Idiotic copper

[E55BOF]

What I understood by the query was that Lord-WYBManE220 was suggesting that it was possible that the OP might not have learnt to drive in the UK, and might not be entirely familiar with our driving laws, rules and conventions. I would have worded it differently, but to me the intent was clear.

Depressingly, it would appear that the OP DID learn to drive in the UK, and still drives like a plonker. Perhaps he will learn something from all this, but sadly, I doubt it....

 

[Simzy]

What I understood by the query was that Lord-WYBManE220 was suggesting that it was possible that the OP might not have learnt to drive in the UK, and might not be entirely familiar with our driving laws, rules and conventions. I would have worded it differently, but to me the intent was clear.

Depressingly, it would appear that the OP DID learn to drive in the UK, and still drives like a plonker. Perhaps he will learn something from all this, but sadly, I doubt it....

Ha ha

 

[Sp!ke]

Actually im wondering if someone else took the driving test on his behalf.

I've never heard of anyone who didnt study the highway code hard leading up to their driving test. Announcing as he did in a public forum not to have ever read it yet somehow have a license to drive is most odd.

 

[Lord-WYBMAnE220]

OK, well I've done a bit more reading of the early pages of this thread and I have ZERO sympathy for the OP.
He was clearly lane-hogging - unless the stop-cop was trying to cause him to have an accident (and I know which I believe).

Having conceded his error and moved to the appropriate lane, he then openly defies the copper by resuming his lane-hogging.
The copper reacts by pulling him over and shows him a video of his anti-social driving to disprove the OP's false claim to have been driving with care and consideration.

The OP concedes his second error and then comes on here insinuating that a copper who was encouraging an anti-social driver to drive more safely and considerately is a rabid bigot for doing his duty.
The real shame is that the OP wasn't prosecuted and made an example of for his anti-social belligerence.

 

[219]

Is there a law preventing me from driving in the third lane?

The lane furthest to the right is for overtaking only - you must move back out of it when you have finished overtaking , and should travel in the lane furthest to the left which allows your chose rate of progress .

The same speed limit applies in all lanes : there are no 'fast' or 'slow' lanes .

 

[219]

He wasn't breaking the law. The Highway Code is not a law.

The Highway Code is not in itself law , but a lot of what is contained in it is law , and it is full of references to the specific laws relevant to the rules contained in it .

Due to recent changes in legislation , poor lane discipline can now result in an instant fixed penalty notice , although it could always be dealt with anyway .

 

[Howard]

Actually im wondering if someone else took the driving test on his behalf.

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This used to be quite a regular occurance in some areas.

BTW , this surely has to be a contender for 'thread of the year' ?

 

[jotter22]

This used to be quite a regular occurance in some areas.

BTW , this surely has to be a contender for 'thread of the year' ?

No the o/p would see it as a victory given his attitude with in this thread!

Tony.

 

[Simzy]

This used to be quite a regular occurance in some areas.

BTW , this surely has to be a contender for 'thread of the year' ?

Yes but this thread is stopping other users getting advice on their car issues as quickly as usual I think..

 

[Lord-WYBMAnE220]

To my mind, lane-hogging is the definitive indicator of ineptitude.
Good driving requires a modicum of talent, intelligence and consideration.

A lack of proprioperception (awareness of your position and orientation in space) severely limits meaningful peripheral awareness ... and this is the fundamental problem for lane-hoggers.
Without an adequate dynamic model in the part of the brain that models the world in three dimensions, visuo-spatial capabilities are severely limited - and it's this that underpins the reluctance of lane-hoggers to change lane and explains their fondness for the middle lane ... the hogging of which creates fewest demands for lane-changing.

So, in a very real sense, driving is a much more demanding activity for these individuals - given which, it's a near-certainty that their poor conduct on the roads is less the result of inconsideration and belligerence than of a fundamental inability to meet the demands of driving.
Unfortunately however, that makes it no less tedious for other drivers who encounter them on the motorways.

 

[flango]

To my mind, lane-hogging is the definitive indicator of ineptitude.
Good driving requires a modicum of talent, intelligence and consideration.

A lack of proprioperception (awareness of your position and orientation in space) severely limits meaningful peripheral awareness ... and this is the fundamental problem for lane-hoggers.
Without an adequate dynamic model in the part of the brain that models the world in three dimensions, visuo-spatial capabilities are severely limited - and it's this that underpins the reluctance of lane-hoggers to change lane and explains their fondness for the middle lane ... the hogging of which creates fewest demands for lane-changing.

So, in a very real sense, driving is a much more demanding activity for these individuals - given which, it's a near-certainty that their poor conduct on the roads is less the result of inconsideration and belligerence than of a fundamental inability to meet the demands of driving.
Unfortunately however, that makes it no less tedious for other drivers who encounter them on the motorways.

That's one of the best posts I've read on this subject and driver behavior in general and reinforces my earlier point that not everyone is suited to driving.

 

[brucemillar]

A lack of proprioperception (awareness of your position and orientation in space) severely limits meaningful peripheral awareness

Very true. David Coulthard made almost the same comment regarding Romain Grosjean, when discussing his uncanny ability to collide with his fellow competitors in last seasons F1 races. Invariable this would happen to Grosjean in the fist few laps or after a pace car incident.

Coulthard (who was not being rude) said it was a known condition that can and does effect racing drivers. Where in effect they lose all spatial awareness due to the stresses of just driving in a race. He said that it was something that could be worked on. This years results would suggest that it has been worked on.

It is also true that most drivers consider their driving to be correct and simply cannot take on board that they may be in the wrong. They will defend their driving by pointing out "idiots" who undertake them on the motorway or try to go "too fast" when they are doing 50mph on a 70mph motorway.

You also see this off road. People who drive against the direction arrows in car parks, who will happily call you a banker as they career towards you.

Those who pull out of side streets into fast moving traffic then proceed to head off down the road at 10mph blissfully unaware of the queue of traffic that has just avoided a collision.

I hate the term "fast lane" or "slow lane"

"Cruising Lane" in Kent I think this refers to your sexual preference.

 

[Lord-WYBMAnE220]

Very true. David Coulthard made almost the same comment regarding Romain Grosjean, when discussing his uncanny ability to collide with his fellow competitors in last seasons F1 races. Invariable this would happen to Grosjean in the fist few laps or after a pace car incident.

Coulthard (who was not being rude) said it was a known condition that can and does effect racing drivers. Where in effect they lose all spatial awareness due to the stresses of just driving in a race.

Surprising in a seasoned race driver.
Gerhard Berger was another one (of several others) - though it's a while since I gave up on F1 (as anything resembling a sport).

 

[brucemillar]

What Coulthard was saying went along the lines of:

He knows they are there and very very close but then gets to a point where he can't compute what to do. In effect he is trying to over-think what to do. At this point he just carries doing what he was doing and drives to the scene of the accident.

 

[Deleted member 65149]

its actually disappointing that you have asked these question because a lot of people would have raised eyebrows from the questions asked. To me these questions are racist and just an excuse for you to show that you are a closet racist.

My wife came to this country from Mongolia 18 years ago when she only spoke less than a dozen words of English. She would have absolutely no problem answering questions about where she was from and how long she'd been here. She would certainly NOT consider such questions racist. That's because she doesn't have massive shoulders from carting a few tons of chips everywhere with her.

Despite my wife's initial lack of English, it was only a couple of years later that she took and passed her driving test first time. She struggled a little with some of the poorly worded questions in the theory test, but not enough to fail. Her success was in part due to many hours studying the Highway Code (with her trusty English-Mongolian dictionary always by her side).

My wife was stopped by the police a few years ago when she was doing nothing wrong. It was late at night and they wanted to ensure she hadn't been drinking - which she hadn't. She wasn't driving in a way that may have hinted that she had been drinking; it was just a routine check. Unlike the OP she didn't find it necessary to criticise them for doing their job. She certainly felt no need to accuse the police of being racist because they'd picked on her.

 

[Lord-WYBMAnE220]

Nobody with decency enjoys being accused of racism.
Those who regard racism as being acceptable tend to be the only ones to bandy about accusations of it - because they lack an appreciation of its offensiveness to others.

 

[Sp!ke]

I think I might be racist.

Would a disliking for those garlic smelling, cheese eating surrender monkeys on the other side of our channel mean that I am racist or is that OK?

 

[brucemillar]

Do you mean the Atlantic Chanel of the English Chanel?

 

[Lord-WYBMAnE220]

I think I might be racist.

Would a disliking for those garlic smelling, cheese eating surrender monkeys on the other side of our channel mean that I am racist or is that OK?

Hardly racist, old boy - it's a highly refined appreciation of the best the French have to offer.

 

[Sp!ke]

Do you mean the Atlantic Chanel of the English Chanel?

Actually now you mention it...