Do you indicate on roundabout?

[Meldrew2]

I was told that the only reliable information that an indicator imparts... ... Is that the bulb isn't blown.

Anyway, I drive a BMW and I indicate at roundabouts.

It confuses the heck out of other motorists, that's the last thing they expect a BMW to do...

 

[wongl]

He does have a point though...if you are on a slip road where else are you going...the indicator serves absolutely no purpose other than to make sure other, more self righteous, people are not upset.

For me it servers as a courtesy which in return I will usually change lane or slow down, if safe to do so, to allow the driver to merge and join the road. I do not generally down nor change lane to give way for drivers that are too lazy to signal when I have right of way unless I have no choice.

Other drivers may choose to behave differently with their right of way, but I have found that truck drivers in general react very favorably to me when I use my signal to indicate my intention to merge onto another road. Perhaps by signaling I am indicating that I intend to merge sensibly and efficiently? Who knows?

 

[renault12ts]

For me it servers as a courtesy which in return I will usually change lane or slow down, if safe to do so, to allow the driver to merge and join the road. I do not generally down nor change lane to give way for drivers that are too lazy to signal when I have right of way unless I have no choice.

Other drivers may choose to behave differently with their right of way, but I have found that truck drivers in general react very favorably to me when I use my signal to indicate my intention to merge onto another road. Perhaps by signaling I am indicating that I intend to merge sensibly and efficiently? Who knows?

 

[IanMSpencer]

My view is that you use indicators to help people. On entering a roundabout you want confirmation of where someone is going so road positioning plus indicator gives you some reassurance, speed, and so on. Without a signal you are left without another level of confirmation so you make life a bit more difficult for people.

On mini-roundabouts signalling when exiting may be pointless due to the road layout, but bear in mind that pedestrians may also be watching for you further down the road.

Slip roads - as far as I am concerned the indicator is a glorified hazard warning and provides no useful information but may help an inattentive driver respond. As soon as you descend into right of way arguments you are heading for a driving fail - my view is that you are part of a cooperative effort to keep traffic flowing smoothly and safely and adjusting to allow traffic to merge is part of that responsibility.

That being said, my pet hate is people who unnecessarily wave people out of junctions breaking priority. Unless traffic is gridlocked or queuing heavily the best thing to do is stick with priorities - and even then be as mindful of the traffic behind you as trying to join.

 

[cb1965]

If you dont like a thread, or think its pointless then dont post.

Why you feel the need post, only to stir up trouble again and again?

So patronising people is okay as long as you're one of the gang? Usual forum clique nonsense!

 

[cb1965]

cb1965 is the only person I have ever put on the ignore list in over 10 years here.

After you and your mates ripped into me over my first comments here and I didn't lie down and take it you mean! :fail

 

[KillerHERTZ]

So patronising people is okay as long as you're one of the gang? Usual forum clique nonsense!

Why the chip on your shoulder about a gang? "Usual forum clique?" if you have experenced this on other forums aswell then it might be how you come across that is the issue!

There is no 'gang' just chill and dont take things so personally! - its only a forum afterall

 

[cb1965]

Why the chip on your shoulder about a gang? "Usual forum clique?" if you have experenced this on other forums aswell then it might be how you come across that is the issue!

There is no 'gang' just chill and dont take things so personally! - its only a forum afterall

So you are seriously saying that forums don't build a clique mentality? As someone who works in the field I can tell you they do. Some are worse than others, but inevitably a set of 'regulars' come to operate under slightly different rules to others much like the regulars in a pub get treated differently by the landlord to more occasional customers. As an admin you are not likely to ever acknowledge this (as you see it as a failing when it's not really), but it is proven fact from behavioural studies of socialised structures on the Internet and how they compare with the real world.

As for taking things personally I don't other than the three who laid into me on one of the first threads I ever contributed to on here and who as a result of being given as good as they got decided they didn't like it and now take a pop whenever they can!

Yes it is only the Internet, but I just think there has to more to a car club than debating some of the nonsense that gets analysed to the nth degree on here and some of the nastiness that seems to go with it!

 

[Meldrew2]

I drove a van for many years. There is a different procedure. Manoeuvre : Mirror : Signal.

Manoeuvre : Just go where you wanted to go.
Mirror : Look in the mirror to see who's blowing their horn and flashing their lights at you
Signal : Hand signals are clearest. Either one finger or two…

 

[KeithJG]

Yes, i know they are called "indicators" as they indicate where you are going to go (according to some users)....Lol

But they are used also to attract attention and so when going down a slip road to join a Mway who does not indicate ?....just like a Belisha Beacon attracts attention to a crossing.

Driving a Merc..... i go faster than most other cars and not the least bothered about the car behind me but when joining a roundabout i indicate just in case the berk to the left of me pulls out...if he isn`t there then i just concentrate on driving!

 

[renault12ts]

After you and your mates ripped into me over my first comments here and I didn't lie down and take it you mean! :fail

Where is this thread you keep mentioning?

 

[cb1965]

Where is this thread you keep mentioning?

Oh for pity's sake you know damn well it got moderated out of existence, stop trying to play games!

 

[renault12ts]

Oh for pity's sake you know damn well it got edited and removed, stop trying to play games!

Well I didn't...but I'll take your word for it. Is it impossible for you to move on? This happened 2.5 years ago...that's much water under the bridge, and I, for one, apologise for the offence I caused at that time.

 

[cb1965]

Well I didn't...but I'll take your word for it. Is it impossible for you to move on?

I think you should ask yourself the same question! Ignore me and I'll do likewise, but you usually can't help yourself!

 

[Meldrew2]

 

[renault12ts]

You started it.

 

[renault12ts]

I think you should ask yourself the same question! Ignore me and I'll do likewise, but you usually can't help yourself!

OK...truce, I'll ignore you, and you'll do the same and everyone else will benefit...because I'm obviously the problem.

 

[Carrsey]

I suspect that when joining a motorway from the slip road there can be absolutely no ambiguity about the driver's intentions.

In other situations yes, use those signals, but in this situation whatever else would the driver be about to do?

You may be suffering issues with your car and intending to proceed to the hard shoulder (yes I have seen it happen).

The drivers approaching may be foreign and operate to a different system (yes I have seen all kinds of strange things from foreign drivers)

Where you are entering may be the start of a "magic" motorway, where the hard shoulder is used as a running lane, so why would you need to move over to the next lane.

As mentioned by another member it is common curtesy and also mentioned by the same member, some people don't alter speed or course to let you in if you are not indicating, thus sparking road rage (i have dealt with plenty of incidents and virtually all sparked by very minor trivial issues), far better to indicate and everyone remains pleasant.

The driver that doesn't alter speed or course could claim "well i did not know you wanted to enter at the exact point because you were not indicating, i thought you were going to slow and move in behind me, or speed up and get in front of the car in front of me" (trust me you will find someone who will claim such things).




So as i say, if there are other road users there, indicate, you never know it may benefit someone... As well as being the correct thing to do..

 

[Deleted member 113659]

Can I just say. It's such a shame that these crossed words have to happen.

This is just a forum for cars guys. Nothing serious. Look at all the things going on in the world???

I for one log on here for a little bit of fun and maybe I bit of useful info. The thing with making posts is a bit like texting. You can't hear the 'tone of voice' the post is intended in. Some members read into things. Others take it with a pinch of salt.

So come on guys, lighten up eh?

Ant.

 

[E55BOF]

Yes it is only the Internet, but I just think there has to be more to a car club than debating some of the nonsense that gets analysed to the nth degree on here and some of the nastiness that seems to go with it!

And indeed there is more to it. Try just ignoring the nonsense, rather than posting some catty comment and provoking some more 'nastiness'. You do seem to get embroiled in frosty or acrimonious exchanges more than most; if I were you, I'd try just letting things go more often. Let's all just live and let live....