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Because the RFL charging system gives people a clear indication of the Co2 emissions of the vehicle. They can than make an informed decision as to which vehicle to run.
It will encourage people to choose lower emission vehicles as they will pay less RFL.
If the charge goes onto fuel it is less clear as most people can't calculate their fuel economy and a RFL disc would still be required to display legality to drive on the road.

I dont think that RFL plays too much of a part in the running costs of a car. It certainly doesnt scale according to car type, rather it scales partly according to emmisions with a disproportionate level for battery/boring cars and interesting cars. The rest are in the middle on the 'scale'

I dont think it encourages many people at all to use less 'polluting' vehicles as the differences between bands isnt that great. Sure there will always be the 'green' brigade who will buy according to perceived impact but then there will always be those who take a more pragmatic view taking into account all factors and buy sensibly.

As for putting RFL on fuel, the goverment cant do this for two main reasons. The first is it will mean a huge number of civil servants having to do something else and as fuel is so close to the £1 / litre that if it were put on fuel it would cause uproar.

For the display of a 'legality' sticker, this could be issued by the MOT stations so that we all know if a car is mot'ed or not. However, as we have seen fuel rise to ridiculous levels already, the government is now caught.

It'll be a brave chancellor who puts fuel up over £1:eek:
 
Just got my reminder in today!

£205 up from £199 for my 2003 S320 CDI.
 
I've been keeping this nice and polite but it appears that isn't the way we like it so I'll answer in the fashion of this post.

I dont think that RFL plays too much of a part in the running costs of a car. It certainly doesnt scale according to car type, rather it scales partly according to emmisions with a disproportionate level for battery/boring cars and interesting cars. The rest are in the middle on the 'scale'
Who said it scaled according to car type, and why should it.? Both the Tesla and Lightning cars for example are battery powered and will drag 0-62mph in under 4s. I wouldn't call that boring, unless all AMG cars are even more boring also.
Other low emission vehicles will follow the performance shown by these two, they don't have to be designed as town cars.

I posted a link to the SMMT annual market report. You should take the time to read it it is full of interesting information, from the motor manufacturers.
There is already a significant shift towards lower emission vehicles and this trend is set to continue.

They predict the average Co2 of new cars sold to be 120g/km by 2012. So people are definitely migrating towards lower emission cars

Heres the linky again in case you missed it the first three times.
http://smmtlib.findlay.co.uk/articles/sharedfolder/Publications/CO2 report3.pdf



I dont think it encourages many people at all to use less 'polluting' vehicles as the differences between bands isnt that great. Sure there will always be the 'green' brigade who will buy according to perceived impact but then there will always be those who take a more pragmatic view taking into account all factors and buy sensibly.

That wasn't the point I was making. The display of RFL band gives a clear indication of the vehicles pollution, which strangely enough is linked to fuel consumption so this also gives an indication of the running costs. People can now make a decision of how much the car will cost to run as it is clearly displayed.
I recently purchased new kitchen appliances and asked whether general shoppers are influenced by the energy rating labels. The answer was that everybody now wants A or A+ rated appliances. The same will happen with cars once people are familiar with the scheme, especially if proposed colour coding comes into force.
The bands run from £0 to £300 per annum. That is enough to make many people consider buying a lower band car. This will become more relevant when the upper band charge increases to £400 and higher.
If cost isn't an issue, why have we just had a thread about the cost of RFL, and why do we get threads about the cost of servicing and insurance?

The 'green brigade' as you so pleasantly call the forward thinking people bothered about YOUR children's future are at least looking at the problem with an open mind, which is a lot more than the ostriches and dinosaurs are doing.


As for putting RFL on fuel, the government cant do this for two main reasons. The first is it will mean a huge number of civil servants having to do something else and as fuel is so close to the £1 / litre that if it were put on fuel it would cause uproar.
It's already breached £1 per litre in areas, I don't see any Civil unrest. we recently had a thread where people said they would pay £2 per litre, so why should £1 be an issue.? However as the cost of fuel rises it will focus peoples attention back to running costs, so the RFL banding system will guide motorists towards more economical cars.

If economy isn't an issue why did you, for example, buy a low powered A class Cdi, Why not a petrol?


For the display of a 'legality' sticker, this could be issued by the MOT stations so that we all know if a car is mot'ed or not.


The RFL disk gives a clear indication of MOT and insurance...oh, and now emissions..

Just so we are clear, I am not a tree hugging green with a long mangey beard, but I am simply aware of the way the market is shifting and the new technologies ahead.

Well, Ok I'm a tree hugging green with a long mangey beard...
 
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£180 for my E320 cabriolet

£165 for my E320CDI (a bargain)

Nil for my 1959 Rover (a steal)
 
The wholes system is strange. My Y reg Volvo S60 was taxed less than my V reg A170cdi (with the A170 having diesel premium and being over 1600cc), but my E270cdi being an 03 and <185gm is taxed less than either of them.

The cost difference is insignificant to anyone driving high miles, at 30k per annum the top band is 1p/mile, the bottom band is 0p/mile, insignificant if your choice is between a Smart Diesel and an S65AMG.
 
Could someone with a C180 2002 auto w203 model tell me how much they pay as I think mine may be wrong.. Many thanks. larchlap.

Put the specific details of your actual model in here and it should give you your tax banding..............

Make sure you select your correct model - there are quite a few to choose from.....click on link below......

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/ved/


PS.....Welcome ! ! ! ! !
 
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Put the specific details of your actual model in here and it should give you your tax banding..............

Make sure you select your correct model - there are quite a few to choose from.....click on link below......

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/ved/


PS.....Welcome ! ! ! ! !

Many thanks verytalldave.. (are you?) it was a long shot but it looks the right price. larchlap.
 
£180 for my oil burner
 
I pay about 100.00 quid for 6 months for the c class but when my project car is finished it's FREE :D
 
Just renewed it last week, £205 for the SL.
 

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