Replacement Tyres - Michelin Pilot Sport 4S or ?

[Deleted member 126251]

Pirelli do have a poor reputation on this forum, especially with AMG owners, but I’ve found them to be great and perform well. Maybe it’s a size specific probllem because E classes seem to be mentioned most.

I did once have a very slight high frequency vibration - which I could sometimes feel through the steering wheel - shortly after fitting a new set of Pirelli tyres which was difficult to pin point and got worse over time.

The tyre fitter and main dealer couldn’t find the cause of the vibration, but the tyre fitter or their distributor spoke to Pirelli and they said that if the tyres were returned to them then they’d check them over.

I had both front tyres replaced at my cost. Within a day or two they sent me a cheque for the full value of the both tyres. I doubt they checked, and just wanted to elimate the risk of someone trying it on for cash back.

I thought it was generous because I had covered thousands of miles in the meantime, and they covered the full cost of both tyres if I remember right. Yes there was a fault but they dealt with it well.

How do you find them (Pirelli) for wear? I’m 18k in and the rears are going to need replacing soon.

 

[Gazwould]

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[Bobby Dazzler]

How do you find them (Pirelli) for wear? I’m 18k in and the rears are going to need replacing soon.

Variable: AO (Audi) spec Pzeros cover twice the distance as MO spec equivalent in my size. I think 26k miles was the most I managed, with 13k miles being the least.

 

[Skd884]

 

[Red C220]

On my SL I had P zeros from factory. Once I had a remap the car was a liability, even part throttle pulling out of a junction it wanted to throw me in a hedge.

An old school friend of mine owns a tyre buisness so I always go to him for advice - which was PS4S. Unfortunately they didn't import them into the UK in one of the sizes I needed (rears) so we chose Pilot SuperSports, effectvely the predecessor to the PS4S. It transformed my car and made it completely predictable.

One thing he did say though was P Zeros are not all the same - they've been modifying the compound for a while without clearly markeing them as another generation so you'll often think you're buying the same tyre - 12 or 24 months apart, but they are in fact different.

I'll try those new conti's next change though, they look good - if I can get the sizes. 295 SL rears seem to be a bit of an oddity.

 

[Red C220]

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Two years ago when he posted that he was right....two years is a lot in tyre development time. Things move on.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Variable: AO (Audi) spec Pzeros cover twice the distance as MO spec equivalent in my size. I think 26k miles was the most I managed, with 13k miles being the least.

I had directional Pirelli tyres on my SLK 350 (r172) and I seem to recall getting really good miles from them - was still on my second set when I sold it at about ~50k miles and I thrashed that car. However, it is a lot lighter.

 

[GillyC63]

I have MP4S on my mapped M4, 285/30/20 on the rear, 265/30/20 front & I'm not too impressed with them tbh, quite noisy and in slightly damp conditions they lose grip easily. I had GY Eagle on my mapped C63 and I preferred them. I don't know if the fact they were 19's made a difference.

 

[E55BOF]

I've just ordered a pair of Goodyear Asymmetric 6s for the SLK from Asda; fitting tomorrow three miles away, not only £20 the pair cheaper than TyresOnTheDrive, who I have normally used (and who have to make a profit, so fair enough) but there's an offer on and I receive a £20 gift card as well. Good deal; I'd never heard of Asda Tyres until someone mentioned them on here, so if you read this, thank you very much.

I was surprised to see Asda also have Asymmetric 2s on the website, though. I'd have thought they would have gone out of production years ago, but they are still on the Goodyear website's list too.

 

[RJ C63]

Has anyone tried the new Continental Sport Contact 7?

 

[Gazwould]

Continental SportContact 7

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[Deleted member 126251]

Continental SportContact 7

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They only show front wheels for me - they do look good.

 

[Jobsworth]

I’m stuck with some P zero on the front of my C63 at the moment because they were all I could get at the time, and I needed them same-day. The main issue is feel on turn in. It isn’t consistent, and occasionally on some road surfaces feels like you’ve touched a patch of ice. The PS4’s that were on it before weren’t like this, and nothing else has changed. I’m going to bin them soon, regardless of the fact there’s loads left on them. They are spoiling my enjoyment of the car

 

[AMGeed]

I’m stuck with some P zero on the front of my C63 at the moment because they were all I could get at the time, and I needed them same-day. The main issue is feel on turn in. It isn’t consistent, and occasionally on some road surfaces feels like you’ve touched a patch of ice. The PS4’s that were on it before weren’t like this, and nothing else has changed. I’m going to bin them soon, regardless of the fact there’s loads left on them. They are spoiling my enjoyment of the car

I don't push my E63 to the limits that warrant changing the P Zeros I currently have on the front. They just don't want to wear out.
When I had them on the rear, as soon as the temperature dropped, so did the grip. The back stepped out on a damp roundabout and they had to go.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

I don't push my E63 to the limits that warrant changing the P Zeros I currently have on the front. They just don't want to wear out.
When I had them on the rear, as soon as the temperature dropped, so did the grip. The back stepped out on a damp roundabout and they had to go.

Mmm know that feeling - went round a sharp left hander and got sideways. A tree at the side of the road was shading it and there was an ice patch as I rounded the bend . The ESP works very well and it was a new learning moment. Look out for shaded spots on the road - it might still be icy.

 

[Doodle]

My personal preferred tyre of choice for road use in Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S however noticing the difference between it and a similar tyre from another brand would be beyond my capability.

You say that, but on the Cupra the difference between PS4S and Goodyear Supersports is tangible without even trying, just from bimbling around town. I can only assume it's a function of the specific weight and geometry but the Michelins feel less taut and precise. I wouldn't expect the same results on an E63, for example.

Found this out entirely by accident, needed 2 pairs of tyres a few weeks apart and the PS4S were no longer on offer, so put on Supersports instead.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

You say that, but on the Cupra the difference between PS4S and Goodyear Supersports is tangible without even trying, just from bimbling around town. I can only assume it's a function of the specific weight and geometry but the Michelins feel less taut and precise. I wouldn't expect the same results on an E63, for example.

Found this out entirely by accident, needed 2 pairs of tyres a few weeks apart and the PS4S were no longer on offer, so put on Supersports instead.

This implies that your tyre choice is based on price (best deal on a quality tyre) and not performance or will you now stick to Goodyears even if you can get cheaper Michelins?

 

[Crispian22]

Have exactly the same decision to make with my ML63,it came with a brand new set of P zero's all round,but after less than 9k miles in the last 15 months,I need rears already,the fronts are hardly worn at all.

I think I read somewhere about different compounds for the same tyre,so would I be able to put a harder compound of the same tyre on perhaps or go with a different tyre altogether?

 

[Deleted member 126251]

Have exactly the same decision to make with my ML63,it came with a brand new set of P zero's all round,but after less than 9k miles in the last 15 months,I need rears already,the fronts are hardly worn at all.

I think I read somewhere about different compounds for the same tyre,so would I be able to put a harder compound of the same tyre on perhaps or go with a different tyre altogether?

All things being equal, harder compounds will last longer but grip & braking distance will probably be worse.

Experts will weigh in here but I don’t believe that you can order the same tyre with different compounds. The “performance” tyres will generally have softer compounds and generally not last as long as “ordinary” tyres.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Have exactly the same decision to make with my ML63,it came with a brand new set of P zero's all round,but after less than 9k miles in the last 15 months,I need rears already,the fronts are hardly worn at all.

I think I read somewhere about different compounds for the same tyre,so would I be able to put a harder compound of the same tyre on perhaps or go with a different tyre altogether?

Are the rears wearing evenly? Tyres on the front and rear axles wear at a similar rate on both of ours.

After having Pirelli summer tyres on both for many years, I’ve switched to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on one, and they’re been good - they’re noisy though, and they pick up grit very easily.

If you stick with Pzeros I find that AO Audi “spec” last longer.