Near miss at heathrow terminal pickup

[ivandraganov]

Especially if they are in the boot and it is in reverse, as you would get run over trying to retrieve them.

Dieselman you put my smile back after having miserable day!Rocks!

 

[ivandraganov]

Especially if they are in the boot and it is in reverse, as you would get run over trying to retrieve them.

Especially when you're working under and forgotten to put wheel chocks:Hi well basically i changed the Thermostat in my 2006 c180k saloon and all went well until i was lowering the car down on my trolley jack using the front centre jack point and suddenly the jack slipped and the car came crashing down.

The jack slipped backwards and through the plastic undertray, and as far as i can see (without jacking the car up, i dont trust the jack no more) has snapped off a metal bracket with some pipes on it. I have searched the web and looked through haynes manual but can't find what these pipes are.

The coolant isn't leaking and the car drives fine.

first pic is of a c180 and second a diesel (mines petrol) taken from haynes manual



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[st13phil]

The W212 with Drive Select (i.e. the transmission selector on the steering column) automatically engages Park if you open the driver's door when stationery.

This means that you can stop while in Drive, use brake hold and take your foot off the brake pedal, and then if the driver's door is opened the transmission slips into Park and you remain stationery. However, for reasons best understood by the men in Stuttgart, if you stop while in Drive, use brake hold and take your foot off the brake pedal and then the passenger opens their door, brake hold is disengaged and the transmission remains in Drive.

Don't ask me how I know...

 

[Doe1000]

You guys are funny and hash.
My saving grace at terminal 5 was i was double parked and my pickup screamed that the car was rolling back
I won't be making that mistake again. Suddenly developed OCD.

 

[Rory]

Was picking a friend at the airport and in my excitement, double parked and put the car in reverse instead of park.
Got out the car, shut door and car was picking up speed in reverse. I just manage to make back into the car in time before disaster struck. Very close call!

Hmm... I never get out of the car without taking the key out. Apart from anything else, I have a fear that the car will self lock!

I wouldn't dream of leaving the keys in at somewhere like an airport though. In fact they changed the drop-off procedure at Liverpool Airport after a guy was killed when someone jumped into his Volvo and then ran him over as he tried to stop them.

 

[Rory]

However, for reasons best understood by the men in Stuttgart, if you stop while in Drive, use brake hold and take your foot off the brake pedal and then the passenger opens their door, brake hold is disengaged and the transmission remains in Drive.

Don't ask me how I know...

Are you warned about that? I don't understand how all those systems interact, but it seems potentially dangerous and I'm amazed Mercedes have allowed that to happen.

 

[artyman]

Presumably in these days of electronic gizmos, opening a door should automatically put it in Park, perhaps more useful than messages telling me I have two occupants using seat belts in the back!

 

[st13phil]

Are you warned about that? I don't understand how all those systems interact, but it seems potentially dangerous and I'm amazed Mercedes have allowed that to happen.

No, and Yes, in that order

 

[bennesspipers]

Potentially dangerous ? Back in the 1980s i used to drive Merc artics for a living, they all suffered from brake fade quite badly, then Merc brought out the Powerliners with EPS gearbox (short car type gear lever that worked by computer not brute force), the problem with this gearbox was if you 'asked' for a gear & the comp didnt like your choice it gave you neutral !!! Bad news if youre 40 tons going downhill wi fading brakes, eeeeeeeek ! Could bring you out in quite a sweat very quickly as my memory will never forget. They also had an exhaust brake, all that did was make a noise ! Too many gadgets Merc, that dont work !
Footnote, apparently before Merc launched the Powerliners they road tested several in Germany, one of them, loaded petrol tanker, crashed at the bottom of the hill & burnt out half of a small village, yet they STILL launched em for sale !

 

[asinrutee]

For those who don't know (my friend does know now!), "Hold" is just a driving aid to enable you to hold the car's position when stationery and the ignition on, saving you either having to apply the parking brake or blinding people behind with your brake lights

Brake lights stay on when 'Hold' is employed in mine

 

[ivandraganov]

Potentially dangerous ? Back in the 1980s i used to drive Merc artics for a living, they all suffered from brake fade quite badly, then Merc brought out the Powerliners with EPS gearbox (short car type gear lever that worked by computer not brute force), the problem with this gearbox was if you 'asked' for a gear & the comp didnt like your choice it gave you neutral !!! Bad news if youre 40 tons going downhill wi fading brakes, eeeeeeeek ! Could bring you out in quite a sweat very quickly as my memory will never forget. They also had an exhaust brake, all that did was make a noise ! Too many gadgets Merc, that dont work !
Footnote, apparently before Merc launched the Powerliners they road tested several in Germany, one of them, loaded petrol tanker, crashed at the bottom of the hill & burnt out half of a small village, yet they STILL launched em for sale !

That's was long time ago.The latest MB Actros is the best and safest truck in the world now better than the Scania and Volvo IMHO.I wish If only MB could have ditch that dangerous handbrake system on their cars .

 

[Dieselman]

That's was long time ago.The latest MB Actros is the best and safest truck in the world now better than the Scania and Volvo IMHO.I wish If only MB could have ditch that dangerous handbrake system on their cars .

I know someone who used to drive and work on these and he never passed that comment, He thought the electronic gearbox was good.

 

[ivandraganov]

I know someone who used to drive and work on these and he never passed that comment, He thought the electronic gearbox was good.

I think that EPS is good to,the question is getting used with it.

 

[sinewave]

I'd say potential fatal gearbox damage could result from electronics selecting park when a doors opened unless it ensures the vehicles speed is zero also as a condition?


What happens if a passenger is about to be violently sick and opens the door to Vom whilst the car is still doing 10 mph or so?

It's happened twice to me whilst driving, once with a bunch of mates coming back from a Stag night and my daughter did it also whilst I was coming to a gentle halt in the countryside.

 

[Dieselman]

I'd say potential fatal gearbox damage could result from electronics selecting park when a doors opened unless it ensures the vehicles speed is zero also as a condition?

Why?

The Park pawl and interlock teeth are shaped to allow the pawl to jump if the load is too great.

 

[richard]

The W212 with Drive Select (i.e. the transmission selector on the steering column) automatically engages Park if you open the driver's door when stationery.

This means that you can stop while in Drive, use brake hold and take your foot off the brake pedal, and then if the driver's door is opened the transmission slips into Park and you remain stationery. However, for reasons best understood by the men in Stuttgart, if you stop while in Drive, use brake hold and take your foot off the brake pedal and then the passenger opens their door, brake hold is disengaged and the transmission remains in Drive.

Don't ask me how I know...

Have you raised that with Mercedes - it sounds like a software error to me .... especially as it could cause an accident if passenger opens/closes door in a traffic jam, you'd lose the brake hold and roll into the car in-front

Richard

 

[st13phil]

Have you raised that with Mercedes - it sounds like a software error to me .... especially as it could cause an accident if passenger opens/closes door in a traffic jam, you'd lose the brake hold and roll into the car in-front

Interestingly, I think it was a software fault. I say "was" because I tried it again the other day and opening the passenger door no longer causes brake hold to disengage. I do know that the car had various software updates carried out when it was last serviced, so I suspect that was a bug that was fixed.

 

[JohnEclass]

Picture this.....before I bought a CLK had VW Jetta (now the wifes) its picked up in morning for a service, dropped off in afternoon after its snowed, the mechanic parks it on my drive and knocks on the door, as I open door hes chasing my car across the road......handbrake on but it slid off and into middle of road luckily I live on a quiet ish road and nothing was coming.

So how would insurance have seen that one?.....would it have been the dealers insurance or mine if it had hit something?....glad I did not need to find out!