Remembers to Give Way

[WDB124066]

He passed the lorry on the inside, so could have just dropped in behind it.

As already said, he was the author of his own downfall.

There was another truck behind him in the convoy, you can see it in the clip green cab, white load protector, all three of them, maybe more up front, were at it AFAIC.

Any lorry drivers here...?

 

[Dieselman]

There was another truck behind him in the convoy, you can see it in the clip green cab, white load protector, all three of them, maybe more up front, were at it AFAIC.

I never get these problems and drive crowded motorways every day.

 

[renault12ts]

There was another truck behind him in the convoy, you can see it in the clip green cab, white load protector, all three of them, maybe more up front, were at it AFAIC.

Any lorry drivers here...?

You must have a different video from me...the green cab lorry is in the second from left lane (appears at 30 secs)...not the near left one...look again...carefully.

 

[WDB124066]

Yes he has changed lanes because the lorry in front has had to slow because he's picked up a car...

 

[renault12ts]

yes he has changed lanes because the lorry in front has had to slow because he's picked up a car...

...good come back:d

 

[markjay]

He passed the lorry on the inside, so could have just dropped in behind it...

He most certainly could, and in fact had the legal obligation to do so.

The lorry driver could have arguably just dropped behind and let the car merge, but he had no legal obligation to do so.

My view is that - assuming tbe lorry driver did spot the Civic - then to paraphrase on Michael Burke's recent comment, neither come out of this with any credit.

 

[WDB124066]

I honestly think this is what's happened and the investigation, if there was one, may have missed this...??

I don't know about you guys up there but I feel grossly uncomfortable approaching merge lanes in the slow lane. I avoid that lane altogether, tell myself it is for those getting on and off and for getting up to speed - that's all.

 

[renault12ts]

I honestly think this is what's happened and the investigation, if there was one, may have missed this...??

I don't know about you guys up there but I feel grossly uncomfortable approaching merge lanes in the slow lane. I avoid that lane altogether, tell myself it is for those getting on and off and for getting up to speed - that's all.

Oh dear...we have a middle lane hogger in our midst.

 

[Dieselman]

You must have a different video from me...the green cab lorry is in the second from left lane (appears at 30 secs)...not the near left one...look again...carefully.

As a result of your post I have watched the video again and note two points.

1. There was sufficient gap for the undertaking Civic to pull into
2. the Civic was ahead and in the gap, but then slowed down just enough for the rear of the car to be caught by the lorry bumper.

How anyone can even attempt to waste time arguing this "could" be the lorry drivers fault, is beyond me.

When did MBClub become the Old Farts debating society?

A nominal charge for wasted bandwidth would soon sort this rubbish out.

 

[Dieselman]

I honestly think this is what's happened and the investigation, if there was one, may have missed this...??

I don't know about you guys up there but I feel grossly uncomfortable approaching merge lanes in the slow lane. I avoid that lane altogether, tell myself it is for those getting on and off and for getting up to speed - that's all.

What an admission, that you can't handle the pressure of driving on motorways.

 

[renault12ts]

All he had to do was approach the lead lorry and pull in, the gap was easily three cars length, not entertain anything to do with the lorry he inconvenienced.

 

[John]

All he had to do was approach the lead lorry and pull in, the gap was easily three cars length, not entertain anything to do with the lorry he inconvenienced.

This is what I really don't get.

Forgetting everything else - why on Earth did he make such a pig's ear of such an easy manoeuvre.

Unless he had a medical episode or sudden amnesia, the only other explanation I can think of was he wanted an insurance pay out for whiplash etc. or to make a point which failed.

 

[meeeb]

I think the driver panicked when he realised the only way he was going to get onto the Mway was to stop dead in his tracks, that made him press the issue , and it went downhill from there....

The car driver's brain and skill level couldn't cater for what to do if everyone on the main carriageway didn't shift, or adjust speed to let him on. Top and bottom of it is he made no preparation, no finding a slot, no matching speed, bugger all in fact.

As I said earlier, there's a big training issue here.

 

[Dieselman]

This is what I really don't get.

Forgetting everything else - why on Earth did he make such a pig's ear of such an easy manoeuvre.

Unless he had a medical episode or sudden amnesia, the only other explanation I can think of was he wanted an insurance pay out for whiplash etc. or to make a point which failed.

You are forgetting he drives a Civic...so probably has dementia.

 

[s88]

This happens frequently and often sets the rest of us up for an accident; the person is going too slow to join the traffic. 60 is no speed to be joining a motorway but sadly some people think it is fast enough.

 

[John]

This happens frequently and often sets the rest of us up for an accident; the person is going too slow to join the traffic. 60 is no speed to be joining a motorway but sadly some people think it is fast enough.

I often find I am behind someone who poodles up to the motorway. I'm not expecting them to have the same performance as me but I do expect them to make the effort to get up to the speed of the traffic on the motorway they are about to join.

 

[renault12ts]

This happens frequently and often sets the rest of us up for an accident; the person is going too slow to join the traffic. 60 is no speed to be joining a motorway but sadly some people think it is fast enough.

And in the video the lorry is only doing 82kph (51mph) when the car tries to drive him off the road.

 

[dozypillock]

Nobody seems to have mentioned the "safe"? alternative way of joining a motorway.
At start of sliproad, floor accelerator until doing at least 100MPH so everything will be slower. Aim for gaps in traffic and launch oneself immediately into outside lane, then slow down to match the 85mph fixed speed traffic for rest of journey.
When the time comes to exit motorway, repeat procedure, making sure there is at least 3 inches of lane/zevrons left before cutting across the car in the way.
I see this lot's, so it must be the safer/preferred way?

Neil

 

[WDB124066]

What an admission, that you can't handle the pressure of driving on motorways.

They are awful when they get full. I stay away. An absolute swirling mass of metal piloted by learners, drug addicts and the cognisant deficient types, I find them terrible especially in a car I've sunk so much money into. I dread a del320 type of incident.

And 21, I've never hogged a lane in my life. If ever anyone comes up behind me I'm pulling over to let them through - can't help it, I hate people who come up behind me and sit there. Single lane, duel lane, what ever, it's what happens. And, in NZL of course, you are permitted to overtake on the left. But never let an opportunity to sock someone on here pass you by.

 

[artyman]

The vehicle joining has the obligation to fit in, not the other way round. Having said that I try to accommodate people joining by slight speed adjustment or anticipating the event and moving into the middle lane to create space, it's called consideration. Perhaps more of it should be exercised on the roads. In this instance I suspect that the lorry driver couldn't even see him or at least didn't suspect such a suicidal manoeuvre.