EV Acceleration + Idiot - Experience = Dangerous?

[Bobby Dazzler]

After experimenting the car is very very clever and it anticipates changes in speed limits and potential hazards in advance, and interiors coasting using the regenerative braking to adjust the speed. It did it for roundabouts and even sharp bends. Very impressive albeit a little irritating as it was more cautious than I would be when visibility was good.

I covered around 140 miles in around 3.5 hours with a mix of fast dual carriageways, quintessential British B roads, and some urban driving too, and it impressed in all situations. Despite being the smallest EQ model it was roomy enough for four adults to sit in comfort and had a fair turn of pace. The boot was as good as you could expect too.

It felt really spritely when accelerating at slower speeds but the first time I joined a dual carriageway it surprised me how quickly the rate of acceleration failed off. It was perhaps quicker than its ICE equivalent but not by as much as it was at lower speeds. All to be expected with an EV.

The range was down to 22 miles when I parked it to charge. It had used around 170 miles of range to cover around 140 miles, which again is to be expected based upon owners reports of other EVs. That was with normal driving though, smooth and progressive and not like an on/off switch in the way some people drive EVs.

My only criticism is a very very small one. There was no ambient lighting around the cup holders which made me realising how important ambient lighting has become, and how it has become an aid to passive safety. Oh and my daughter said the plastic trim was a bit scratchy around the seat belt point in the back. And that’s it.

 

[HappytalkAgain]

………just a courtesy car…..

……I covered around 140 miles……..

Now that’s value for (no) money.

You didn’t use it to move house again did ya?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Now that’s value for (no) money.

You didn’t use it to move house again did ya?

That made me chuckle!

You know me Ant. I like good value, and you can’t get better value than free!!

When I picked it up I asked what I needed to do because I wouldn’t be able to return it with the same amount of fuel (or more) - they simply said just bring it back and we’ll charge it overnight.

To be fair had I stayed at the dealer instead, then the cost of biscuits, coffee and fizzy drinks that I would’ve consumed in the same period would cost them more than the electricity!

PS When it goes back in I’ve requested a Luton van. It will be much better suited to moving house!

 

[Deleted member 126251]

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To be fair had I stayed at the dealer instead, then the cost of biscuits, coffee and fizzy drinks that I would’ve consumed in the same period would cost them more than the electricity!

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At the current price of electricity, .....wow.

Are you from Yorkshire?

From my observations of people that I’ve met here, anything for free is grabbed with two hands even if they don’t like, want or need it.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

At the current price of electricity, .....wow.

Are you from Yorkshire?

From my observations of people that I’ve met here, anything for free is grabbed with two hands even if they don’t like, want or need it.

In reality it was far from free, the 15-year service at a main dealer is eye-wateringly expensive with a capital F, so I paid for the use of it. I really liked the EQA too, there’s nothing not to like, cracking little car, and in reality more than most people need in a car.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

In reality it was far from free, the 15-year service at a main dealer is eye-wateringly expensive with a capital F, so I paid for the use of it. I really liked the EQA too, there’s nothing not to like, cracking little car, and in reality more than most people need in a car.

When I had mine serviced earlier this year, the loan car had so little petrol in the tank, that I was worried about getting to the petrol station. They (MB York) no longer provide fuel in the tank. The service guys explained that people used up all the fuel, did excessive mileage and never replaced the fuel they used. I was always happy to put back what I’d used.

Because people abuse the courtesy of a loan car, I expect that the time will come when dealers stop providing loan cars.

My first ride in an electric was two weeks ago in my son’s new Taycan. That acceleration is scary!

 

[HappytalkAgain]

My first ride in an electric was two weeks ago in my son’s new Taycan. That acceleration is scary!

You’re a tease Rory.



If you please.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

You’re a tease Rory.



If you please.

My youngest grandson (3.5 yo) is impressed with it. Keeps talking about daddy’s Porch (sic) and how it is faster than my car. First time I’ve ever sat in one (and i’ve been to the Porsche factory & museum in Stuttgart) and I can see why people love them.

 

[HappytalkAgain]

I think he’s embarrassed/ashamed of the brand the way he’s hiding the badge!

Joking aside that looks awesome. And in a colour that suits many a special Modern car.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

I think he’s embarrassed/ashamed of the brand the way he’s hiding the badge!

Joking aside that looks awesome. And in a colour that suits many a special Modern car.

Lying all over it like it is his...

He buys a different colour every time he buys a car. I’m not a fan of silver but it does look nice on that car.

 

[clk320x]

Nice car

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

My youngest grandson (3.5 yo) is impressed with it. Keeps talking about daddy’s Porch (sic) and how it is faster than my car. First time I’ve ever sat in one (and i’ve been to the Porsche factory & museum in Stuttgart) and I can see why people love them.View attachment 135415
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Lovely

 

[Wolfie1]

His neighbours look like they would be dead quiet too

 

[grober]

Returning to the original topic about the dangers of EV acceleration, the initial EV hazard presented to pedestrians from their inception iirc involved their lack of vehicle /engine noise which presented a hazard to those with impaired hearing and vision-- an issue which has either not turned out to be the threat predicted ?or has simply been ignored at least at this point in the current EV penetration of the market?

 

[ALFAitalia]

Not ignored at all (aside from the fact that if you are deaf you would always be extras vigilant when you cross the road as even in many modern ICE cars the loudest thing is tyre noise) as all modern EVs now come with a noise at low speed as it's been a requirement since 2019.

 

[grober]

Not ignored at all (aside from the fact that if you are deaf you would always be extras vigilant when you cross the road as even in many modern ICE cars the loudest thing is tyre noise) as all modern EVs now come with a noise at low speed as it's been a requirement since 2019.

Good to know the problem is being addressed. What sort of sound is generated?--is standardised? how loud is it? or does it vary according to manufacturer? - is it covered by legislation/ voluntary?--its a characteristic thats seldom mentioned in any ev reviews any "sound bites" /examples- just curious

 

[ALFAitalia]

Most of them only make a noise at low speed....up to about 15mph and all the ones I've "heard" just seem to make a sci fi like starship hum. Only a matter of time before the programmers get in there to customise that sound. Image how confused some tree hugger would be if you are sat at the lights in your Tesla S with the sound of an open headered 428 cubic inch 69/70 Dodge Hemi V8 on tick over bellowing from the car!!

 

[poormansporsche]

Excuse my random musings.........

I have had 3 customers with Tesla's.

It's my little joke to accidentally call them "Tamiya's"

The first customer was a millennial so it went completely over his head.

The second customer was a 50 something who found it quite funny.

The third customer was a 30 something, skinny jean wearer and took it as a personal insult.

There we go then, social observation of the day

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Good to know the problem is being addressed. What sort of sound is generated?--is standardised? how loud is it? or does it vary according to manufacturer? - is it covered by legislation/ voluntary?--its a characteristic thats seldom mentioned in any ev reviews any "sound bites" /examples- just curious

If it is mandatory on EVs then it’s perhaps easily disabled. Only yesterday my Dad - who has impaired hearing and wears a hearing aid - commented that he can’t sense EVs approaching unless he’s looking at them, even with his hearing aids on.

My parents live in a private drive of three houses and neighbours on both sides have EVs. He can hear them reverse as they beep but they make no noise at all when traveling forwards which means that they take him by surprise, if he’s gardening, working on his cars, getting stuff out of the boot. etc.

 

[grober]

If it is mandatory on EVs then it’s perhaps easily disabled. Only yesterday my Dad - who has impaired hearing and wears a hearing aid - commented that he can’t sense EVs approaching unless he’s looking at them, even with his hearing aids on.

My parents live in a private drive of three houses and neighbours on both sides have EVs. He can hear them reverse as they beep but they make no noise at all when traveling forwards which means that they take him by surprise, if he’s gardening, working on his cars, getting stuff out of the boot. etc.

My own limited experience of EVs in my locality is they omit a low whine or hum which I take it comes from the electric motor and reduction gears /differentials and some tyre noise depending the road surface. I am certainly unaware of any "artificially generated sound"
Part of the problem of their sound profile is its omnidirectional/white noise signature compared say to a small diesel car which is far more directional/distinctive in nature.

Do electric cars make a noise?

Electric cars are ultra-quiet at low speeds, so should they emit an artificial noise to warn cyclists and pedestrians of their presence?

www.whatcar.com

Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2017/1576 of 26 June 2017 amending Regulation (EU) No 540/2014 of the European Parliament and of the Council as regards the Acoustic Vehicle Alerting System requirements for vehicle EU-type approval (Text with EEA

Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2017/1576 of 26 June 2017 amending Regulation (EU) No 540/2014 of the European Parliament and of the Council as regards the Acoustic Vehicle Alerting System requirements for vehicle EU-type approval (Text with EEA relevance)

www.legislation.gov.uk