Idiotic copper

[Paul/]

All those who are Muslims do not drink.

All those who have a Muslim name are Muslims.

I have a Muslim name, therefore I do not drink.



Impeccable logic... except for the fact that the two first sentences are false.

Imagine similar argument made in a court of law... "Your honour, I agree that I was peeking through the fence while my neighbour sunbathed. However, I have a Christian name, so can not have possibly been coveting my neighbour's ass."

 

[brucemillar]

Imagine similar argument made in a court of law... "Your honour, I agree that I was peeking through the fence while my neighbour sunbathed. However, I have a Christian name, so can not have possibly been coveting my neighbour's ass."

You witnessed my trial??

 

[Dryce]

You witnessed my trial??

So it was you covetting my ....

 

[Paul/]

You witnessed my trial??

The highlight was the paramedic's evidence relating to a very unfortunate splinter injury.

 

[Deleted member 65149]

The OP may have a common Muslim surname like Khan which is easily identifiable.

Hang on, that's the bit that totally foxed me in the OP's original statement. Some people may think of Khan as a common Muslim name, but I certainly don't. For instance probably one of the most famous Khans was Genghis Khan. He embraced all religions and I've not seen any reference in any of the many books I've read about him that say he was Muslim. Neither was his equally famous grandson Kublai Khan who was emperor of the Yuan Dynasty in China. Are we to believe that all their ancestors became Muslims? Of course not. So let's not assume anyone's religion by their name. Especially let's not assume that a policeman could determine your religion by your name, nor that he'd have sufficient knowledge of that religion to know all the restrictions imposed by it.

The OP said that the police officer was "idiotic" for, amongst other things, not knowing that he didn't drink just because of his name. I'd say that the OP proved himself idiotic by adopting an attitude likely to aggravate.

 

[HB]

"Exceptions will always be there, but what percentage of Muslims actually drink alcohol or eat pork? I'm actually surprised at your comment of "so many". I've had many Muslim friends and so far, I've only met one who drinks alcohol, and he is an atheist, so not a Muslim in the true sense."

I simply cannot believe you have only come across 1muslim who drinks.

 

[big boss]

I simply cannot believe you have only come across 1muslim who drinks.

Shocking, isn't it? But it's true. My wife is a muslim. None of my in-laws or their friends / relatives drink alcohol or eat pork. A lot of my friends are muslims. I've lived in India where 17% of the population are muslims. But yes, I have seen only 1 muslim who drinks alcohol.

 

[E55BOF]

I work in a big office, with numerous Muslims. Several admit to drinking alcohol.

I'm more intrigued by " he is an atheist, so not a Muslim in the true sense". I would not have thought you could claim to be a believer in any deist/theist religion if you did not believe in (a) God.

E55BOF

 

[MD5]

The OP said that the police officer was "idiotic" for, amongst other things, not knowing that he didn't drink just because of his name./QUOTE]

I thought stereotyping was a bit of a no no?

 

[MOCAŠ]

I have a Christian name, so can not have possibly been coveting my neighbour's ass."

The highlight was the paramedic's evidence relating to a very unfortunate sphincter injury.

 

[markjay]

As a young lad, I travelled with a close friend to Germany, where we hired a car. Due to bad planning, we ended-up in Frankfurt late at night on the day before our flight back, with no hotel. There was a 'messe' (exhibition) in town that week and all the hotels were fully booked.

Being 'young and brave', we thought we'd sleep in the rental car at the airport, then in the morning hand it back and catch our flight.

I parked in front of Departures around 1am and my friend immediately fell sound asleep. I didn't manage to catch much sleep though.

At 7am a uniformed German police officer walked up to the car on the passenger side, bent down and peered inside, and on seeing my friend asleep tapped lightly on glass with his baton and signaled us to move on. Which I did, and thought nothing of it at the time.

However... my friend woke-up with a startle to see the German policeman tapping on the window with his baton, which gave him quite a fright. To this day - we still keep in touch - he describes the moment of terror when a Nazi officer attempted to adult him with a baton.

This is a true story - and the moral is that different people perceive the same events in completely different ways... beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and often so is offence.

 

[big boss]

I work in a big office, with numerous Muslims. Several admit to drinking alcohol.

Wow! That's news to me! Oh well, we always learn something.

I'm more intrigued by " he is an atheist, so not a Muslim in the true sense". I would not have thought you could claim to be a believer in any deist/theist religion if you did not believe in (a) God.

E55BOF

Exactly!

 

[Deleted member 37751]

I'm just trying to be fair on the OP, who is being accused of showing the religion card, which in my opinion, is not what the OP intended.

Does that not contradict the statement below? Once you mention a mitigating circumstance, you are 'playing the card'.

I can see where he's coming from, when he told the officer that he was a Muslim.

It's like me getting tugged and the policeman accusing me of speeding and my reply is "I'm from Yorkshire, therefore I'm too tight to waste petrol, so obviously I wasn't speeding"

The OP may have a common Muslim surname like Khan which is easily identifiable.

I know a Hindu with the surname Khan, pretty sure he's not a Muslim too.

 

[markjay]

....nor is Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[big boss]

Does that not contradict the statement below? Once you mention a mitigating circumstance, you are 'playing the card'.

It's like me getting tugged and the policeman accusing me of speeding and my reply is "I'm from Yorkshire, therefore I'm too tight to waste petrol, so obviously I wasn't speeding"


I know a Hindu with the surname Khan, pretty sure he's not a Muslim too.

No. Like the example I gave of my friend at Manchester Airport, officers can stop searching / checking for evidence of alcohol if told that their religion doesn't permit drinking. Entirely depends on the officer, and how the person said it.


A Hindu named Khan? Never ever heard of that. What's the full name? I'm a Hindu myself (well, actually an atheist). Is he / she an Indian with the surname Khan? 17% of Indian population is Muslim.

 

[big boss]

....nor is Barack Hussein Obama.

His father was a Muslim and mother, a Christian. Hence the middle name is Muslim. Obama chose Christianity.

 

[Deleted member 37751]

A Hindu named Khan? Never ever heard of that. What's the full name?

His name is Dave, but we call him Chaka.

 

[HB]

....nor is Barack Hussein Obama.

Get it right Mark

It's " Mubarack Hussein Obama "

 

[Ted]

Get it right Mark

It's " Mubarack Hussein Obama "

Must be happy with that name

 

[Deleted member 65149]

No. Like the example I gave of my friend at Manchester Airport, officers can stop searching / checking for evidence of alcohol if told that their religion doesn't permit drinking.

Ah, so that's how to smuggle whatever we want into the country. Just tell the customs officer that your religion doesn't permit drugs/guns/obscene material/counterfeit goods/etc and you won't get searched. I knew that HMRC had been getting a bit lax, but wasn't aware it had become as easy as this. Or are you suggesting that customs officers are now practicing positive discrimination and being less vigilant with people of certain religions?

Entirely depends on the officer, and how the person said it.

Now that bit you have got right.