C63AMG Help needed

[glojo]

Nah, he needs to take it back up to Scotland and drive it on some propah roads....

lol

The roads down here are just not suitable

We will have to have a sweep on how long it will take before our little Scumbag gets 'pulled'by the local constabulary whilst driving this wingless rocket.

I see that battleship grey has now polled over the magic 50%

I do hope he paints F47 on either side and the stern

 

[scumbag]

Nah, he needs to take it back up to Scotland and drive it on some propah roads....

it will get up there at some point.

 

[scumbag]

A simple summary is that a vehicle with a well controlled and modulated system of limiting slip on the drive axle(s) will always provide more ultimate traction than an open diff. system, whatever the electronics.

I think this is the point where I am coming from. We are talking about the extreme end of the traction area. If I go for the LSD so that I can get more power down in less than perfect conditions, or if I take on track days, then I would also ensure I need the braking capability too. So that means the PP as well. The argument for having one without the other is fundamentally flawed.

I have not purchased this car to attend track days, nor do I feel it needs to provide ultimate performance. We really are talking percentiles here and I have not seen justification for this item.

Resale value...........That is not considered in this purchase. It will be worth whatever its worth, whenever I get round to offloading it.

It will be looked after and will be very low mileage. It also won't have any track day frippery with which to scare off some buyers who want a proper car which has not be thrashed to within an inch of its existance.

If the weather is anything other than good, this car will be used in the sensible manner that any other car is. I can drive in normal ways in less than ideal conditions.

I could have bought a number of cars around the price bracket, but the usefullness of the loadbay, the lure of the V8 and fact that most traffic light races will been beaten into the ground without me having even to move, coupled with the fact Mercedes have at last raised the engeering back to the levels it used to have mean that this car is a compromise in some terms but appears to tick all my boxes. And its not a satan fuelled tractor engined version.

If I want ultimate performance, then I should buy a proper sports car.

So thats LSD's put to bed. Thanks for all the comments and the reasoning and some of the decent and interesting posts on it, but its not sold itself.


The colour does appear to be Grey. (And in fairness to Andy, if I see a red one in the flesh before I have to nail the order, you never know! Red is my default choice of colour for a car)


I notice not many have expressed an interest in going for a "spin" in it.

 

[scumbag]

We will have to have a sweep on how long it will take before our little Scumbag gets 'pulled'by the local constabulary whilst driving this wingless rocket.

I would not put any money on that happening.

The SLK tore about the place to the tune of a clean driving licence.

Suffice to say, there are times and places, but they are few and far between.

 

[wallingd]

Anyway, white.

 

[wallingd]

Oh, nearly forgot.


Superplus unleaded....84p a ltr

Spend £30 at chequers and you get 10p a ltr off that too.

You might need all the help you can get !

 

[DSLiverpool]

I have not purchased this car to attend track days, nor do I feel it needs to provide ultimate performance.

As such you dont need any performance enhancing kit as the first time you get to "boot it" it will seem so awesome anyway you wont be thinking "hmm shudda got a slipper" unless you track it you wont know you havent got it in your location.

In reality you want the engine and the kudos - you get both with a standard car.

The look good in dark grey BUT if there are any C63 specific colours I would strongly consider that tone as a C sport doesnt look that diff to a C63, on my CLS55 I like that as you see people looking for the side panel script of V8 Kompressor (that and the exhausts are the only diff to std)

Right now the C63 is the only car I would swap the CLS for so good choice

 

[hawk20]

Would you notice the LSD on a C63? In most normal driving situations at sane speeds on the roads, and bearing in mind the huge capabilities of the car anyway, probably not. Using it hard, and on marginal surfaces... sometimes. On a race track, near the car's limits? Definitely. Increased capability of the car's existing stability and safety systems? I don't know the answer to that one without knowing if and how it's integrated with the C63's existing set-up.

For £1.3k on top of what's being spent anyway, and bearing in mind what was posted about future resale... I'd 'ave it

Well I suppose if one is being silly enough to buy a 6 litre car to do 35 mph maximum one might as well compound the stupidity by raiding the toy cupboard as well.

 

[glojo]

As such you dont need any performance enhancing kit as the first time you get to "boot it" it will seem so awesome anyway you wont be thinking "hmm shudda got a slipper" unless you track it you wont know you havent got it in your location.

Our little Scumbag has NO IDEA of what he is in for when he first puts his foot on the loud pedal.

The only half decent car he has ever owned was a hairdresser mobile that took away the last remains of those folecules that protruded from his cranium.

I am so pleased to hear that he will not be exceeding the speed limits as my niece has finally stopped having to attend our local chiropractor and her neck has now stopped looking like it belonged to a giraffe

I can already hear what the first words the police will say when they stop my very good friend

Here they are

 

[scumbag]

Well I suppose if one is being silly enough to buy a 6 litre car to do 35 mph maximum one might as well compound the stupidity by raiding the toy cupboard as well.

so what would you suggest I buy then?

 

[scumbag]

The look good in dark grey BUT if there are any C63 specific colours I would strongly consider that tone as a C sport doesnt look that diff to a C63, on my CLS55 I like that as you see people looking for the side panel script of V8 Kompressor (that and the exhausts are the only diff to std)

They only do standard colours unless you go for the designo options.

To me the car looks enough different to recognised by those who know. (Wider front flanks, bumps on the bonnet, smoked headlamps, rear diffuser and some talipipes)

It has the 6,3AMG on the side. Mind you, I am not really bothered what people looking at it think.

 

[LimitedSlip]

...I fear that the electronics on our Mercedes is better than you are alleging.

Hi Glojo... not at all! The systems on Mercs are impressive, as they are on many vehicles. There are different intents at the basic level between stability control and drive maximization, though their inputs are often interwoven electronically nowadays. A limited slip diff. in its purely physical state in not a stability device.

In that situation your wife experienced: getting started on a skating rink surface is initially helped by an LSD. Once moving, even a slow curve is potential for loss of control. The tiniest bit more drive than is needed in a rear wheel drive car and the back end comes around. What ESP (and the others) will do in a situation like this is to limit the drive to only that needed when the onset of wheelspin or drift is sensed. It effectively provides the workable maximum "safe" amount of drive for the circumstances.

This is broadly akin to launch control set-ups for acceleration. They use only the same physical equipment available to the driver, but control it electronically to provide maximum or near-maximum results with minimum driver input. A good driver can still equal or outperform many of them though. Same with ABS.

 

[LimitedSlip]

I notice not many have expressed an interest in going for a "spin" in it.

With something that quick, on somewhere the size of Guernsey... maybe they'll come for a spin if you offer lifejackets?

 

[DSLiverpool]

It has the 6,3AMG on the side. Mind you, I am not really bothered what people looking at it think.

Are you sure ?

 

[scumbag]

Are you sure ?

yep!

I have managed 40 years so far. I think I can get through the next 100 or so without it affecting me.

I did get rid of a SLK55AMG for a 6.1 300 C SRT8, which was then changed for a Skoda Fabia VRS.........

 

[scumbag]

With something that quick, on somewhere the size of Guernsey... maybe they'll come for a spin if you offer lifejackets?

I should add, I meant when I pop over to the UK now and again. Will try to time if for a GTG at some point. Unless everyone is too scared that is.

I know when I am not wanted.....

 

[andy_k]

I know when I am not wanted.....

but you are still here

 

[scumbag]

but you are still here

<~~sound of door slamming~~>

 

[glojo]

I should add, I meant when I pop over to the UK now and again. Will try to time if for a GTG at some point. Unless everyone is too scared that is.

I know when I am not wanted.....

I hear some of my neighbours have had a whip round for their own stinger.

Make sure you get solid rubber tyres for that flying machine

Note Borat gets everywhere

 

[Meldrew2]

........ 155mph(175 if added PP and therotically over 200) on an island 9miles by 6

Would this have anything to do with you having access to a large runway?