HONDA's HYDROGEN CAR

[Mudster]

There are some other problems with hydrogen.

Zee Germans were forced to use Hydrogen as America (the single largest producer of Helium) had placed an embargo on Helium sales to the fatherland, the safe and obvious choice for airships. This left zee Germans with the choice of constructing their own Helium production facility or filling the balloons with hydrogen at a far reduced cost. Seeing as these were fundamentally commercial (albeit luxury) services, cost won over safety.

Something to do with a disagreement with a small Austrian Chap with a comical moustache.

 

[hawk20]

Anyone know the latest position at MB. IIRC they have a fuel cell car and said it could be in production by 2012.

Can't help thinking there must be some hope for this technology or MB and Honda with access to all the experts you can imagine, would not be bothering.

BTW don't we put more energy into a power station than comes out of the plugs in our homes -due to huge transmission losses. We are prepared to pay extra and to lose some energy to have it where we want it.

 

[glojo]

I just cannot see the hydrogen powered vehicle ever being mass produced, certainly not in my lifetime and I doubt ever?

I still say it is absolute tosh to suggest fossil fuel is running out, tosh, tosh, tosh, a thousand times tosh. Saudi has now agreed to up its production of oil by about 6%, but most oil producers are happy with the supply\profits and don't see the need to increase production unless fuel prices remain where they are.

In the very early 1970's and designed in the 1960's the Apollo moon buggy had a small nuclear powered generator???? If we could make this a safe to use technology, then would that be the way forward?

regards
John the CND supporter

 

[grober]

You may have noted alternative fuels and climate change are inexorably linked.......

I would agree with you that this is undoubtedly the case at the present time. If you look the development of new technologies they are inevitably driven by military, socio-economic or political forces. Witness the formation and development of NASA as a direct result of the cold war "race for space". However the initial reasons for development of a technology should not overshadow its final significance and impact on human society.:bannana: I like to think that the people who are developing fuel cell technology are thinking a little further down the line than the price of derv at their local Tesco or the VED on their 4x4 even if this is what's partially driving their company's research at present. We've come a long way from the Leclanché cell to the Lithium Ion battery maybe portable fuel cells are next?

 

[verytalldave]

A recent study found that the average British Citizen walks about 900 miles in a year.
Another study found that Brits drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year.
That means, on average, us Brits get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Kind of makes you proud to be British.

 

[grober]

A recent study found that the average British Citizen walks about 900 miles in a year.
Another study found that Brits drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year.
That means, on average, us Brits get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Kind of makes you proud to be British.

I'm not drunk offissher------hic----- I'm a fuel cell!