Custom Plates

[chriscls]

I am considering a custom plate from the bay. The company uses legal font and spacings. Regarding the slogan text underneath the reg, is there is legal requirement as to how large this can be? as I can make it as large as 10mm.

My plate will contain the EU Italy badge on left, Black border with "Who Dares Wins" as slogan and standard legal text/spacing.

 

[grumpyoldgit]

Those will be illegal and classed as show plates.

The illegal parts, or what I think will be classed as illegal.
Slogan - only the makers name or postcode, plus the British Standards number is allowed.
Italy flag. I think it has to be the flag of the country where the vehicle is registered.

Check the pdf here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v796-display-of-registration-marks-for-motor-vehicles

The choice is obviously yours and it does seem that a lot of people get away with some very obscure plates.

 

[chriscls]

Those will be illegal and classed as show plates.

The illegal parts, or what I think will be classed as illegal.
Slogan - only the makers name or postcode, plus the British Standards number is allowed.
Italy flag. I think it has to be the flag of the country where the vehicle is registered.

Check the pdf here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v796-display-of-registration-marks-for-motor-vehicles

The choice is obviously yours and it does seem that a lot of people get away with some very obscure plates.

Quote from DVLA:

"The number plates must conform to British standards or you can be fined up to £2,500 and/or be banned from supplying number plates."

"The Regulations specify the typeface, the size, colouring and the British standard that number plates must conform to (the alternative provisions for motorcycles, tricycles and traditional plates are also shown below)."

Mine conforms to the above, probably with the only exception of the EU Flag, otherwise looks ok?

 

[grumpyoldgit]

'Who Dares Wins' is illegal, as only the manufacturers detail are allowed on that part of the plate.

Try selecting the Road Legal option here to see what you can add. Online Number Plates Maker - Plates Made & Dispatched Sameday

 

[chriscls]

'Who Dares Wins' is illegal, as only the manufacturers detail are allowed on that part of the plate.

Try selecting the Road Legal option here to see what you can add. Online Number Plates Maker - Plates Made & Dispatched Sameday

Selected road legal options, able to have colored border as thick as 6mm, and text in carbon lol

 

[grumpyoldgit]

As I said, there seems to be a lot of very 'dodgy' plates about and people get away with them for years, but road legal gives you peace of mind and one less reason for getting pulled up and fined.

I was behind one yesterday, first part of the number was E11 ??? and he had it made to look like the 11 was an N. Very hard to tell it was 11 even close up.

 

[cb1965]

The numberplate law in the UK frustrates me. I can just about stomach all the crap about ANPR even if every other country in the world that has ANPR can manage just fine with smaller letters, different coloured plates etc., but the bit I think is really daft is the badge next to the plate. You can have any of the country flags of the UK or GB or the EU flag, but nothing else... why? What difference does it make? It's a law with no reason!

 

[Dieselman]

The numberplate law in the UK frustrates me. I can just about stomach all the crap about ANPR even if every other country in the world that has ANPR can manage just fine with smaller letters, different coloured plates etc., but the bit I think is really daft is the badge next to the plate. You can have any of the country flags of the UK or GB or the EU flag, but nothing else... why? What difference does it make? It's a law with no reason!

So that the plate is standard across the EU. That is for recognition, not ANPR.

Not difficult to understand the rationale behind that.

 

[chriscls]

So that the plate is standard across the EU. That is for recognition, not ANPR.

Not difficult to understand the rationale behind that.

I understand to a point, but recognition of what? Does a car bearing a UK Reg not suggest that the car is registered to the UK?

It is almost a fact, the UK are renowned for making life harder than it needs to be, alot of countries manage fine with finer details, the UK largely takes an idiot's crash course approach to everything and is known to play it "safe".

The EU is a union, any flag should be allowed and especially more so if the car's manufacturer is EU based too. Again the UK complicates the EU issue, because it wants to retain it's union status but does not want to conform. An entirely different issue but the logic is clear.

 

[cb1965]

I understand to a point, but recognition of what? Does a car bearing a UK Reg not suggest that the car is registered to the UK?

It is almost a fact, the UK are renowned for making life harder than it needs to be, alot of countries manage fine with finer details, the UK largely takes an idiot's crash course approach to everything and is known to play it "safe".

The EU is a union, any flag should be allowed and especially more so if the car's manufacturer is EU based too. Again the UK complicates the EU issue, because it wants to retain it's union status but does not want to conform. An entirely different issue but the logic is clear.

The recognition argument is complete nonsense as you don't have to have any badge at the end of the plate.

 

[chriscls]

The recognition argument is complete nonsense as you don't have to have any badge at the end of the plate.

100%.

I live in NI, I may get an EU Italy plate, and if stopped claim that I thought the "I" stood for Ireland? perfectly possible haha

 

[Dieselman]

The recognition argument is complete nonsense as you don't have to have any badge at the end of the plate.

But then you have to display the country of registration when in another country...by Law.

The symbol on the numberplate negates that as ...ta-da...it displays the car is from the EU or the country of registration.

There, not so hard, was it...

 

[flowrider]

In the eyes of the law ignorance is no defence.

 

[Deleted member 37751]

It is almost a fact

'Almost a fact'?

Is that the same as almost unique?

 

[Dieselman]

The EU is a union, any flag should be allowed and especially more so if the car's manufacturer is EU based too. Again the UK complicates the EU issue, because it wants to retain it's union status but does not want to conform. An entirely different issue but the logic is clear.

Hmmm. So you drive over an old Granny at a crossing and drive off, but your number gets taken and reported.

The I denotes it is an Italian registered car, so there database gets checked...Err...no...

 

[chriscls]

But then you have to display the country of registration when in another country...by Law.

The symbol on the number plate negates that as ...ta-da...it displays the car is from the EU or the country of registration.

There, not so hard, was it...

What if I travel to Italy on the plates I have currently as standard and legal. They read nothing but the UK registration and manufacturer? This negates the EU/Flag issue.

They clearly understand this to be a foreign vehicle, I have never been stopped by foreign police forces on normal plates.

I really do think that as long as your actions are "reasonable", the law can accommodate elements. Yes, if you choose to be a 100% law abiding citizen, do not for the life of you consider having a small slogan or German flag on your plate haha. The guidelines/law do appear to be a contradiction especially in NI, where plates are not required to display the EU/Flags.

 

[Dieselman]

What if I travel to Italy on the plates I have currently as standard and legal. They read nothing but the UK registration and manufacturer? This negates the EU/Flag issue.

The guidelines/law do appear to be a contradiction especially in NI, where plates are not required to display the EU/Flags.

If you visit a foreign country, you have to display the country of registration...and that's nearly a fact...oh, hang on, it actually is a fact...

 

[chriscls]

Hmmm. So you drive over an old Granny at a crossing and drive off, but your number gets taken and reported.

The I denotes it is an Italian registered car, so there database gets checked...Err...no...

I see your point, but before the flags/EU where ever implemented, cars were identified by their reg. The reg commonly associates a car to its country of registration, why complicate it by adding a flag to the mix, when I can drive with a normal plate/no flag now and be identified?

The first thing must does, I am assuming, is to check the damn registration number, i.e which country format it conforms to. Not what flag is displayed, again perhaps too simple a process for UK authorities. I travel regularly on normal plates/no flags to EU and with zero problems.

 

[chriscls]

If you visit a foreign country, you have to display the country of registration...and that's nearly a fact...oh, hang on, it actually is a fact...

almost a fact, given I was in Italy last week and never asked to display this bar the reg I had on car.

Then again, I did cross during siesta

 

[Dieselman]

I see your point, but before the flags/EU where ever implemented, cars were identified by their reg.

And the country of registration plate or sticker on the rear.

This is the problem with laws. As soon as they are relaxed a little, some people think they can take liberties.


Can you see the giveaway on the back of this car that is it from Czechoslovakia, way before EU plates or stoopid flags were allowed on number plates.

Easy...Innit...