Big Discounts on New Mercedes

[C240Sport97]

which dealer is doing such a deal?

I heard yesterday of discounts of up to £18,000 on SL500s.

There is obviously a facelifted one coming soon and to Hell with the residual values for the poor punters that paid list price a while ago.

 

[Rory]

thats a good discount at that, as an idea, a c class saloon, C200CDi avantgard se auto is available with over 30% off retail!!!

I guess there's always going to be a compromise on the best deals - most people would want a C220, although I'm sure there's very little real-world difference, and it's probably an odd colour with none of the 'essential' options (or it'll be stupidly over-equipped).

 

[Tilly]

no dont get me wrong, there are similar deals on the 220's out there amongst others that still having amazing discounts that add up to a similar total savings, but in pounds as opposed to % as obviously the OTR on the 220's is dearer in the first place so 30% would constitute a much larger discount than 30% on a 200 model, it was just an example of whats possible to be honest

 

[Flash]

The stock W203s are of a high spec with all the toys and going cheap... Stealer I spoke to yesterday surprisenly rang me up today and offered me C320 (Sports Pack) with a £7G saving if i signe dup today - thats what he claimed (I dont know what the official OTR price should have been...)

 

[gary350]

There is a new (old shape) at PW Millers in Barry Vale of Glamorgan fully loaded at £41K silver/black.
Saw the new S on Sunday there is one at SG Bridgend (black) its around the back arrived on Friday.

gary

 

[Dieselman]

the big deals to be had were on diesels where savings were closer to 7/8 grand but i was insitant on a petrol. !

The big discounts are to shift the stock of Euro III complient diesels which can't be sold in 2006.
Do these rates of discount apply to the Euro IV complient engines?

 

[Robbo]

DM,

If you look at the drive the deal website, most of the cars had 18-20% discount, including the EU4 models. The non EU4 models werent on the list so I dont know what they were going for. We got just over 20% discount on a new A170 (petrol engine)

 

[Tilly]

As far as I'm aware, the euro III complient cars can still be sold in 2006 but they're susceptible to higher tax charges, the difference is the emmission levels of the engines. And no as far as the deal was concerned. It was any car registered before the end of the year meaning even cars being built as late as decade 2 of November (meaning cars starting production between the 10th and 20th of november) were eligible for the deal as they just make it into the country in time to be registered and these won't be euro III models. As for the A170, realistically the maximum you should be able to get is about 3500 off list or there abouts (based on a standard car with no optional extras) so at 20% you've done well

 

[Rory]

As far as I'm aware, the euro III complient cars can still be sold in 2006 but they're susceptible to higher tax charges, the difference is the emmission levels of the engines.

I'm pretty sure that's wrong - from Jan 2006 EU III diesels can no longer be registered.
The tax charge thing is that the 3% discount for EU IV (which was designed to offset the extra tax that a company car driver would have to pay on an EU IV car, because they're usually more expensive) is being allowed to carry on until April, simply to avoid a change in the middle of a tax year.

 

[Robbo]

E Class discounts anyone?

I've just had another look at the drivethedeal.com website that we used to buy our A Class in December to see what thay are offering now. The good A class deals have gone, but I saw that there are some big discounts on E classes for Q1 2006.

How about an E320CDI Avantgarde auto saloon for £30679? Thats a discount of £5386. E classes must be slow sellers at the moment!

 

[Flash]

How about an E320CDI Avantgarde auto saloon for £30679? Thats a discount of £5386. E classes must be slow sellers at the moment!

There are some excellents deals/saving on the W211... (BMW 5 Series has hit it hard...)

Residual values for W203s have been hit hard as well on used ones as Stealers have alot of new unregistered stock and are offering big discounts on them too. The Audi A4 and BMW 3 Series (new shapes) have really hit the W203 as well hence why Stealers are doing them cheap now.

There are some cracking deals on W220s (current shape S Class) too as the the new shape (absolute stunning car from the pics) is being offically launched in March in the UK...

 

[hash]

i can echo the e class deals, i have just priced a new e280 avantgarde auto saloon, comes in at 38k against a new of 44k.

this was at drive the deal................not sure if i should wait for the facelift or not?

cheers

kenny

 

[glojo]

The problem with these deals is the after sales service. You buy the car from a dealer up country, then you go to your local dealership and expect the same service as they give to there own customers?

I suppose this is a consideration we should take into account when members complain about poor service? Did they buy the car from new at the dealership they use for servicing.

Please understand I realise that dealerships charge top dollar and those that fit into this category will scream that they should not be treated differently? I am merely suggesting that when we look at a 'bargain' we go into it with our eyes wide open.

John

 

[Flash]

The problem with these deals is the after sales service. You buy the car from a dealer up country, then you go to your local dealership and expect the same service as they give to there own customers?

I suppose this is a consideration we should take into account when members complain about poor service? Did they buy the car from new at the dealership they use for servicing.

Please understand I realise that dealerships charge top dollar and those that fit into this category will scream that they should not be treated differently? I am merely suggesting that when we look at a 'bargain' we go into it with our eyes wide open.

John

It should not make any difference to where the car was purchased from as the Stealer is not doing the customer a "special" favour as the customer would still be paying the "MB rates" and thats where the Stealers make their money from. There is no excuse for poor service from any Stealership... After sale servicing is more "profitable" than the actual sale of the car. Profit margins on the sale of vehicles at Stealerships have now been reduced under the DC shake up...

 

[Flash]

i can echo the e class deals, i have just priced a new e280 avantgarde auto saloon, comes in at 38k against a new of 44k.

this was at drive the deal................not sure if i should wait for the facelift or not?

cheers

kenny

The new BMW 5 Series has "killed" the W211...

The trend is also going to follow for the current W203 (Already ha sstratedd to do so...)... BMW 3 Series is doing very well followed by Audi A4 in comparison to W203 sales...

 

[fuzzer]

The problem with these deals is the after sales service. You buy the car from a dealer up country, then you go to your local dealership and expect the same service as they give to there own customers?

I suppose this is a consideration we should take into account when members complain about poor service? Did they buy the car from new at the dealership they use for servicing.

Please understand I realise that dealerships charge top dollar and those that fit into this category will scream that they should not be treated differently? I am merely suggesting that when we look at a 'bargain' we go into it with our eyes wide open.

John

Thats dealer speak .. when a dealer isnt willing to give up any wedge , they start hitting out with this nonsense.

Buy it where its cheap , get it serviced where its cheap , anythng else is insane!!

 

[Flash]

Thats dealer speak .. when a dealer isnt willing to give up any wedge , they start hitting out with this nonsense.

Buy it where its cheap , get it serviced where its cheap , anythng else is insane!!

I absolutely agree with you...

Some Stealers dont even want to do warranty jobs and push warranty job customers to back of the queue because DC pay them a "reduced" rate of labour...

 

[Rory]

The above few posts would work if dealers did what is more common in the US, where you have a single point of contact, a kind of 'relationship manager' at the dealer. So you buy the car off that person, and then any queries, servicing, warranty work etc, is all dealt with through that person. The idea is that you buy your next car of them, and I gather that a lot of sales in the US are made on personal recommendation.

I guess the main problem with this scenario (also relevant to expecting extra support when using the same dealer for sales and service in the UK) is that the salespeople change jobs pretty frequently anyway.

 

[fuzzer]

The above few posts would work if dealers did what is more common in the US, where you have a single point of contact, a kind of 'relationship manager' at the dealer. So you buy the car off that person, and then any queries, servicing, warranty work etc, is all dealt with through that person. The idea is that you buy your next car of them, and I gather that a lot of sales in the US are made on personal recommendation.

I guess the main problem with this scenario (also relevant to expecting extra support when using the same dealer for sales and service in the UK) is that the salespeople change jobs pretty frequently anyway.

funny you should say that .. thats exactly how my bmw dealer works , deal with the salesman , collects the car , drops a car off for us etc

perfect

 

[glojo]

I can understand the objections especially when it comes from folks looking for bargains and then complaining when they don't get blue ribbon treatment. I wonder what a publican would think if I bought my beer from the supermarket and then demanded to use all the facilities at the pub?

My dealer supplies a top rate service, I got an excellent price for my trade in, and a reasonable discount off the new vehicle. I could have saved £2000 by buying 'up country' but then I would have to sell my old vehicle and that would not have been easy. Local garages offered insulting money, the best price was £4000 LESS than the dealer.

Having read numerous threads on customer\dealership relationships there is definitely a pattern emerging.

If you were the dealer, would you offer a total stranger a free courtesy car and tell a respected customer they would have to go without??? Salespersons have to guess who are joy riders and who are customers. That cannot be easy, and I'm sure I would get it wrong more that I got it right.

Giving out a demonstrator to someone that merely wants to examine the car and buy else where is perhaps a waste of time for that individual member of staff and of course it deprives a legitimate customer of the oppurtunity?

I am playing devils advocate here and expect some folks to disagree.

John