Billy's W124 Coupe Project

[mazza]

I do think however taking into account 50-60kg of extra engine weight and heavy leccy seats our compressed length would need to be looked into closely and considered to be an important factor- as mentioned tryingto keep the spring travel similar to what it is now. I like to feel the the road if that makes sense?!

Hi Chap

I was waiting for a few calls and got bored so decided to do some maths..live life on the edge...he he!!

this is your corner weight data, your total is 3165LBS

I believe the Kerb weight for a 320ce is approx 3285LBS (perhaps a 320ce owner could confirm this)

difference of 120LBS or 54.5Kgs

Do you remember if we took photos of your old springs VS test springs??

Haven't checked my external hardrive yet...but I'm pretty sure its full of filth..lol

laters
mazza

 

[BillyW124]

Hi Chap

I was waiting for a few calls and got bored so decided to do some maths..live life on the edge...he he!!

this is your corner weight data, your total is 3165LBS

I believe the Kerb weight for a 320ce is approx 3285LBS (perhaps a 320ce owner could confirm this)

difference of 120LBS or 54.5Kgs

Do you remember if we took photos of your old springs VS test springs??

Haven't checked my external hardrive yet...but I'm pretty sure its full of filth..lol

laters
mazza

Top Man Maz, i'm glad you kept this, I was wondering if you gave it me or not last time i was around. I was refering to this in my last post of having this sort of data handy to help us out.

So, 54kg's is not a lot of difference But how do we think the springs we have at the moment will fair with this + extra weight of say a passenger add another 70-80kg on top...?

I think we did take a photo but i can take another one if you want to see it I've got it in the garage...

 

[Sbryantgb]

Merc did away with that pump etc in later 320 coupe.

My late 1995 coupe does not have that fitted, so less complexity.

Yes found that out today when I had the e320c decatted and custom exhaust fitted.

 

[Sbryantgb]

Yep that's the plan. Once the car is done, taking into account the extra weight of all the options like the leccy seats etc we can then go ahead and get the springs done. From the data collected previously it shoudn't be too far off the basic info we have to work with.

I'd like to be in keeping with the similar spring rate and travel to the ones we're trying at the moment.

If i remember correctly the spring rate of the ones i have is around 7.9kg/mm. Compare this to the rate of a stock spring of 5kg/mm that's quite a bit of extra capable load bearing that these can handle! I'm impressed with them considering they are only 300mm in free length Vs. 3.70 stock. Can't remember the compressed length though

I do think however taking into account 50-60kg of extra engine weight and heavy leccy seats our compressed length would need to be looked into closely and considered to be an important factor- as mentioned tryingto keep the spring travel similar to what it is now. I like to feel the the road if that makes sense?!

Wouldn't powered seats you are going to fit add another 40/50 pounds to the curb weight? Those things are heavy

 

[BillyW124]

Yes found that out today when I had the e320c decatted and custom exhaust fitted.

so.... do you like the de cat and exhaust?

Wouldn't powered seats you are going to fit add another 40/50 pounds to the curb weight? Those things are heavy

Yes, they weigh a lot.

The good thing is we have current weight data and when the car is finished we'll have after data, We'll then really understand the differences and have a set of springs made that match the car's weight and maintain the car's stance.

Buying a set of springs that mentions it 'lowers 40 -45mm' is too vague. Need fact

 

[Deleted member 26392]

Picturez of newly fiited exhaust?

 

[Sbryantgb]

so.... do you like the de cat and exhaust?


Yes, they weigh a lot.

The good thing is we have current weight data and when the car is finished we'll have after data, We'll then really understand the differences and have made a set of springs that match the car's weight.

Buying a set of springs that mentions it 'lowers 40 -45mm' is too vague. need fact

oh yes, its going back for a remap and air filters next.

only pic I have it was to dark by the time they finished.

I have a set of powered design seats to install this summer.

 

[bh13coupe]

Blimey!! Be prepared to spend a lot more on fuel, but the perfomance is worth it.
watching with interest mate, I hope the blind is still going strong. If you are coming to bournemouth when its finish drop me a PM. I would love to see the finished article in person..

 

[Deleted member 26392]

Ohhhh, that back box looks good.

Whats the spec, where did you get it and are you pleased?

Scott

 

[krimat2005]

diff ratios E220 coupe 3.07 (4 auto), and E320 coupe 3.06 (4 auto) or 3,69 (5 auto), but gearboxes are diffrent beetwen the two. are you going to use 320 box?

 

[BillyW124]

Blimey!! Be prepared to spend a lot more on fuel, but the perfomance is worth it.
watching with interest mate, I hope the blind is still going strong. If you are coming to bournemouth when its finish drop me a PM. I would love to see the finished article in person..

Good to see you back on mate,

Blind is going strong! I use it a lot for night time driving (which leaves the dipping RVM obselete)!

During the summer it served its purpose well used for when the car was parked up. Come the afternoon sun it beams straight into the rear screen so was content that the rear burl wood console wasn't getting toasted! Will defo come down to Bournemouth when its done.

As for the fuel, the 124 isn't a daily mode of transport, I have BoJo to thank for that. Good old London Underground! The fuel isn't my worry - but the price hike for travel is!

 

[mazza]

Evening!!

Matching the weight is easy!!

18"'s + Agressive stance on the other hand.....that's where data is paramount! Nice stance Billy...he he!

mazza

 

[BillyW124]

diff ratios E220 coupe 3.07 (4 auto), and E320 coupe 3.06 (4 auto) or 3,69 (5 auto), but gearboxes are diffrent beetwen the two. are you going to use 320 box?

Yes the 320 gear box will be used..

 

[BillyW124]

^ its a 4 speed also.

 

[BillyW124]

Parts

Been busy tonight sorting all the bits out.

A fair bit of stuff!

Parts Inventory:

Part sets:

1. Cylinder head gasket set
2. Head gasket set
3. Oil Sump gasket set
4. Valve stem seal set

Parts:

1. Coil packs x3
2. HT leads, (Lead, Coil pack ends x3, Spark plug suppressor x3, rubber boots x3)
3. Gear box sump gasket
4. Timing Chain
5. Timing chain Rails (left, right and upper)
6. Timing chain tensioner
7. Timing chain lock link
8. Water Pump
9. Gear box mount
10. Engine Mounts x2
11. Prop shaft coupling front
12. Prop shaft coupling rear
13. Thermostat
14. Thermostat housing
15. Belt damper
16. Oil pressure sender unit
17. Knock Sensor
18. Crank position sensor
19. Throttle cable
20. Lambda sensor
21. Head bolts x14
22. Exhaust manifold studs x30
23. Exhaust manifold bolts x23
24. Exhaust down pipe studs x4
25. Intake manifold bolts x9
26. Intake manifold gasket x1

Service Fluids:

1. Castrol 10w 40
2. MB coolant
3. MB power steering fluid
4. Castrol Dot 3 brake fluid
5. Carlube Dexron III transmission fluid
6. MB Winter Fit screen wash

Service Parts:

1. Front Disks
2. Rear Disks
3. Spark plugs x6
4. Front brake pads
5. Rear brake pads
6. Front pad wear sensors x 4
7. Air filter
8. Power steering filter
9. Gear box filter
10. Oil filter

Nothing like having a good proper overhaul Billy style. Once its going in the lump aint comming back out again thats for sure!

 

[BillyW124]

More bits...

As part of the overall engine swap i have some goodies for the 124 to look forward too.

Sportline Steering Box:

Pair of stainless steel manifolds ditching the cast iron ones. My polishing is a bit iffy!

Headlight wash wipe system being fitted, somthing a bit different is the heated washer bottle.

Been busy tonight cleaning up the bottle and the coil element. Scrubbed up quite well!

This rear Sebring box has been loafing around in the back garage for some time now and its time to hear this thing! Will pay a good compliment to the de-cat.

Finally get to install the cruise control on the 124, this is another thing that's been in the wait for ages!

 

[WDB124066]

God bless you boy - God bless!!

 

[BillyW124]

Just a note regarding the sportline steering box, its a refurbished unit, new seals, gaskets and lubrication.

 

[BillyW124]

God bless you boy - God bless!!

I think i have been.... I saw the light when i opted NOT to buy six new injectors!

 

[mattc]

Billy you have a clinical illness!:bannana: