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But what right do those foreign residents have?

No idea - though the term 'modern slavery' has often been mentioned in relation to migrant workers in Gulf countries. I expect it varies - certainly Western professionals, engineers, doctors etc working over there are well-treated, but those from the subcontinent and the far East, possibly less so.
 
I certainly wouldn't want to be in Britain with <12% British people. (Cue calls of racism).

Technically speaking... that wouldn't be 'racism', instead it would be 'xenophobia'...... :D
 
The comfort that we can take on fuel is that stockpiling is limited to the fuel tank capacity of our 35 million vehicles. We won't see the toilet paper stockpiling of 2020 spread to larders full of 5 litre diesel cans.

Before covid kicked in the uk's combined annual consumption of petrol and diesel was 46.9 billion litres. I posted earlier that if you made the assumption that on average all vehicles now had an extra 20L in their tanks then the stockpiling amounts to 800 million litres which is a little under 2% of the annual consumption or 1 weeks supply. That's probably an underestimation for cars as it includes all vehicles and HGV have big tanks. I suspect the average car driver that has stockpiled has several weeks supply. The good news is that a few percent of annual consumption is not a large amount for the fuel distributors to recover from.

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Technically speaking... that wouldn't be 'racism', instead it would be 'xenophobia'...... :D
Or not really disliking people from other countries or races in the slightest, but wanting to preserve some national identity 👍
 
Before covid kicked in the uk's combined annual consumption of petrol and diesel was 46.9 billion litres. I posted earlier that if you made the assumption that on average all vehicles now had an extra 20L in their tanks then the stockpiling amounts to 800 million litres which is a little under 2% of the annual consumption or 1 weeks supply. That's probably an underestimation for cars as it includes all vehicles and HGV have big tanks. I suspect the average car driver that has stockpiled has several weeks supply.
Some have - not all of us have. Those who have, are sorted until.... beginning of November? Then what?

The good news is that a few percent of annual consumption is not a large amount for the fuel distributors to recover from.
What we don't know is if HGV drivers qualified to deliver fuel won't be tempted to drive for retailers in the run-up to christmas. For sure retailers want their shelves stocked and while a fuel qualified driver can crossover to retail, a retail driver cannot so easily crossover to fuel delivery. Presumably, the same qualifications are required to deliver domestic heating oil as road fuel.

Newly qualified (Class 1) drivers will be available soon but it seems there will be a reluctance by hauliers to employ them unexperienced as they are. I guess they have to insure their drivers and if the haulage insurance market is anything like it is for newly qualified drivers....
Rising haulage costs will not be welcomed by other businesses.
 
Scroll back to the picture of the S203 with six 20 litre jerry cans lined up the boot ...
Understood. My point was the generalisation that most won't stockpile diesel and petrol.

It's not like toilet paper which was being stockpiled by people who didn't realise that we make it in the UK.
 
Before covid kicked in the uk's combined annual consumption of petrol and diesel was 46.9 billion litres. I posted earlier that if you made the assumption that on average all vehicles now had an extra 20L in their tanks then the stockpiling amounts to 800 million litres which is a little under 2% of the annual consumption or 1 weeks supply. That's probably an underestimation for cars as it includes all vehicles and HGV have big tanks. I suspect the average car driver that has stockpiled has several weeks supply. The good news is that a few percent of annual consumption is not a large amount for the fuel distributors to recover from.

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In addition to your very well made point, the industry is more than capable of handling peak periods within the year. Only an idjit would think that an industry capable of distributing a billion litres a week would be disrupted by a spot of panic buying.

By definition that industry is already set up to handle serious disruptions in supply: outages at refinery, national strikes, warfare, terrorist attacks, you name it.

This PR campaign by the Hauliers' Association doesn't rank so much as a sniffle.

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Hi , I normally let the fuel gauge in my in car to fall to 1/4 full and then fill up.

Well my car now has 3/4 tank of fuel in tank and I cannot go anywhere.

I am an OAP and generally walk in round our town to keep me fit and only drive long distances.

I am meant to be going to London this week end but fat chance now I cannot get home and don't want to run out petrol in the middle of
night.
 
Hi , I normally let the fuel gauge in my in car to fall to 1/4 full and then fill up.

Well my car now has 3/4 tank of fuel in tank and I cannot go anywhere.

I am an OAP and generally walk in round our town to keep me fit and only drive long distances.

I am meant to be going to London this week end but fat chance now I cannot get home and don't want to run out petrol in the middle of
night.
If you drive to London running out of fuel might be the least of your problems . You might be unlucky and find your path blocked by a bunch of idiots who have glued themselves to the road in front of you.

But word is they have Manchester in their sights...good luck with that...
 
If you drive to London running out of fuel might be the least of your problems . You might be unlucky and find your path blocked by a bunch of idiots who have glued themselves to the road in front of you.

But word is they have Manchester in their sights...good luck with that...
Those idiots will get a proper pasting off the young lads in Manchester if they spoil the M60 racing circuit.
 
For those with Facebook access, have a laugh looking at the latest candidates for the Darwin Awards here:


Some great dashcam shots of garage forecourt f**kwttery.
 
For those with Facebook access, have a laugh looking at the latest candidates for the Darwin Awards here:


Some great dashcam shots of garage forecourt f**kwttery.
No FB, but can still view!

The woman emptying bottles of water to fill them with petrol is fcuking genius 🤣🤣🤣
 
It get better - scroll down to the 25th September and watch the total twonk trying to fill a plastic bag.....
 
I hear that there are now calls from the BMA and others for doctors, nurses and other "key workers" to have prioritised access to fuel. Great idea :rolleyes:

Does no-one in this country have the ability to either remember past experience or to think things through?

Last time this was done (the fuel shortage in 2000), health workers were given priority access to fuel yet hospitals and other healthcare settings came close to collapse through lack of staff. Why? A huge proportion of their "front line" staff were at home looking after their kids who would normally have been at school but weren't because schools were closed as teachers couldn't get to work because they had no access to fuel...

As H L Mencken said, "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong".
 
For those with Facebook access, have a laugh looking at the latest candidates for the Darwin Awards here:


Some great dashcam shots of garage forecourt f**kwttery.
Why bother with exams at school to assess someone’s intellect and aptitude when you can just have a spell of panic buying every now and then
 
We were down to 35 miles range last night so tried to get fuel at 7:45PM. Shell garage had unleaded but wouldn't let us in as they were closing at 8PM?! Big Morrisons nearby had no fuel - those are the only two garages in the area (and a 10 mile round trip from our house ...). Back at 8:15AM today - the Shell garage now had no fuel ?! but we managed to fill up at Morrisons after queuing for 15 mins to get in. Really thought things would be more normal by now.
 
Heston no fuel, Beaconsfield no diesel, at 14:00 today. I get the impression that London and the South-East are worst affected, so presumably more of the stupidest sheep live down here than in other parts of the country.
I heard on the radio that London in particular simply does not have enough filling stations - much more profitable to put a block of houses or another coffee shop/convenience store/subway up?
 
Have the seen the latest conspiracy theory on Facebook? Appears there was a stockpile of fuel cased by low usage so the government caused a panic deliberately to get rid of it before it degraded.

Words fail me.........
 

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