To be honest yes I like it more on the exciting side of things. If it's still going to be tail happy but more controllable then I'll put a diff in it. But if it's going to numb the car off a bit until you actually want to break the back end away then I'll probably just leave it be
To be honest yes I like it more on the exciting side of things. If it's still going to be tail happy but more controllable then I'll put a diff in it. But if it's going to numb the car off a bit until you actually want to break the back end away then I'll probably just leave it be
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I think it'll be both, ie youll have move control up to the point it breaks grip and then more control once traction is broken. Hence the comments of more control. It won't be numb just you'll feel more of what of what is going on
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Surly more controllable is more fun.
If you want to go smoking tyres round roundabouts then just switch the traction control off and look like a tail.
However if you want to be able to come out of the apex of a corner or come off a round about and be able to get grip and leave whatever was behind you for dead then get an LSD....if you really want to make the car handle like a dream then also fit the KWDDC suspension.....
Not necessarily. The merc has a character all of its own. I think it's the reason that amg didn't offer the LSD as a standard item. I had a focus Rs before this and on a twisty section of road I know for a fact it would leave the merc for dead. But it didn't have that ' be careful or I'm going to bite you' feeling. I don't turn my esp off, I don't really see the point. In sport/manual I can make the car exit a roundabout exactly how I want it to.
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Think you've answered your own question bud. You like the fact olthat it could snap out and any point, so leave it as is and enjoy.
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This. It transforms the car, particularly in the wet.
Its ridiculous that it wasn't fitted as standard until the latest model.
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^ This.
If you want better traction and/or better performance against a watch then fit an LSD. If you want to hoon about leave it as it is.
Personally, I got fed up with the TC light illuminating the dash a bit too often in my E63 and the lack of drive out of corners so fitted a Quaife - but each to their own.
100% agreed, all that power and no LSD is just a waste, can't imagine how poor the traction must be.
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It's okay actually.
It's got plenty of traction? I don't know where this myth has come from that they're uncontrollable? I put it in sport/manual if I want to play and I can still hang the **** out of it coming off roundabouts damp or dry? That's the only reason I'm reluctant to fit an LSD as the car is so exciting to drive. What do you drive?
I'm talking about launch traction rather the control of the car on the move. I drive a diesel, which only at a fraction of the power of a c63 still manages to spin the tyres very often and is tail happy. I can only imagine trying to plant all of the c63 power to the ground is going to be struggle without the wheels spinning. LSD or AWD are the only two solutions that I can think off for planting down the power and making full use of its potential.
Even a standard e46 M3 comes with LSD, just seems as MB is just cutting costs on something that should have been included as standard.
But hey, I don't drive a c63, what would I know?
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I've driven two C63's on a track. My current has the AMG LSD but the other didn't. It was dry both times and the only time I noticed a difference was on a couple of exits where my current car would start pulling straight, but the non-LSD car would sometimes want to slide a little or in Sport Mode, flash the TC light and hold back power. There wasn't really enough of a difference for me to say you need one on the road and dare I say you'd never really need it as the eLSD does a fine job while you're tooling around, but for the track, definitely to make the most of it. That said, the C63 really needs more work than an LSD to become really competitive on a track.
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I'm talking about launch traction rather the control of the car on the move. I drive a diesel, which only at a fraction of the power of a c63 still manages to spin the tyres very often and is tail happy. I can only imagine trying to plant all of the c63 power to the ground is going to be struggle without the wheels spinning. LSD or AWD are the only two solutions that I can think off for planting down the power and making full use of its potential.
Even a standard e46 M3 comes with LSD, just seems as MB is just cutting costs on something that should have been included as standard.
But hey, I don't drive a c63, what would I know?
Most performance cars don't need stomping on the throttle to get them going. Doing it gradually is all it takes. I can stand on the gas pedal of my Smart and 4 hours later it has enough power to pull out of a junction. Takes very little effort and time to get my supercharged Range Rover to do the same.
I understand, but if you do want to use all or most of that power whenever and however, poor traction would let it down.
I'm not saying that the car is slow without the LSD, but it just doesn't make sense why anyone would not want to fully utilise the power of a performance car.
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And there is the problem. I can go from 0- licence losing speed in a couple of seconds in a built up area. Only on a track can you fully utilise the performance of these V8 AMG's. An LSD simply puts the power down in a controlled manner and, with or without one, you really cannot use anywhere near full power on the roads in the UK.
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Some of us have both open and limited split differentials in one...
I'm talking about launch traction rather the control of the car on the move. I drive a diesel, which only at a fraction of the power of a c63 still manages to spin the tyres very often and is tail happy. I can only imagine trying to plant all of the c63 power to the ground is going to be struggle without the wheels spinning. LSD or AWD are the only two solutions that I can think off for planting down the power and making full use of its potential.
Even a standard e46 M3 comes with LSD, just seems as MB is just cutting costs on something that should have been included as standard.
But hey, I don't drive a c63, what would I know?
Cutting costs?? Are you for real? It's a 60k car not a a Nissan micra. Go and drive one.
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Neil you seem to have convinced yourself you don't need one....and it sounds like you don't
However....real world speaking now
Having "dragged" my car against Acids ( his with roughly 50bhp more than mine due to a bigger supercharger)....mine was quicker not only off the mark but through the gears.....due to better traction
The lad diff fitted by merc as a optional extra is still not as good as a Quaife or Wavetrac diff
In the wet or in snow you get much more traction...so it's not only better but safer
As you can imagine I have thrown some mega money at modifying mine.....and the Quaife diff I would honestly say is one that made the most difference in how the car felt.... Just better and more planted.
For 1500 quid get it done and if you don't like it take it out and put the stock one back in.....if you have not tried it you can't comment on it....just my opinion
However....real world speaking now
Having "dragged" my car against Acids ( his with roughly 50bhp more than mine due to a bigger supercharger)....mine was quicker not only off the mark but through the gears.....due to better traction
The lad diff fitted by merc as a optional extra is still not as good as a Quaife or Wavetrac diff
In the wet or in snow you get much more traction...so it's not only better but safer
As you can imagine I have thrown some mega money at modifying mine.....and the Quaife diff I would honestly say is one that made the most difference in how the car felt.... Just better and more planted.
For 1500 quid get it done and if you don't like it take it out and put the stock one back in.....if you have not tried it you can't comment on it....just my opinion
