Hit & Run

[flango]

Ahem. Is that not what I said.

You are not required to inform the police if nobody is injured.

If there is damage to another vehicle you must either report it or exchange details with the other party, if the other party is not present you must report it within 24 hours.

SWMBO points me to Section 170 of the road traffic act LINKY

 

[Mozzer]

Section 170

R170 - spooky

 

[brucemillar]

If there is damage to another vehicle you must either report it or exchange details with the other party, if the other party is not present you must report it within 24 hours.

SWMBO points me to Section 170 of the road traffic act LINKY

Perhaps SWMBO would send LINKY to Kent Police, Morethan Insurance, Ageas Insurance, Kent Police Commissioner and the CPS and my Lawyer.

All of the above stated "no injury. Then it's a civil matter". There is no requirement to inform the Police.

Indeed as I posted on this forum. No injury and you report it the Police will take no action.

Or. As the Police explained to me. We get malicious calls every day telling us how X hit Y. Unless we have an injured party we will not investigate.

Still that's real life outside the law books.

 

[flango]

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Indeed as I posted on this forum. No injury and you report it the Police will take no action.

That is not true I know that for a fact. A lorry hit JSWMBO car whilst we were in it. Neither of us were injured I 999'd it straight away police stopped the lorry and arrested the driver for leaving the scene of an accident, they then impounded the lorry until the owning company e mailed all the insurance details to them which they passed to me. Driver appeared in court charged with leaving scene of an accident and driving without due care and attention.

You've just got yourself a lazy assed police force the law is quite clear on this

I obviously don't know your particular circumstances but they obviously can't be anything like the situations I am talking about

 

[brucemillar]

The OP referring to a car park ding. Try reporting that your car got dinged in xx car park but nobody was injured. Good luck with that one.

I have also reported on here with detailed updates. All involved say the same.

FYI. My guy has now also been charged. But that has taken a campaign and money from me that I will never recover.

 

[martin_a]

I reported a car park ding. Police went straight round to the chaps home and treated it as an RTA even though it was a Tesco car park.

He coughed up quick.

I appreciate you've had some issues bruce but david and flania are both very much correct.

would the police help you recover the damage? - no that is a civil matter but they should have checked out whether he was insured etc at the minimum. Your lot just couldn't be bothered

 

[flango]

The OP referring to a car park ding. Try reporting that your car got dinged in xx car park but nobody was injured. Good luck with that one.

I have also reported on here with detailed updates. All involved say the same.

FYI. My guy has now also been charged. But that has taken a campaign and money from me that I will never recover.

If my car had got dinged in a car park I wouldn't report it unless I had seen who did it. If I had seen who did it I would ensure the police comply with section 170 of the RTA If they didn't I would take out 2 lawsuits one against the police and one against the offender but fortunately I don't have to pay any fees for my legal actions.

If you took out a civil case against your guy could you not have claimed damages and costs from him so you weren't out of pocket?

I hate it when individuals suffer financially through others incompetence or actions

 

[brucemillar]

If my car had got dinged in a car park I wouldn't report it unless I had seen who did it. If I had seen who did it I would ensure the police comply with section 170 of the RTA If they didn't I would take out 2 lawsuits one against the police and one against the offender but fortunately I don't have to pay any fees for my legal actions.

If you took out a civil case against your guy could you not have claimed damages and costs from him so you weren't out of pocket?

I hate it when individuals suffer financially through others incompetence or actions

My guy will claim poverty and be ordered to pay me costs at 10p a week.

 

[flango]

My guy will claim poverty and be ordered to pay me costs at 10p a week.

I believe they are actually now looking at this as there have been a few instances of payment plans done with the clerk of the court when the offender has considerable assets. So they are looking at asset seizure/forfeiture as an alternative.

Hope yours get sorted and the offender pays

 

[jc1kz]

OP the way I see it ...is if you thought enough to leave the SLK owner the details of what you saw, then you really have to continue what you started and fill out the form and be prepared to witness in court if needed....otherwise why did you leave the note??? Do you really need a Thank You for doing what is right?... If you do, then I Thank You......

 

[Charles Morgan]

I believe they are actually now looking at this as there have been a few instances of payment plans done with the clerk of the court when the offender has considerable assets. So they are looking at asset seizure/forfeiture as an alternative.

Hope yours get sorted and the offender pays

I did find it entertaining that when fined for excessive speed at the beaks, I was asked how long I needed to pay the fine!

I'm up to £30 out of a total of £100 for some drunken vagrant smashing my glasses in an altercation 6 years ago.

Returning to the point of this thread, I witnessed a serious accident that caused a motorcyclist to end up in hospital with severe back injuries. I gave my details to the Police, wrote a statement when they contacted me, and gave every assistance to a court hearing that was moved twice, and finally the driver pleaded guilty the afternoon before - I assume because she realised there was no chance the case would fail to proceed. Did I get thanks from the injured party, or the Police, or the Court service - no. Doing your civic duty is thanks enough and is essential to a healthy society.

Give your statement, relay the facts absolutely as you see them, and move on.

 

[PXW]

Absolutely agree with other posters. Fill in the forms, be a convincing witness to what you saw - that's all that is required and is absolutely the right thing to do.

The SLK driver should perhaps have had the courtesy to call, or there may be valid reasons why he/she cannot - it could be a company car and the employer has instucted them to have no more to do with it; they could have a similar edict from their insurers, or from the police (pace brucemillar...), or a bloke in the pub might have told them that they can't contact you or else the court would see it as witness interference....who knows? But I don't think that a perceived slight such as that would prevent me from truthfully and fairly relaying to a court what I had seen.

 

[Alf Isty]

Agree with PXW. There could be a thousand and one reasons he did not contact you - shouldn't stop you from continuing to do the right thing.

I suspect that if you eventually meet the SLK driver he/she will be very grateful indeed.

 

[Stratman]

Not receiving thanks isn't a reason for not doing the right thing. You do the right thing because it's the right thing to do.

 

[Piff]

I would definatly follow through & fill in the forms/attend court if necessary.
I'm fed up with ars*holes who damage other cars (particularly supermarket carparks) & leave the scene

 

[219]

Is an underground carpark treated as the Highway for this purpose?

Yes , if there is unfettered vehicular access , RTA applies .

 

[bennesspipers]

You did the right thing leaving the details, please fill the form in, thankyou

 

[Dieselman]

The SLK owner has not had the courtesy to contact me with a quick phone call of appreciation or update.

What do you want, a medal.

Just do the right thing and tell the Police what you saw.

 

[Dieselman]

FYI. My guy has now also been charged. But that has taken a campaign and money from me. I will never recover.

You'll get over it one day Bruce.

 

[MD5]

The SLK owner has not had the courtesy to contact me with a quick phone call of appreciation or update. If I had not left details of the H&R, he/she would be faced with a potential repair bill well in excess of £1,000 or a loss of insurance NCB.
I still have a choice to make but it is now based on a poor perception of both Parties.

Surely by not contacting you, no-one can be accused of interfering with a witness or conspiracy, and your evidence (which is clear cut anyway) is unbiased and without prejudice. Who knows what gratitude they may have in mind after the case? I'd be very happy with a word of thanks, and you'd be grateful if the tables were turned.

I keep thinking of an old Andy Capp sketch, where he drunkenly crashes his pushbike into a parked car. Witnesses moved off after he left a note on the windscreen, which read "They think I'm leaving my details!!"