Has UK enough generating power for electric cars , heat pumps and all other requirements

[Deleted member 159894]

Who is it that’s telling you this?

I feel left out.

It’s a secret.

 

[Tonygw]

Who is it that’s telling you this?

I feel left out.

Think it was Shaz on facebook

 

[Fastcar155]

Hi , I have just seen on Portuguese TV that the UK National Grid is struggling to keep up with power demands.

Tomorrow after noon is a real problem in that the National Grid will pay customers in certain non specified areas to not use any electricity.

What have the EV evangelist got to say about that !!

 

[markjay]

Hi , I have just seen on Portuguese TV that the UK National Grid is struggling to keep up with power demands.

Tomorrow after noon is a real problem in that the National Grid will pay customers in certain non specified areas to not use any electricity.

What have the EV evangelist got to say about that !!

I guess that the EV evangelists are not here because they are all away charging their EVs ahead of tomorrow's power shortages?

 

[SpikyMikey]

I guess that the EV evangelists are not here because they are all away charging their EVs ahead of tomorrow's power shortages?

I've got the generator primed and the shotgun loaded to repel looters.....

 

[Fastcar155]

I guess that the EV evangelists are not here because they are all away charging their EVs ahead of tomorrow's power shortages?

Hi , here in the Algarve they don't buy EVs in any great quantity.

Faro has very few charging points and most are in operative - flattened by whom I have no idea but flat they are.

 

[markjay]

Hi , here in the Algarve they don't buy EVs in any great quantity.

Faro has very few charging points and most are in operative - flattened by whom I have no idea but flat they are.

How do you mean 'flattened'? As in someone drove a digger over them?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I've got the generator primed and the shotgun loaded to repel looters.....

 

[Fastcar155]

How do you mean 'flattened'? As in someone drove a digger over them?

Hi Bobby Dazzler

You are fairly close in your description re the chargers but they look to me as if they have been hit by an old car.

 

[SpikyMikey]

Don't even mention the zombie apocalypse

 

[markjay]

I've got the generator primed and the shotgun loaded to repel looters.....

Watch out for Mel Gibson dragging a leg...

 

[SpikyMikey]

Watch out for Mel Gibson dragging a leg...

I'm too old for that sh..

 

[philnewmerc]

So at 0.34KWh per mile (a number I dug up as an average off the internet) that's basically 40p for 3 miles.

So currently diesel is at say £1.50 per litre in our area - which is (yikes!) £6.81 per gallon.

A decent diesel will better 60mpg so being conservative £6.81 for 60 miles - or ..... 34p for 3 miles.

ISTR that you made a comment about EVs always being cheaper .....

(Health Warning: I'm going to comment on EVs)

I worked out my CLS costs me 33p per mile. If I had an EV, and a cheap rate overnight charge, it'd be somewhere between 3p and 10p depending on who you believe regards mi/kWh, electricity rates, etc. Still staggering savings of about 2000 quid for me usually doing 21 mpg over 8000 mi. But, as you pointed out, theoretically one could choose a diesel doing 60 mpg, then the savings are pretty modest unless you're a company car driver or a bus. owner. Not sure why a private buyer would choose EV unless they were primarily environment conscious

 

[SpikyMikey]

(Health Warning: I'm going to comment on EVs)

I worked out my CLS costs me 33p per mile. If I had an EV, and a cheap rate overnight charge, it'd be somewhere between 3p and 10p depending on who you believe regards mi/kWh, electricity rates, etc. Still staggering savings of about 2000 quid for me usually doing 21 mpg over 8000 mi. But, as you pointed out, theoretically one could choose a diesel doing 60 mpg, then the savings are pretty modest unless you're a company car driver or a bus. owner. Not sure why a private buyer would choose EV unless they were primarily environment conscious

Loving the profile pic

 

[markjay]

I'm too old for that sh..

I meant the other famous Mel Gibson movie.....

 

[markjay]

(Health Warning: I'm going to comment on EVs)

I worked out my CLS costs me 33p per mile. If I had an EV, and a cheap rate overnight charge, it'd be somewhere between 3p and 10p depending on who you believe regards mi/kWh, electricity rates, etc. Still staggering savings of about 2000 quid for me usually doing 21 mpg over 8000 mi. But, as you pointed out, theoretically one could choose a diesel doing 60 mpg, then the savings are pretty modest unless you're a company car driver or a bus. owner. Not sure why a private buyer would choose EV unless they were primarily environment conscious

It has been raised before, the total cost of ownership involves additional parameters such maintenance, VED, congestion charging (where applicable), parking (where applicable), depreciation, etc.

Some of the parameters are unknown (depreciation), some vary based on circumstances (cost of electricity), some vary based on location (congestion charging and parking), and some are arbitrary and can change in future (taxation). And, of course, there's the annual mileage to consider.

So I didn't think that there's a one-size-fits-all answer to this question.

 

[markjay]

Forgot to add... my local Aldi offers free charging for EVs, they have three 40kW chargers onsite. Drop that into the mix, and the total cost of ownership becomes even more impossible to calculate or predict.

 

[st13phil]

Short answer to the OP's question: No, not at times of peak demand when the wind doesn't blow and the sun isn't shining.

Average demand vs maximum generation capacity are the oft-quoted metrics, but life doesn't work like that. We can barely cover the current need for peak energy demands at the moment, with the CEO of National Gas, saying that demand from gas-fired power stations would be “maxed out” from yesterday (Thursday) through much of the weekend. And then there's the not insignificant matter of the inadequate distribution network...

But Beaker (Ed Milliband) and the rest of the eco-zealot politicians continue to tell us that it'll all be fine, so everything's rosy in the garden.

 

[Bellow]

Forgot to add... my local Aldi offers free charging for EVs, they have three 40kW chargers onsite. Drop that into the mix, and the total cost of ownership becomes even more impossible to calculate or predict.

Fantastic! Probably the most impoverished shoppers (many too poor to own and run any car) subsidising the wealthiest. This is to be lamented - not celebrated.

 

[markjay]

Fantastic! Probably the most impoverished shoppers (many too poor to own and run any car) subsidising the wealthiest. This is to be lamented - not celebrated.

It's between Maida Vale and St John's Wood

Not really a poor area...

Most times there are either London black cabs or Uber drivers charging there.

The local population either didn't work out yet that it's free, or perhaps they are too posh to charge there...... no idea.