New merc's security

[Diesel Benz]

I agree that "anything is possible" but if it asks more than a car is worth, or the cost of DAS3 related parts, it would not make sense and this much is expected from DAS.

Considering ordering new keys, even if one was able to order keys for the car, you cannot just put the new key in and drive away. It takes a while before the car accepts it, you would simply have to wait. Experts would know how long this would take.

 

[rf065]

To put all of this into perpective, when I grew up, it was common place for cars to be broken into or stolen. As time has passed, people first, and then manufacturers have taken steps to prevent this happening.

As a person, all you can do is make it more difficult for the thief in the hope that he will move on to another car. As the manufacturers have evolved their theft protection measures, i.e., Mercedes for instance, it is now easier to break into your house and steal your keys.

OK, in theory, no car is totally safe, but thiefs are mostly opportunists, they will break into your house and steal your keys, will hang about in winter time and steal a car left on the driveway to defrost while the owner goes back inside for a cup of tea, or, take it from a garage forecourt if the keys are left in while you pay for your fuel. There may be more ruthless and determined members of the criminal fraternity who could devise more extreme measures to get a car, but most are amatuers and opportunistic.

As an example, I have been fortunate enough to move into a private estate which has a lot of expensive cars. There are a couple of Bentleys, a Maserati, countless BMW's & Merc's, Jags, Range Rovers, Porche's and even a Vauxhall Monaro. It would appear to be a car thiefs dream, but since the estate was built a couple of years ago, there has only been one theft. A garage was broken into and a moped was stolen. I rest my case.

Russ

 

[glojo]

To get cars onto a flatbed is hard unless you force the gear shift lever out of park

I would think a straight lift would be the easiest and least conspicuous method. Any witnesses will simply think it is the local authority removing a badly parked car.

Uncle Jurgen's S600 has been reported in some media circles as being 'pushed' onto a flatbed, but we are talking about a car that must weigh very close to 3.5 tons, and I doubt even I could push this beast onto a flatbed.

regards
John

 

[DansSlk]

I agree that "anything is possible" but if it asks more than a car is worth, or the cost of DAS3 related parts, it would not make sense and this much is expected from DAS.

Considering ordering new keys, even if one was able to order keys for the car, you cannot just put the new key in and drive away. It takes a while before the car accepts it, you would simply have to wait. Experts would know how long this would take.

It doesn't take that long for the EIS to accept the key but you'd need a good key to begin with.

 

[gl boy]

as others have said save your money ..... both my cars do have trackers but for the saving on the insurance its not worth it i have them for my own peace of mind(the wives really)if its stolen its stolen

 

[DansSlk]

I would think a straight lift would be the easiest and least conspicuous method. Any witnesses will simply think it is the local authority removing a badly parked car.

Uncle Jurgen's S600 has been reported in some media circles as being 'pushed' onto a flatbed, but we are talking about a car that must weigh very close to 3.5 tons, and I doubt even I could push this beast onto a flatbed.

regards
John

John mate if you check out the linky i posted up for Malcolm you will see a very ingenious way of moving things that otherwise cannot be moved and its becoming more common to see this sort of method employed when stealing cars unfortunately.

 

[television]

That site; I have forgotten the meaning of high tech

Thanks Dan

 

[MBManInKen]

Well, I certainly have enjoyed reading this thread.

Many good points were made. My personal opinion is that security on a modern Mercedes has certainly become very advanced (thinking back at the keys of my W116 now, I used to demonstrate how I could open the door locks on that one with a 5 Frank coin ).

Of course, it's designed by humans, so it's not infallible and I'm sure that theoretically it can be broken. However, as some have hinted, criminals won't want to get themselves into a situation where it takes them longer than a brief moment to do the deed (no, not that deed, Grav ), it would expose them for too long. And I have never had the impression that the average criminal has an IQ of 240 either .

So, I do think that enhanced, and evolving, security makes sense. But of course, that will also lead to different ways of committing car crime, including car jackings and other ways of taking the car with the keys.

Just taking the car without the keys might actually not be that far fetched. Yes, they might not be able to start and drive it, but I remember a documentary on a gang stealing Mercs just so that they could dismantle them and sell the parts .

Anyway, carry on as you were - interesting discussion!

 

[DansSlk]

That site; I have forgotten the meaning of high tech

Thanks Dan

Its funny to think that our cars have more processing power in one control unit than the entire orbiter has to run everything.

As i was saying to John earlier its a very simple way for your average criminal to quickly get the car onto a truck without having to even unlock it.

I'm thinking about buying some anchors and wrapping the chain around the drive shaft, that'll stop 'em

 

[MBManInKen]

I'm thinking about buying some anchors and wrapping the chain around the drive shaft, that'll stop 'em

I just wish it was legal to put some decent current on the star and the door handles while locked .

 

[television]

Just thinking on this one, all the thieves have to do is to read the post on the forums "Help I have been locked out" and they will soon find the easy makes to steal.Hopefully this thread could put some more off stealing or cars

 

[DansSlk]

I just wish it was legal to put some decent current on the star and the door handles while locked .

You could always say it was a wiring fault

Just thinking on this one, all the thieves have to do is to read the post on the forums "Help I have been locked out" and they will soon find the easy makes to steal.Hopefully this thread could put some more off stealing or cars

I sure hope it will help put people off.

 

[glojo]

I just wish it was legal to put some decent current on the star and the door handles while locked .

Many a true word spoken in jest

Regards
John

 

[MBManInKen]

You could always say it was a wiring fault

I might need to make sure that the police officer doesn't spot the cable coming underneath the car and going to the wall socket .

Many a true word spoken in jest

Note to self: get keys off John before having a look at the stretched limo this Summer .