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EV's and battery damage & other woes means I wont buy one

There seem to be many pro EV advocates about that don't actually own one.
It begs the question why not? 🤔
 
You may be confusing being pro-EV with being anti-nonessene....
“Anti-nonsense.”

As in we have more than 20 million cars in the UK that do less than 5,000 miles a year. If we all convert all passenger cars to EV they’ll all run out of electricity when they drive 400 miles to the Brecon Beacons for a business meeting because there isn’t enough electricity there.
 
Not judging by some of the comments.
Indeed. Some of the loaded language used by advocates of the battery powered car are comical. Obsessed, Hating, Hate & Scary. 6th form stuff.

Yeah, people are obsessed with hating on them. It seems their popularity is scary to some.

I still fail to understand all the hate as no one is currently forcing anyone to buy one.
 
The price of electricity from the lamppost chargers in our area is currently 46p per kWh, which isn't particularly cheap. Partly because it includes 20% VAT. But I suspect that the other reason is low usage.

One issue is surely that at 46p per kWh you are probably paying more per mile for 'fuel' than you would with an equivalent ICE, so not much incentive to switch if you can't charge at home. And the cost of charging can only go up in future as the government look to recoup the duty they receive from ICE fuels now (63.54p per litre, including VAT).
 
The price of electricity from the lamppost chargers in our area is currently 46p per kWh, which isn't particularly cheap. Partly because it includes 20% VAT. But I suspect that the other reason is low usage.
Surely it should be far more expensive than that to persuade people living in the middle of cities to use the existing public transport network which is right on their doorstep.

The only people who should be eligible for a low emissions city car outside their front door are those with mobility issues. Think urban EV as a modern day Invacar not the 500bhp bloated blobs which currently grace the roads.
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One issue is surely that at 46p per kWh you are probably paying more per mile for 'fuel' than you would with an equivalent ICE, so not much incentive to switch if you can't charge at home. And the cost of charging can only go up in future as the government look to recoup the duty they receive from ICE fuels now (63.54p per litre, including VAT).
Let's count the false arguments here:

1) We, the taxpayers, give the 750,000 company car users, such as Markjay an enormous EV tax break
(isn't the saving £5k cash for someone choosing an Ioniq5 as a company car rather than a BMW 320d this year? I forget )
By giving company car buyers that tax break, Joe Average will be able to pick up a four year old Ioniq5 with 30k on the clock for £15k....

2) Sad IQ has put a £15 a day congestion charge tax on non-EV's being used in Central London - until 25th December 2025.

3) Markjay, and many other EV owners, aren't just using EV's in cities purely to save money, they're obsessed with pollution.

4) Why would the cost of charging "only go up" with volume and competition?
How would installing more chargers in Supermarkets, on high streets, and outside libraries and council estates "cost more?"

5) Isn't it more likely that 2024's Labour Government will increase its taxation on motorists by charging by actual mileage driven
(and areas driven in) than by charging more for electricity coming out of a 13 amp domestic electric sockets, factory car park sockets and Tesco charge points?
The easy tax hit is on those who actually drive.
 
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Hmmm storing highly flammable liquids...:

Storing petrol safely: Fire and explosion.
Empty until needed - if needed at all.
Thing is, any ICE vehicle that has run dry can be resuscitated very, very easily. The same is not true for EVs. There will be an occurrence at some point (eg gridlock, all stuck in snow) where that assumes significance.
 
imho these types are wired to be negative and will charge on regardless until they are blue in the face, green with ev envy and spluttering over their brown corduroy.
Here we go - again.
Can't possibly be anything wrong with EVs and associated infrastructure, can only be something wrong with the people who have the wit to see a problem arising before its manifestation.
As for playing the 'envy' card. Lame.
 
Empty until needed - if needed at all.
Thing is, any ICE vehicle that has run dry can be resuscitated very, very easily. The same is not true for EVs. There will be an occurrence at some point (eg gridlock, all stuck in snow) where that assumes significance.

ICE out of fuel on motorway… call recovery

EV out of charge on motorway… call recovery
 
Why are people going on about running out of fuel or running out of charge as if it is a real problem? Complete and utter non-issue.

Who runs out of fuel? I have never done so in over twenty years of driving. It’s not as though you don’t get any kind of warning now is it? :)

There’s something like 30 or 40 million cars in the UK, how many run out of fuel (or charge) each day?

Mind you, we do seem to have petrol/diesel shortages due to panic buying every few years! :doh:

Maybe a similar sized battery boost pack could take place of a jerry can for those who for some unforeseen reason need a few extra miles to get them going?

Or the already mentioned option - you call recovery, the same for any other breakdown.

Really not seeing this as a legitimate reason to avoid EVs personally.
 
Actually about 43 people run their cars out of fuel every day....obviously stoopid people but even so!


In reality, in a sample of 13,000 electric vehicle breakdowns attended by the AA, less than four percent were due to the driving battery being flat.........,miles less than ICE drivers breaking down because of their batteries failing!!

 
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Love to see the source of that statistic.

That’s over 2000 people per day.

Maybe if they could charge at home or work conveniently this number could be reduced :P
 
?????

You may have seen the post I posted as a joke before thinking better of it!!
 

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