JoeyM88
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Must be from the same era his is prefacelift mine is too and same engine outputTodd1983 said:
My bad thought you wheretalking to me untilli read on
My bad thought you wheretalking to me untilli read on
Yep all ours. My role in MSL.
jacksona
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What can you do with a CLS 350 CDI Grand Edition with the Brabus D6 chip? 272bhp as standard...
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streethawk
MB Enthusiast
What about E320CDI as mine was done at msl August time and sure it was through another tuner! Has it change to in house now? If so would it now be a better map? Just curious.
streethawk
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Hold on ive just twigged with the user name you have BFT doh! You did do mine v6 by the way. What figure would it have as I didn't have time for rolling road but acid said around 275bhp on performance map but didn't seem too sure.
For some reason I thought that you guys worked with eurocharged on this, can't remember why I thought that.
Long time since it was done? Was it worthwhile? Noticeable difference? Just out of interest.
streethawk
MB Enthusiast
Oh yes well worth it. Goes like scolded cat and just keeps pulling. The torque is what's great and always makes me smile when I get to drive it as I walk to work so weekends is when she gets used. I'd say if you've got a e320cdi sport get it done
So have you written and developed your own in house software yourself hence you have not purchased the software program from a third party for writtting the actual remaps?
So we all understand the software development:
1) The software is downloaded from the Bosch EDC17C10 ecu using CMDFlash on the bench in Tricore mode.
2) This then dumps all the data into a raw file
3) This raw file is then loaded into fully licensed WinOLS software which is a useful tool which aids in detecting the maps and filing them into some sort of order form the hexdump. We can apply factors/offsets and sizes etc. to the maps to turn the hexdump into something meaningful. If it is a new ECU then maps can be found using a DAMOS/A2L file which is a file that identifies maps as used by Mercedes in development.
4) The maps are then altered to what we believe based on development to adjust torque limiters/fuelling/boost/limiters etc. and then WinOLS exports to a raw file.
5) The raw file is uploaded to the ECU with CMDFlash to the car and started.
6) The car is dyno'd and logged.
7) If required we then repeat steps 4 to 6 until we are happy with it.
In a nutshell. WinOLS is used to 99% of all tuners. It isn't cheap but why re-write the wheel. I would rather buy the license, use CMD to extract the files and write to the car and spend the time on development.
Hope that helps.
Thank you for confirming and clarifying but my interpretation of in house development is writing and using your own software. Brabus and MKB have developed their own software hence i am aware that a lot of tuners use third party software under iicense.
streethawk
MB Enthusiast
Ummm interesting read. Would I be better going back to msl for a dyno then to make sure she's making what we think and at its best performance for said map? Only didn't have the dyno there and then as I was running out of time because I'd had transmission fluid done also and something went wrong with the map upload to car as it was sat there for nearly one hour 45mins because upload stalled and had to be restarted and battery boosted because the ignition had been on so long. I am just interested what she's got .
For peace of mind I would go back and get the dyno done and check that the map has been set to optimal values for your actual vehicle which is checked on the rolling road.
Was your map done via the OBD port or was the ECU removed on the W211?
streethawk
MB Enthusiast
OBD port. It's a facelift e320cdi sport. It's definitely got plenty of power and I wanted it in a safe state as not to blow it up in the future as it were ha. Just interested in what power she has because I am hoping around the 275 mark as I was told it would be around there. I know Celtic state 290 on this model so 275 should be nice and safe limits I'd of thought.
Would definitely be interesting what it's producing on the rolling road... I'm yet to see a Celtic tune which has actually been dyno'd.
So far the only ones who seem to dyno the car are MSL & Rebellion, haven't seen a dyno of a GAD or Celtic tune...
KeithJG
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I understand your point fully Alex.....i don`t know of anyone with a Celtic map that has had a dyno done even myself....lol
But to be fair MSL are only in Birmingham and Celtic are a much bigger concern and have agents throughout the country so that is the way they work their business. Not many garages have dyno`s.
Celtic must use a dyno to perfect all their maps otherwise they would not be so successful......when i had mine done the mapper said i can have it put back to std. after a couple of weeks if your not satisfied but he said i have not done that at all yet as all are very pleased with the results.
I use acceleration figures for comparison on different models which manufacturers compile. It is a fairly good guide to the bhp although no way accurate. But to accelerate a vehicle to 60mph weighing so many kilos is not a bad guide.
Nevertheless i would still like mine dynoed just to see but then all dyno`s are different aren`t they?.....they say also it is only as good as the user?
I am very pleased with my Stage 1 Celtic map and the price it cost just 1.5 hrs waiting and +66bhp and +87 lb/ft together with over 45mpg
But to be fair MSL are only in Birmingham and Celtic are a much bigger concern and have agents throughout the country so that is the way they work their business. Not many garages have dyno`s.
Celtic must use a dyno to perfect all their maps otherwise they would not be so successful......when i had mine done the mapper said i can have it put back to std. after a couple of weeks if your not satisfied but he said i have not done that at all yet as all are very pleased with the results.
I use acceleration figures for comparison on different models which manufacturers compile. It is a fairly good guide to the bhp although no way accurate. But to accelerate a vehicle to 60mph weighing so many kilos is not a bad guide.
Nevertheless i would still like mine dynoed just to see but then all dyno`s are different aren`t they?.....they say also it is only as good as the user?
I am very pleased with my Stage 1 Celtic map and the price it cost just 1.5 hrs waiting and +66bhp and +87 lb/ft together with over 45mpg
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Not disputing Celtic's or anyone elses ability, jus a pure 'out of interest' point really. I thought that they'd all require rolling road development to write the initial map which then becomes generic, but then this should mean that they'd have a power curve illustration, couldn't really find that either.
But it is very good to hear happy reviews, as long as the positive change is present, safe & in accordance to the quoted figures, theres nothing against the companies.
Interesting to see how s70rmp will find the map. This is turning into a cool thread
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But it is very good to hear happy reviews, as long as the positive change is present, safe & in accordance to the quoted figures, theres nothing against the companies.
Interesting to see how s70rmp will find the map. This is turning into a cool thread
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