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Whilst category C and D were replaced with the new system with S and N, they are definitely not the same thing.
C and D were determined by repair costs, not structural or non-structural damage.
S and N are structural and non-structural definitions.
There is a difference
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S and C are EXACTLY the same thing. S replaced C and N replaced D (Structural and Non structural) to make it easier for people to understand....clearly not working!!!
The values decide if its written off or not (based not only on repair costs but the scrap value of the car...which means that not many cars with repair cost of over 60 to 70% get repaired)....but NOT what category the write of is....that's down to the amount of damage sustained.
Category A (unchanged)
Scrap only. For cars so badly damaged they should be crushed and never re-appear on the road. Even salvageable parts must be destroyed.Category B (unchanged)
Body shell should be crushed. Signifies extensive damage, although some parts are salvageable.Should never re-appear on road, although reclaimed parts can be used in other road-going vehicles.
Category S (formerly Category C)
The new Category S means the vehicle has suffered structural damage.This could include a bent or twisted chassis, or a crumple zone that has collapsed in a crash.
Category S damage is more than just cosmetic, therefore, and the vehicle will need to be professionally repaired.
Also, it won’t be safe to drive until then.
Category N (formerly Category D)
Vehicles graded accordingly haven’t sustained structural damage, so the issue may be cosmetic, or a problem with the electrics that isn’t economical to repair.
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Clearly not…
Have you actually any idea what you’re talking about?
Category C and D refer to the cost of repair at the time of the claim, not whether the damage was structural or not.
I suggest you re-read your first sentence and do some homework on this
C and D have been discontinued and replaced with S and N, but they are not the same.
The lack of understanding about this as demonstrated on here is no doubt why they made this change.
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What would I know?...i only worked at a main dealer for 15 years...18 months of which was in our body shop. I didn't write the category definitions above....its from the insurance claims help website!!!
NO....you are wrong!!! Cat S HAS SUSTAINED STRUCTURAL DAMGE!! The S actually stands for structural!!!! The only rare exception is if a car is stolen and recovered they might write it of as S (structural damage) even if it has not damaged at all as they can never be sure how the car was treated and how much abuse the body had taken....might have been jumped etc......but that does not happen often.
Where have I said that category S has not sustained structural damage?
Have you mistaken my posts for someone else’s?
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See your quote in my last post....
"Category C and D refer to the cost of repair at the time of the claim, not whether the damage was structural or not."
C has sustained structural damage.....the cost of repair does NOT affect the ABCD rating.
"Category C and D refer to the cost of repair at the time of the claim, not whether the damage was structural or not."
C has sustained structural damage.....the cost of repair does NOT affect the ABCD rating.
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How long did you work in the car industry? You are wrong......but you are not going to have it....so ill leave you too it. Even the text from the claims assessor above wont convince you. So you obviously know best.
I’ve never worked in the car industry. Did you work for the ABI or HPI or something?
What is an Insurance write-off? Car write-off categories explained – HPI Blog
What is an insurance write-off? Our expert guide to Cat A,Cat B,Cat C and Cat D insurance write-off categories and what they mean for you.
www.hpi.co.uk
Please have a read and see if that makes it clearer
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Im with you on this but gave up
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Yes and its HPI CLEAR repaired by the insurance
As are thousands of damaged repaired vehicles every year, your point being?
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LOL....firstly thats the old ABCD rating...secondly it only really backs up what Im staying! They made it easier to know whether structural damage was done by changing C to S for Structural and D to N for Non structural....not difficult is it. By your definition it would be impossible for a buyer to know if a cat S or N car car had structural damage or not by looking at the write of category....which was the whole point if the new system. I really am out of this now! Have a nice day!I’ve never worked in the car industry. Did you work for the ABI or HPI or something?
What is an Insurance write-off? Car write-off categories explained – HPI Blog
What is an insurance write-off? Our expert guide to Cat A,Cat B,Cat C and Cat D insurance write-off categories and what they mean for you.
Please have a read and see if that makes it clearer
Not sure what the LOL is about.
The link I provided was to explain to you what category C and D are and how they were defined.
It is you who seems to misunderstand what they mean.
It does not back up what you’re saying in the slightest as you are adamant that they mean something that they don’t.
Category C and D are explained above in the link I provided but to reiterate:
Whilst category C and D were replaced with the new system with S and N, they are definitely not the same thing.
C and D were determined by repair costs, not structural or non-structural damage.
S and N are structural and non-structural definitions.
There is a difference
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This makes sense as I remember one of my family members old Daewoo being a Cat C when it literally had a dent in the tailgate - no structural damage at all. Issue was the car was worth next to nothing at the time.
From my research Cat C/D was based on cost - this was obviously (as seen on here) misunderstood by many and hence they moved to Cat N/S - to show non-structural or structural damage. Why on earth would they just change the letters for no reason if they meant the same thing?
What is the registration number, and when was it written off?
That is the new note applied to category ‘S’ vehicles.
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The damage was October 2017 front wing and side skirt maybe some suspension but nothing stands out the colour is 1 ive not seen or heard of its
Cubanite silver full history on database till 2021 103k all paperwork present since including plugs,transmission and all filters recent MPS4 rears and rear pads and handbrake shoe's, cam covers done
And does drive in a straight line id say its louder than the c63 but does have the xpipe fuel wise i was shocked at 26 mpg over 140 miles home
Cubanite silver full history on database till 2021 103k all paperwork present since including plugs,transmission and all filters recent MPS4 rears and rear pads and handbrake shoe's, cam covers done
And does drive in a straight line
id say its louder than the c63 but does have the xpipe fuel wise i was shocked at 26 mpg over 140 miles home 
