uk

Or even this.

2000 Suzuki Carry Van PANEL VAN Petrol Manual | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 2000 Suzuki Carry Van PANEL VAN Petrol Manual at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.

www.ebay.co.uk

Ah I wasn't thinking about the smaller vans - there may be more choice with those.

Up to about 2004 petrol was readily available from most manufacturers ... certainly VW (T4 Transporter), MB (W638 Vito) and Toyota (Hiace). None of their successors had petrol options in the UK though.