Speeding (allegedly) by someone

[996jimbo]

Just suppose someone was to be caught by a traffic camera doing, for instance, erm somewhere between 95 and about 97 ish in a 70. What sort of a prize could they expect to get?

Obviously this wasn't me 'cause I never speed. But probably someone does, and if they did - just supposing you know. Naughty pepople that they would be of course tut tut. A friend asked me to type this.

 

[GrahamC230K]

Someone I know, not me obviously, got awarded 3 points for a similar speed in a 70. The prize was presented in person though, not by a machine.

 

[abbos]

Sounds like your friend has been very naughty. I remember back in the day where anything over 100mph was an instant ban but understand this as been lowered over the course of the last few years.

Can anyone with a bit more up to date "experience" confirm?

 

[Thmsshaun]

Sounds like you have a naughty friend.

The prize may vary although for the camera flash you should just be awarded 3 points and releaved of £60 although you do the get option to appeal where you could try and claim for a better prize.

 

[scumbag]

if you were caught by a police man and huge numbers of cars were traveling slower but not massively so, ie, 80-85ish, i would suggest you may get off a bit lighter. if it was foggy, raining, congested or at night. prepare for the worse.

cameras dont have foresight, hindsight or descretion either...so even worse.

 

[Brett]

In Scotland, 96mph and above is an automatic court appearance, and over 100mph is a ban. Don't know about south of the border though.

 

[Rose Chap]

Please do pass on my best wishes to your friend and tell him that a friend of mine heard somewhere that the tolerances were being lowered and your friend may be unfortunate and end up with a 6 point prize instead.

Which would indeed suck. For your friend.

 

[splang]

my car has been caught by a speed camera - but we can't identify the driver - and nor can the safety camera people....

shame really.

It's called the paragraph 4 defence .. let me know if you want to know more...

 

[Brett]

It may be worth your friend browsing http://www.pepipoo.com/

 

[stats007]

100mph+ is still an automatic ban in this country - unless you're an off duty policeman of course

 

[Thmsshaun]

my car has been caught by a speed camera - but we can't identify the driver - and nor can the safety camera people....

shame really.

It's called the paragraph 4 defence .. let me know if you want to know more...

Such a shame. I bet the dirver is though.

 

[sparkyspost]

100mph+ is still an automatic ban in this country - unless you're an off duty policeman of course

umm not necessarily, according to a um friend who had to go to court after being caught by an unmarked police car on the M40 doing 101.4

The first and last speeding offence in over 10 years of driving and ended up with 6 points and £300 fine.

... Alledgedly...

 

[Benzowner]

my car has been caught by a speed camera - but we can't identify the driver - and nor can the safety camera people....

shame really.

It's called the paragraph 4 defence .. let me know if you want to know more...

I beleive this has now been ammended and that the registered keeper must notify who the driver was, if not the registered keeper will receive the fine and points, unless the keeper reported the vehilce stolen, it was being driven with the registered keepers permission, or of course you had the car up for sale and it was being test driven by a prospective buyer, I do beleive the registered keeper will get the fine and points

 

[Parrot of Doom]

If you fail to inform the police of the driver's identity, then you'll be charged with an S172 which IIRC is a 3-pointer and £1000 fine.

If you present reasonable evidence that you tried to identify the driver (ie fuel receipts, diary of days events, etc) then you might escape it.

Guilty until proven innocent - the future of UK law.

 

[Howard]

I had a friend caught doing exactly the same speed 96/97 in a 70 limit (A303 Merrymeet) ......

He was polite and chatty to the Plod, so he could see he was a nice guy and not a hooligan and got off with 3 points and a £60 fine .....

Nothing to do with me though ....

 

[Bad Bee]

The Plods are getting tougher.. has your friend ever considered getting a Snooper/Road Angel? There are some very goods about!

 

[jimmy]

my car has been caught by a speed camera - but we can't identify the driver - and nor can the safety camera people....

shame really.

It's called the paragraph 4 defence .. let me know if you want to know more...

Our works van got photographed by a mobile camera van, the picture was of the rear of our van doing 55mph in a 50mph zone. We tried to be clever and said we could not identify the driver.

After a few months of letters and to and throing we were taken to court and hammered!!! The outcome was a huge fine, and as there are 2 directors of the company, the court were going to give us 3 points each but luckily we did not. We were hammered becuase we failed to identify the driver and we should have records to prove who was driving where and when.

Lesson learnt, we won't try and be clever again!!!

 

[Spinal]

I was reading the metro today... and it made me think of you. Apparently, if they do not send you the images (as well as the evidence they plan to use in court) beforehand (which they don't do), then they cannot use that evidence in court.

Apparently this got beckham off his 3 points, along with some other celebs I can't remember. I'll see if I can find a link on metro's online site...
Michele

 

[glojo]

Obviously this wasn't me 'cause I never speed.

If this was your friends first offence then he would be extremely unlucky to be hammered by the court, especially if your friend eat lots of humble pie.

There are numerous routes your friend could try that might get them off, but make sure your friend looks before they leap. Money can certainly buy innocence, but is it worth it? Read Jimmy's post.

My condolences to your friend and good luck with the decision.

John

 

[Parrot of Doom]

I was reading the metro today... and it made me think of you. Apparently, if they do not send you the images (as well as the evidence they plan to use in court) beforehand (which they don't do), then they cannot use that evidence in court.

Apparently this got beckham off his 3 points, along with some other celebs I can't remember. I'll see if I can find a link on metro's online site...
Michele

7 days before the hearing. If they fail to send you the photographs, the evidence is inadmissable.