Idiotic copper

[m1br]

his name is dave, but we call him chaka.

pmsl!

 

[big boss]

Ah, so that's how to smuggle whatever we want into the country. Just tell the customs officer that your religion doesn't permit drugs/guns/obscene material/counterfeit goods/etc and you won't get searched. I knew that HMRC had been getting a bit lax, but wasn't aware it had become as easy as this. Or are you suggesting that customs officers are now practicing positive discrimination and being less vigilant with people of certain religions?

Depends on how you want to look at it. I believe customs officers are trained to pick out decent people from smugglers. They randomly check bags of decent people who may not be aware of restrictions. If you honestly tell them you don't drink and so there's no reason for you to carry alcohol, they will let you go without checking. Of course, if they want to check you suspecting that you're smuggling, they will search your bag, no matter what you say to them. I see nothing wrong with that. If you're bent on looking at it in a discriminatory way, then my explanation won't help you.

 

[MOCAŠ]

If you honestly tell them you don't drink and so there's no reason for you to carry alcohol, they will let you go without checking.

This makes no sense, for various reasons:

• How do they know you're being honest about not drinking?
• Even if you don't drink (and they believe you), could you not be carrying alcohol for friends/family?
• And what about other contraband - should they not be searching for that as well?

If I were a Customs officer, I'd be rather suspicious of someone that tried that line on me. Why not just say "I'm not carrying any alcohol."? That would be much more straightforward. Choosing instead to give a reason why it wouldn't make sense for me to be carrying alcohol sounds like a confidence trick, leaving a get-out in the event that alcohol is actually found: "Well, I never said I didn't have any, just that I had no reason to have any."

Back to the OP: I'm amazed that he had the audacity to demand that the policeman explain why he had pulled him over before even getting out of his car. In my (limited) experience, it's normally the policeman that will ask the driver if they know why they've been pulled over, with the driver's response setting the tone for the rest of the encounter. Perhaps the OP needs to be taken down a peg or two...

 

[big boss]

This makes no sense, for various reasons:

• How do they know you're being honest about not drinking?
• Even if you don't drink (and they believe you), could you not be carrying alcohol for friends/family?
• And what about other contraband - should they not be searching for that as well?

If I were a Customs officer, I'd be rather suspicious of someone that tried that line on me. Why not just say "I'm not carrying any alcohol."? That would be much more straightforward. Choosing instead to give a reason why it wouldn't make sense for me to be carrying alcohol sounds like a confidence trick, leaving a get-out in the event that alcohol is actually found: "Well, I never said I didn't have any, just that I had no reason to have any."

Back to the OP: I'm amazed that he had the audacity to demand that the policeman explain why he had pulled him over before even getting out of his car. In my (limited) experience, it's normally the policeman that will ask the driver if they know why they've been pulled over, with the driver's response setting the tone for the rest of the encounter. Perhaps the OP needs to be taken down a peg or two...

As I said, the customs officers are trained to spot the genuine ones. Anyhow, I don't see any point in arguing about this. I only stated what actually happened at Manchester Airport with my friend in front of me.

 

[didi w203]

Do you know what guys/ girls...I think it's all gunna go pete tong. Look its easy..its either you hate the police and use the 'race' card or they hate you. Simples.

I had an incident back in 2009 when I was pulled over in my bmw as I had the Khanda sign on my number plate. After getting out of my car, that's after I made him ask me politely only then did HE SAY... "WHY IS YOUR MUSLIM BADGE ON THE NUMBER PLATES"? Yes he stopped me cos of my colour. Yes I went from nice to f**k you, you racist bast@rd, in his face. Got my ticket, made a complaint, all dealt with peacefully. All i said was just a few words of get your facts right before racially abusing me, and this was in Dorset. Yes I am Indian, well sikh to be precise. I drink on occasions, I smoke tobacco, eat meat, bacon, etc etc. Never have used my skin colour against the police..its them picking on me but I'm all legal now, so nowt to fret about.
To the OP, get a life! !!! Contradictions in ur story...empty road or busy? All because you hogged the middle lane. Should of got a fine in the post lol.
If anyone wants to pick on me, go ahead lol.

 

[didi w203]

Back to the OP: I'm amazed that he had the audacity to demand that the policeman explain why he had pulled him over before even getting out of his car. In my (limited) experience, it's normally the policeman that will ask the driver if they know why they've been pulled over, with the driver's response setting the tone for the rest of the encounter. Perhaps the OP needs to be taken down a peg or two...[/QUOTE]

That is correct. ^

 

[Deleted member 65149]

Do you know what guys/ girls...I think it's all gunna go pete tong. Look its easy..its either you hate the police and use the 'race' card or they hate you. Simples.

I had an incident back in 2009 when I was pulled over in my bmw as I had the Khanda sign on my number plate. After getting out of my car, that's after I made him ask me politely only then did HE SAY... "WHY IS YOUR MUSLIM BADGE ON THE NUMBER PLATES"? Yes he stopped me cos of my colour. Yes I went from nice to f**k you, you racist bast@rd, in his face.QUOTE]
The policeman pulled you over because your number plate was illegal (and perhaps other things about your car). SIMPLES. It had nothing to do with your colour. The sooner you can accept that not every action directed against you is because of your colour, and show the sort of respect you'd want to receive, the sooner we'll have to suffer less prejudice and race hate in this country.

 

[big boss]

back to the op: I'm amazed that he had the audacity to demand that the policeman explain why he had pulled him over before even getting out of his car. In my (limited) experience, it's normally the policeman that will ask the driver if they know why they've been pulled over, with the driver's response setting the tone for the rest of the encounter. Perhaps the op needs to be taken down a peg or two...

that is correct. ^

+2

 

[Deleted member 37751]

I had an incident back in 2009 when I was pulled over in my bmw as I had the Khanda sign on my number plate. After getting out of my car, that's after I made him ask me politely only then did HE SAY... "WHY IS YOUR MUSLIM BADGE ON THE NUMBER PLATES"? Yes he stopped me cos of my colour. Yes I went from nice to f**k you, you racist bast@rd, in his face. Got my ticket, made a complaint, all dealt with peacefully. All i said was just a few words of get your facts right before racially abusing me, and this was in Dorset. Yes I am Indian, well sikh to be precise. I drink on occasions, I smoke tobacco, eat meat, bacon, etc etc. Never have used my skin colour against the police..its them picking on me but I'm all legal now, so nowt to fret about.

I fail to see why the police officer was being 'racist' (religion isn't a race, by the way) because if anything, he was simply ignorant.

And you were driving a BMW, that was your first mistake!

 

[renault12ts]

With the police (and many of us to be fair) it's all about three things. In no particular order these are, attitude, attitude and finally, attitude. If you fail the first...you will probably fail the other two.

 

[didi w203]

I fail to see why the police officer was being 'racist' (religion isn't a race, by the way) because if anything, he was simply ignorant.

And you were driving a BMW, that was your first mistake!

Totally crap. He was ignorant. .why call me a MUSLIM? Why could he not ASK me what the symbol meant?

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Totally crap. He was ignorant. .why call me a MUSLIM? Why could he not ASK me what the symbol meant?

Religion is not a race, it's a belief, so mistaking a symbol isn't 'racist' it is ignorant.

Just like I said...

 

[didi w203]

Here in sunny weymouth I am one of 5 sikh persons living here. Then you got your bangladeshi who own curry houses. Lets put it this way...all my mates are white with handful of black. Even if I am in a friends car the police always stare at me even though I've done nowt wrong nor my friend, then for whatever reason my friend gets pulled over.. they say its just a routine check! B0ll0ck$. Do I go running to the police station and moan each and every time this happens NO. Do I call dorset police racist NO. Do I go slapping people about for calling me a paki in the town centre NO. Am I happy in life YES. Some people just dont want to believe that colour does come into every thing thst goes on in the world.

Ok lets play the colour card and get banned from here then, if that's how you want it. So bearing in mind I am NOT a racist.

Answer me this. Was jesus white??????


Forgot to mention I do have friends who are policemen in Dorset. and they agree it was racism!

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Answer me this. Was jesus white??????

So I'm told, although I find all religions a fairytale perpetuated to control the masses.

If you are getting tugged because of the colour of your skin, then that is 'racist' obviously and that's not right.

You seem content in your life though, so good on you.

 

[didi w203]

Forget to say I do have friends in the police here in Dorset. ..even they agree me being pulled over was racist.
Even the superintendent agreed and wrote a letter of apology. So you can believe what you want as I know being a different colour person in a town full of white folk scare em.

And one more thing I also know people in the EDL. Does that make me a racist??? Oh I hate muslims. LMFAO

 

[brucemillar]

Well when I got stopped on the M25 (see earlier posts) I was still (and always have been) Scottish. I do have a small saltire flag (legal) on my plates. Maybe the Police who stopped me were Jockists.

With regard to attitude (raised earlier). I think that the modern Policeman feels that he/she can operate to today's rules but demand yesterdays respect.

Years ago you not dream of answering back to the Police. But then they would not dream of being rude and aggressive for no obvious reason.

Today people have more liberation and feel more able to vent their feelings at anybody be the Police or not.

It still sounds to me like the OP encountered uncalled for rudeness whatever his alleged offense. If he has responded to that rudeness with some hostility then so be it.

I think most of us if confronted with rudeness would respond accordingly. Some Police officers (I suspect) know exactly that and work hard on "cause & effect".

Every Action Creates an Equal and Opposite Reaction. Basic physics.

Anyway to all you non- Jockists out there. Enjoy!!

 

[coupe deville]

Lets put it this way...all my mates are white with handful of black.

What you guys get up to in private down in Dorset is nobody else's business, but remember, once you go black, you'll never go back.

 

[MOCAŠ]

I think most of us if confronted with rudeness would respond accordingly.

Some of us were brought up to rise above it.

 

[didi w203]

Some of us were brought up to rise above it.

Correct^.

 

[brucemillar]

Some of us were brought up to rise above it.

Indeed. Some of them also get trampled on.

I am not suggesting that one bad deed deserves another. What I am saying is that if you tramp on somebody's head you should have reasonable expectation that they may choose to tramp on your head.

I was brought up to understand that "please and thank you cost you nothing" The policemen that stopped me had been brought up to a different code. One where shouting and screaming cost nothing.

I can still see his smug look at what must have been my obvious shock at his attitude. I would love to think that one day he will remember his actions when he wants my cooperation.