Custom Plates

[chriscls]

And the country of registration plate or sticker on the rear.

This is the problem with laws. As soon as they are relaxed a little, some people think they can take liberties.

It is not about this, of course there are laws. Some obey, others try and get around them (like me). I was looking advice, for what its worth I think police on UK mainland are stricter than NI, and the plates I see daily in NI that fail to conform even in ways you could not imagine, drive fine.

My point was with a simple flag and small fingernail slogan. I will go ahead with the slogan and forget about flag. Having a sticker is not the most robust way to enforce such laws, and ones apparently serious, which is why temp measures like this exist. E.g driving over granny, peel sticker off, drive!

 

[meeeb]

I see your point, but before the flags/EU where ever implemented, cars were identified by their reg. The reg commonly associates a car to its country of registration, why complicate it by adding a flag to the mix, when I can drive with a normal plate/no flag now and be identified?

The first thing must does, I am assuming, is to check the damn registration number, i.e which country format it conforms to. Not what flag is displayed, again perhaps too simple a process for UK authorities. I travel regularly on normal plates/no flags to EU and with zero problems.

You posed a query about number plates, received accurate responses which didn't suit you, then proceeded to advance spurious arguments in an effort to reach the conclusion you want.

You're wasting people's time. The solution is to do what you want and suffer any resultant consequences.

 

[chriscls]

It is not about this, of course there are laws. Some obey, others try and get around them (like me). I was looking advice, for what its worth I think police on UK mainland are stricter than NI, and the plates I see daily in NI that fail to conform even in ways you could not imagine, drive fine.

My point was with a simple flag and small fingernail slogan. I will go ahead with the slogan and forget about flag. Having a sticker is not the most robust way to enforce such laws, and ones apparently serious, which is why temp measures like this exist. E.g driving over granny, peel sticker off, drive!

You posed a query about number plates, received accurate responses which didn't suit you, then proceeded to advance spurious arguments in an effort to reach the conclusion you want.

You're wasting people's time. The solution is to do what you want and suffer any resultant consequences.

Sorry, but forums are for seeking advice, of course I choose to partly avail of (Bolded). We are entitled to make informed decisions and review opinion. I did say the EU/Flag issue was another debate entirely and before the thread got out of hand, I give the above reply.

The information within was good and I did not spark the initial debate. You clearly disagree with my choice and inciting to flame an argument. Forums are about exchanging views, many people avoid forums from fear of asking questions and are subsequently expected to follow advice as given.

I like the forum alot and has given me good advice, but to disagree with someone's choice and call it a waste of peoples time is not reasonable. Of course I would prefer people said yea it fine to do this and that to your plate, thats my reason for posting to find justification.

 

[Meldrew2]

I see your point, but before the flags/EU where ever implemented, cars were identified by their reg...

Not quite. Remember the old oval GB stickers?

 

[Dieselman]

Not quite. Remember the old oval GB stickers?

Is that almost a fact?

 

[Dieselman]

I've been thinking it's a good job you don't live in Wat in Thailand.

If you did, instead of having "Who dares Wins" as the text on your plate, you could have "I'm at Wat"

 

[Meldrew2]

…..you could have "I'm at Wat"

Remember, it is also illegal to mis-space the letters…… :bannana:

 

[cb1965]

Yes you have to display your country of origin yet it does not have to be displayed on the plate in the badge position ergo the fact that you can only have a country or EU flag there is a nonsense just as it was when I originally made the point an hour or so ago.

The arguments otherwise are tedious not to mention wrong, but no surprise there given who is involved. As they say on the Den I'm out (before I lose the will to bother with this place any longer)!

 

[chriscls]

I am glad there can be a laugh, I hate serious forums

 

[Dieselman]

Yes you have to display your country of origin yet it does not have to be displayed on the plate in the badge position ergo the fact that you can only have a country or EU flag there is a nonsense just as it was when I originally made the point an hour or so ago.

The arguments otherwise are tedious not to mention wrong, but no surprise there given who is involved. As they say on the Den I'm out (before I lose the will to bother with this place any longer)!

Whey, Hey. I'm glad you're back.

Which part of this do you find difficult to understand?

https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates/flags-symbols-and-identifiers

Flags and national identifying letters

You can display one of the following flags with identifying letters on the left-hand side of the number plate:

Union Flag
Cross of St George
Cross of St Andrew - also known as the Saltire
Red Dragon of Wales

The letters, or national identifiers, you can have are:

GREAT BRITAIN, Great Britain or GB
UNITED KINGDOM, United Kingdom or UK
CYMRU, Cymru, CYM or Cym
ENGLAND, England, ENG, Eng
SCOTLAND, Scotland, SCO or Sco
WALES or Wales

You’ll still need a GB sticker when travelling in Europe if you display one of these national flags and identifiers.

The flag must be above the identifier. You can’t have the flag or letters on the number plate margin, and neither can be more than 50 millimetres wide.
Euro symbol

If you display the Euro symbol and Great Britain (GB) national identifier on your number plate, then you won’t need a separate GB sticker when travelling within the European Union.

The Euro symbol must:

be a minimum height of 98mm
have a width between 40 and 50mm
have a reflective blue background with 12 reflecting yellow stars at the top
show the member state (GB) in reflecting white or yellow

 

[cb1965]

Whey, Hey. I'm glad you're back.

Which part of this do you find difficult to understand?

https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates/flags-symbols-and-identifiers

Flags and national identifying letters

You can display one of the following flags with identifying letters on the left-hand side of the number plate:

Union Flag
Cross of St George
Cross of St Andrew - also known as the Saltire
Red Dragon of Wales

The letters, or national identifiers, you can have are:

GREAT BRITAIN, Great Britain or GB
UNITED KINGDOM, United Kingdom or UK
CYMRU, Cymru, CYM or Cym
ENGLAND, England, ENG, Eng
SCOTLAND, Scotland, SCO or Sco
WALES or Wales

You’ll still need a GB sticker when travelling in Europe if you display one of these national flags and identifiers.

The flag must be above the identifier. You can’t have the flag or letters on the number plate margin, and neither can be more than 50 millimetres wide.
Euro symbol

If you display the Euro symbol and Great Britain (GB) national identifier on your number plate, then you won’t need a separate GB sticker when travelling within the European Union.

The Euro symbol must:

be a minimum height of 98mm
have a width between 40 and 50mm
have a reflective blue background with 12 reflecting yellow stars at the top
show the member state (GB) in reflecting white or yellow

If you can use a GB sticker to identify your car as British when abroad then it does not matter what is displayed on the end of the plate does it?

Quoting the law like a cut and paste king is doesn't make it logical or sensible, it just makes you look like an idiot for missing the point being made.

I will elaborate just for you,

Car A has England flag on plate and GB sticker on rear of car... PC Johnny Foreigner knows its from Britain.

Car B has a picture of a tiger on the plate and a GB sticker on the rear of the car... PC Johnny Foreigner knows its from Britain.

What is displayed on the end of the plae is irrelevant yet the law says we can only have the national flags or an EU flag.... why?

Now what part of that point do YOU find difficult to understand?

 

[Meldrew2]

…...Now what part of that point do YOU find difficult to understand?

It must be

I'll get the

 

[Dieselman]

If you can use a GB sticker to identify your car as British when abroad then it does not matter what is displayed on the end of the plate does it?

Quoting the law like a cut and paste king is doesn't make it logical or sensible, it just makes you look like an idiot for missing the point being made.

I will elaborate just for you,

Car A has England flag on plate and GB sticker on rear of car... PC Johnny Foreigner knows its from Britain.

Car B has a picture of a tiger on the plate and a GB sticker on the rear of the car... PC Johnny Foreigner knows its from Britain.

What is displayed on the end of the plae is irrelevant yet the law says we can only have the national flags or an EU flag.... why?

Now what part of that point do YOU find difficult to understand?

By Law, you cannot display an Italian flag and the Italian identifier letter I.

Why can you not comprehend that?

By using a National identifier, the O/p will be giving the impression his car is registered in Italy, which it clearly isn't.

You introduces a silly picture just to attempt to cloud the issue, but he doesn't want just any daft picture, he wants to use a National identifier.

 

[cb1965]

By Law, you cannot display an Italian flag and the Italian identifier letter I.

Why can you not comprehend that?

Er... nowhere on this thread have I suggested doing that have I?

I am simply asking why, for example, things like manufacturer's logos or (God forbid) football team badges cannot be displayed on the end of the plate like they used to be able to be!

You keep asking abut my comprehension of things when you seem to have none yourself!

 

[cb1965]

It must be

I'll get the

I don't drink or eat popcorn, but I used to box and this guy is enough to make me take it up again

 

[Dieselman]

Er... nowhere on this thread have I suggested doing that have I?

I am simply asking why, for example, things like manufacturer's logos or (God forbid) football team badges cannot be displayed on the end of the plate like they used to be able to be!

You keep asking abut my comprehension of things when you seem to have none yourself!

The law is set tightly to stop people from Wat abusing what is displayed, like the O/p wants to do.

It's REALLY simple...

 

[cb1965]

The law is s REALLY stupid as I said in the first place!

<THINKS>Why oh why did I take him off the ignore function</THINKS>

 

[chriscls]

By Law, you cannot display an Italian flag and the Italian identifier letter I.

Why can you not comprehend that?

By using a National identifier, the O/p will be giving the impression his car is registered in Italy, which it clearly isn't.

You introduces a silly picture just to attempt to cloud the issue, but he doesn't want just any daft picture, he wants to use a National identifier.

If my registration is ITA1Y and has the UK Flag , I will give the impression its Italian.

An impression is subjective, an idea, feeling, or opinion. Is this law based on impression or something more profound because this identification argument does fails to stand in my opinion. A donkey can interpret that a standard UK Format is almost certainly a UK registered car, regardless of its flag on side.

 

[Dieselman]

If my registration is ITA1Y and has the UK Flag , I will give the impression its Italian.

An impression is subjective, an idea, feeling, or opinion. Is this law based on impression or something more profound because this identification argument does fails to stand in my opinion. A donkey can interpret that a standard UK Format is almost certainly a UK registered car, regardless of its flag on side.

What if you had a personalised, none standard registration and displayed your daft wannabee incorrect country insignia, perhaps on even more daft German pressed metal plates.
Who would then know where the car was registered.

The law has to be all encompassing to stop people being able to interpret it how they want to...like you want to.

It can't be easier, on the first page you were advised to pick a legal plate. as the Nike advert says...Just do It...

 

[chriscls]

The law is set tightly to stop people from Wat abusing what is displayed, like the O/p wants to do.

It's REALLY simple...

I am fine with the law, I do not wish to abuse it, rather add to the mix. If I can contain all the info, and add something a little personal this is entirely reasonable. Does the Government see such reason? no because if it can be made hard, you can rest assure the UK will achieve that.