Running in C63

[C60three]

Can Mercedes really tell if the car has been run in correctly by reading the ECU? If it does it store this information, surely they could tell if it had remapped, even if I returned it back to 'stock'?


Please don't answer if you don't know for sure as I'm keen to get a definitive answer rather than speculation
Many thanks in advance

 

[flango]

Yes you can tell the speeds and revs it has been run at from the ECU and yes you can tell if it has been remapped. We used to provide specialist services like this to dealers and Insurance companies.

 

[ScottBacon]

Yes you can tell the speeds and revs it has been run at from the ECU and yes you can tell if it has been remapped. We used to provide specialist services like this to dealers and Insurance companies.

Isnt it the case that you can only tell, however, if the manufacturers limitations have been overwritten i.e. if the redline limiter was removed, if the max speed has been de-restricted ? Otherwise they would be none the wiser

 

[C60three]

Isnt it the case that you can only tell, however, if the manufacturers limitations have been overwritten i.e. if the redline limiter was removed, if the max speed has been de-restricted ? Otherwise they would be none the wiser

I'm not sure Acid says that they can't tell...

 

[flango]

Isnt it the case that you can only tell, however, if the manufacturers limitations have been overwritten i.e. if the redline limiter was removed, if the max speed has been de-restricted ? Otherwise they would be none the wiser

No you can tell what the peak revs, speed etc were and the exact date and time it was done, no remap is undetectable you can always tell if an ecu has been altered, even if you reload the original stock map, also I don't think the data for peak revs, speed etc is on the main ecu its in a separate location, will have to talk to the guy that used to map and interrogate for us he will know where and how its held for sure.

 

[flango]

I'm not sure Acid says that they can't tell...

I don't think they would ever check, why would they look the worst is they would flash the ecu with the latest software on a service which would put ti back to stock. They may check if there was a warranty claim though, we used to get a lot of those from Porsche

 

[C60three]

I don't think they would ever check, why would they look the worst is they would flash the ecu with the latest software on a service which would put ti back to stock. They may check if there was a warranty claim though, we used to get a lot of those from Porsche

I am just worried that if something went bang and I tried to make a warranty claim.

 

[C60three]

No you can tell what the peak revs, speed etc were and the exact date and time it was done, no remap is undetectable you can always tell if an ecu has been altered, even if you reload the original stock map, also I don't think the data for peak revs, speed etc is on the main ecu its in a separate location, will have to talk to the guy that used to map and interrogate for us he will know where and how its held for sure.

Looks like I may have to follow the running in protocol

 

[flango]

Looks like I may have to follow the running in protocol

FWIW don't agree with the running in protocol, when did race teams ever run an engine in, all a load of tosh IMHO but I understand your concern if things were to go bang

 

[Simon_M]

Probably best for the car....

 

[Cyclone1]

Don't most ECU's have counters that track when a parameter has been altered? This us normally what is checked. However if the counter can be reset, of which most can, then this would normally mean no further investigation is carried out.

 

[sunny_amg]

When software is altered, there is always a way to find out...............

Best to leave it stock as Mercedes might have a problem with Warranty claims..........my 2 cents worth.

 

[moff]

They won't look.

I would predict that the majority of owners don't run their cars in.

I took it easy for 200-300 miles than gradually eased up to full throttle and redlines over the next 500 or so miles.

It's not just the engine that you are running in, it's the brakes, gearbox, suspension, and all other moving parts.

 

[moff]

FWIW don't agree with the running in protocol, when did race teams ever run an engine in, all a load of tosh IMHO but I understand your concern if things were to go bang

I agree.

Not only that, when have Mercedes ever 'ran in' a demonstrator?

I drove the A45 on launch and it had 200 miles on the clock, I asked about revving and they told me to redline it.

The same thing will happen with every press car, demonstrator etc

 

[John Jones Jr]

FWIW don't agree with the running in protocol, when did race teams ever run an engine in, all a load of tosh IMHO but I understand your concern if things were to go bang

I think it's tosh too. And never heard of an engine problem due lack or suspected lack of running in. Might have been a wise precaution when manufacturing tolerances and engine oils were less well engineered decades ago.

 

[developer]

If I bought new or leased new and there was a manufacturer recommended running in procedure, I'd follow it religiously.

It's there for a reason.

Why wouldn't you?

 

[John Jones Jr]

If I bought new or leased new and there was a manufacturer recommended running in procedure, I'd follow it religiously.

It's there for a reason.

Why wouldn't you?

Fair point, and why not if it's recommended it can't do any harm.

 

[Pilotprice]

'Coz baller

 

[developer]

'Coz baller

Yeah...

 

[H20 MRV]

So when is the first oil change then? 1000 miles?