The 2020 CL215 Owners Register

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SNIPPET
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The CL63 AMG is the rarest W215 CL of all. It was produced only in November 2001 and just 26 examples were sold. The engine produces 438 bhp and 390 lb-ft torque between 2,500 - 5,800 rpm, with a peak of 457 at 4,400 rpm. with some UK being and one for France registered in March 2002. The V12-powered CL63 AMG was only sold in Europe and Asia. Mercedes-Benz never offered the W215 CL63 for sale; all were sold exclusively through AMG.

The 2000 CL55 AMG F1 is also extremely rare with a total production of only 55 units. This was a tribute to the modified Safety Car version used in Formula One during the 1999 and 2000 seasons.[9] The engine was a naturally-aspirated 5.4-liter V8 delivering 354 bhp at 5,500 rpm, and 391 ft lbs torque at 4,100 rpm. This was the first road car to feature full Ceramic Brembo Vented and Cross Drilled Disc Brakes.
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	Engine	Power	Torque	0–100 km/h (62 mph)	Top speed
CL 550​	4.7 L BiTurbo V8	320 kW (435 PS; 429 hp)	700 N⋅m (516 lb⋅ft)	4.8 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)
CL 550 4MATIC​	4.7 L V8 BiTurbo	320 kW (435 PS; 429 hp)	700 N⋅m (516 lb⋅ft)	4.8 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)
CL 600​	5.5 L V12 BiTurbo	380 kW (517 PS; 510 hp)	830 N⋅m (612 lb⋅ft)	4.4 seconds (4.1 seconds R&T)	250 km/h (155 mph)
CL 63 AMG​	5.5 L V8 BiTurbo	400 kW (544 PS; 536 hp)	800 N⋅m (590 lb⋅ft)	4.4 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)
CL 63 AMG Performance Package​	5.5 L V8 BiTurbo	420 kW (571 PS; 563 hp)	900 N⋅m (664 lb⋅ft)	4.3 seconds	325 km/h (202 mph)
CL 65 AMG​	6.0 L V12 BiTurbo	450 kW (612 PS; 603 hp)	1,000 N⋅m (738 lb⋅ft)	4.1 seconds	250 km/h

 

[mhwgc]

A very warm welcome to the Register MHWGC, good to have you & the car aboard.
Thank you for the most interesting initial post, so many just give their name & basic details of their car & we have to extricate the interesting parts later !

I have two small tears in the driver`s seat & am currently searching for a local upholsterer.
I believe the malfunctioning sunroof can be time consuming to fix. Surprised that it had not
been examined & lubricated by your friend

A question for you, has the hydraulic fluid been changed at all ?

Simon

Simon

Checked last night and the hydraulic fluid has never been changed.

 

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Simon

Checked last night and the hydraulic fluid has never been changed.

Mercedes says this system is maintenance free. But nearly everyone on the message boards agree that the ABC fluid should be replaced on a regular basis. How frequently is a subject of debate.
Clean fluid is clear with a green tint. If the fluid has turned brown it is because it is full of loose microscopic particles floating with the fluid. If it is black it will likely lead to problems. These particles will settle on surfaces you do not want them too, especially in the valve blocks. My personal opinion is that the fluid and filter should be replaced every 20,000 miles or 2-3 years. And sooner if the fluid has already darkened. Sometimes it may take two flushes to get the system clean.
Here is an excellent description (message #6 of this thread) on why the fluid should be kept clean:

Great article on importance of ABC fluid changes

www.benzworld.org

Post No.6 gives details on translation.
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Show your Mercedes friend the details. It is universally agreed that dirty fluid should be changed.
The above information was taken from Mercedes Benz ABC System Troubleshooting Guide a highly rated write up.
Simon

 

[mhwgc]

Mercedes says this system is maintenance free. But nearly everyone on the message boards agree that the ABC fluid should be replaced on a regular basis. How frequently is a subject of debate.
Clean fluid is clear with a green tint. If the fluid has turned brown it is because it is full of loose microscopic particles floating with the fluid. If it is black it will likely lead to problems. These particles will settle on surfaces you do not want them too, especially in the valve blocks. My personal opinion is that the fluid and filter should be replaced every 20,000 miles or 2-3 years. And sooner if the fluid has already darkened. Sometimes it may take two flushes to get the system clean.
Here is an excellent description (message #6 of this thread) on why the fluid should be kept clean:

Great article on importance of ABC fluid changes

www.benzworld.org

Post No.6 gives details on translation.
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Show your Mercedes friend the details. It is universally agreed that dirty fluid should be changed.
The above information was taken from Mercedes Benz ABC System Troubleshooting Guide a highly rated write up.
Simon

Simon

Thanks for that, yes he gave the 'Mercedes' quote saying it's maintenance free so will ask him to do it for me, really appreciate the heads up.

As an aside I can't seem to find much about my model of car, it's the CL55 AMG but not Kompressor, any ideas where I can look. Numbers made, spec details etc?

 

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mhwc ......... This is taken from Wiki, which is always pretty accurate but not totally authentic




CL 500 (early version).
The CL-Class coupés come equipped with the very latest in Mercedes-Benz technology, and along with the S-Class sedans the CL coupés receive new technological features.

C215 was the second car (after the W220 S-Class) with Distronic: the first worldwide radar-assisted Autonomous cruise control system. It was the first car in the world with both low beam and high beam (Bi-Xenon) High Intensity Discharge headlamps.[citation needed]

The C215 was standard equipped with the hydraulic Active Body Control (ABC) system. It is technically more advanced than standard Airmatic air suspension found on the W220 S-Class sibling, and keeps the car level even in fast corners, provides a comfort and sports setting. Also, the car height can be increased by using a button, increasing ground clearance (3 settings) for driving on difficult terrain, lowers automatically at higher speeds.

From 1999 through 2003, the V12-equipped cars featured a cylinder deactivation system called Active Cylinder Control. The feature was dropped when the 500 PS (368 kW; 493 hp) bi-turbo V12 was introduced. This disactivation feature allowed the CL 600 to get better fuel economy than the comparable CL 500 (when not equipped with ACC itself, an option for the V8), especially on the road where the six-cylinder operation could be effectively used. Essentially, the engine is two Mercedes six-cylinder series engines mated to a common crank with separate engine monitoring systems.

Safety​

CL 600
In 2003, the cars were upgraded with Pre-Safe precrash system and a newer electronics package that included a DVD-based navigation system instead of the CD-based COMAND system. Also, the engine options changed. The CL 55 AMG became supercharged allowing the car to accelerate from 0-60 mph in 4.27sec according to Motor Trend and the V12 CL 600 had turbochargers added and a slight engine reduction, from 5786 cc to 5513 cc. Both cars produced 500 PS (368 kW; 493 hp) the distinction, again, was the quietness of the CL 600 as compared to rather noisy CL 55 AMG. The more powerful CL 65 produced 612 PS (450 kW; 604 hp). The top speed of the car was limited to 250 km/h (155 mph).

Electronic Stability Program (ESP) and Brake Assist were standard features for difficult driving conditions and emergency maneuvers.

The C215 CL-Class added standard front and rear side curtain airbags. In total, the C215 features 8 airbags: 2 frontal (driver and passenger), 4 side airbags (one for each passenger, optional for rear seats) and 2 window-airbags.

LED brake lights were also standard issue on the C215. LED brake lights illuminate faster than conventional bulbs.

Comfort and convenience[edit]​

CL 55 AMG, late supercharged version.

CL 65 AMG

• Distronic cruise control, which could maintain a set distance between the CL-Class and any vehicle in front.
• Speedtronic adjustable speed limiter for not exceeding a set speed on roads with speed limits.
• Keyless Go, a smart key entry and startup system.
• Rain-sensing windshield wipers.
• Light sensors to turn the headlights on and off automatically, depending on lighting circumstances. The instrument display and the COMAND screen's backlight and colour also adjust automatically depending on the ambient light situation.
• Parktronic visual and audible parking aid, with sensors in the front and rear bumpers. Also, the passenger side mirror can swivel down automatically when engaging reverse, to help see the curb.
• Automatically heated exterior mirrors.
• Fully automatic climate control system with pollen and charcoal filters and optional separate rear-seat climate controls.
• COMAND system combines the controls for audio systems, the television, the navigation and the telephone. COMAND based cars offer higher quality audio compared to the Audio 10 system.
• Optional BOSE sound system.
• Summer Open/Close - Ability to open and close all four windows and the sunroof at the sametime upon entry and/or exit from the vehicle.
• Self opening and closing trunk.
• Self-closing doors.
• Electrically adjustable seats are standard. Optional were the memory function for the seats (standard in many countries on the larger engine models) and the multi-contour backrests with massage function.
• Easy entry/exit function.
• Auto-dimming interior and driver's side exterior rear view mirrors to prevent being dazzled by cars behind.
• bi-xenon headlamps
• Linguatronic voice recognition system which can be used to control the audio system, navigation system, and a cellular telephone through voice commands.

Engines​

As with all major German manufacturers (except Porsche) Mercedes electronically limits their cars to 250 km/h (155 mph).

Model	Engine	Power	Torque	0–100 km/h (62 mph)	Top speed	CO2 emissions g/km
CL 55 AMG​	5.4 L V8 M113	265 kW (360 PS; 355 hp) at 5500 rpm	530 N⋅m (391 lb⋅ft) at 3150–4500 rpm	6.0 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	310
CL 55 AMG (from 2002)​	Supercharged 5.4 L V8 M113	368 kW (500 PS; 493 hp) at 6100 rpm	700 N⋅m (516 lb⋅ft) at 2750–4000 rpm	4.8 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	317
CL 63 AMG​	6.3 L V12 M137	326 kW (443 PS; 437 hp) at 5500 rpm	620 N⋅m (457 lb⋅ft) at 4400 rpm	5.5 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	338
CL 65 AMG​	Twin-turbocharged 6.0L V12 M275	450 kW (612 PS; 603 hp) at 4800–5100 rpm	1,000 N⋅m (738 lb⋅ft) at 2000–4000 rpm	4.4 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	357
CL 500​	5.0 L V8 M113	225 kW (306 PS; 302 hp) at 5600 rpm	460 N⋅m (339 lb⋅ft) at 2700–4250 rpm	6.5 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	285–320
CL 600​	5.8 L V12 M137	270 kW (367 PS; 362 hp) at 5500 rpm	530 N⋅m (391 lb⋅ft) at 4250 rpm	6.3 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	321
CL 600 (from 2002)​	Twin-turbocharged 5.5 L V12 M275	368 kW (500 PS; 493 hp) at 5000 rpm	800 N⋅m (590 lb⋅ft) at 1800–3500 rpm	4.8 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	353

Production​

According to Daimler,[6] the C215 was produced in the following numbers:

• CL 500 (1998-2006) - 32,224
• CL 600 (1998-2002) - 6,348
• CL 600 (2002-2005) - 2,255
• CL 55 AMG (2000-2002) - 2,217
• CL 55 AMG (2002-2005) - 4,163
• CL 63 AMG (2001) - 26
• CL 65 AMG (2003-2005) - 777

Total production of the C215 CL-Class was 47,984 units (excluding 63 AMG model).

Simon

 

[mhwgc]

mhwc ......... This is taken from Wiki, which is always pretty accurate but not totally authentic



CL 500 (early version).
The CL-Class coupés come equipped with the very latest in Mercedes-Benz technology, and along with the S-Class sedans the CL coupés receive new technological features.

C215 was the second car (after the W220 S-Class) with Distronic: the first worldwide radar-assisted Autonomous cruise control system. It was the first car in the world with both low beam and high beam (Bi-Xenon) High Intensity Discharge headlamps.[citation needed]

The C215 was standard equipped with the hydraulic Active Body Control (ABC) system. It is technically more advanced than standard Airmatic air suspension found on the W220 S-Class sibling, and keeps the car level even in fast corners, provides a comfort and sports setting. Also, the car height can be increased by using a button, increasing ground clearance (3 settings) for driving on difficult terrain, lowers automatically at higher speeds.

From 1999 through 2003, the V12-equipped cars featured a cylinder deactivation system called Active Cylinder Control. The feature was dropped when the 500 PS (368 kW; 493 hp) bi-turbo V12 was introduced. This disactivation feature allowed the CL 600 to get better fuel economy than the comparable CL 500 (when not equipped with ACC itself, an option for the V8), especially on the road where the six-cylinder operation could be effectively used. Essentially, the engine is two Mercedes six-cylinder series engines mated to a common crank with separate engine monitoring systems.

Safety​

CL 600
In 2003, the cars were upgraded with Pre-Safe precrash system and a newer electronics package that included a DVD-based navigation system instead of the CD-based COMAND system. Also, the engine options changed. The CL 55 AMG became supercharged allowing the car to accelerate from 0-60 mph in 4.27sec according to Motor Trend and the V12 CL 600 had turbochargers added and a slight engine reduction, from 5786 cc to 5513 cc. Both cars produced 500 PS (368 kW; 493 hp) the distinction, again, was the quietness of the CL 600 as compared to rather noisy CL 55 AMG. The more powerful CL 65 produced 612 PS (450 kW; 604 hp). The top speed of the car was limited to 250 km/h (155 mph).

Electronic Stability Program (ESP) and Brake Assist were standard features for difficult driving conditions and emergency maneuvers.

The C215 CL-Class added standard front and rear side curtain airbags. In total, the C215 features 8 airbags: 2 frontal (driver and passenger), 4 side airbags (one for each passenger, optional for rear seats) and 2 window-airbags.

LED brake lights were also standard issue on the C215. LED brake lights illuminate faster than conventional bulbs.

Comfort and convenience[edit]​

CL 55 AMG, late supercharged version.

CL 65 AMG

• Distronic cruise control, which could maintain a set distance between the CL-Class and any vehicle in front.
• Speedtronic adjustable speed limiter for not exceeding a set speed on roads with speed limits.
• Keyless Go, a smart key entry and startup system.
• Rain-sensing windshield wipers.
• Light sensors to turn the headlights on and off automatically, depending on lighting circumstances. The instrument display and the COMAND screen's backlight and colour also adjust automatically depending on the ambient light situation.
• Parktronic visual and audible parking aid, with sensors in the front and rear bumpers. Also, the passenger side mirror can swivel down automatically when engaging reverse, to help see the curb.
• Automatically heated exterior mirrors.
• Fully automatic climate control system with pollen and charcoal filters and optional separate rear-seat climate controls.
• COMAND system combines the controls for audio systems, the television, the navigation and the telephone. COMAND based cars offer higher quality audio compared to the Audio 10 system.
• Optional BOSE sound system.
• Summer Open/Close - Ability to open and close all four windows and the sunroof at the sametime upon entry and/or exit from the vehicle.
• Self opening and closing trunk.
• Self-closing doors.
• Electrically adjustable seats are standard. Optional were the memory function for the seats (standard in many countries on the larger engine models) and the multi-contour backrests with massage function.
• Easy entry/exit function.
• Auto-dimming interior and driver's side exterior rear view mirrors to prevent being dazzled by cars behind.
• bi-xenon headlamps
• Linguatronic voice recognition system which can be used to control the audio system, navigation system, and a cellular telephone through voice commands.

Engines​

As with all major German manufacturers (except Porsche) Mercedes electronically limits their cars to 250 km/h (155 mph).

Model	Engine	Power	Torque	0–100 km/h (62 mph)	Top speed	CO2 emissions g/km
CL 55 AMG​	5.4 L V8 M113	265 kW (360 PS; 355 hp) at 5500 rpm	530 N⋅m (391 lb⋅ft) at 3150–4500 rpm	6.0 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	310
CL 55 AMG (from 2002)​	Supercharged 5.4 L V8 M113	368 kW (500 PS; 493 hp) at 6100 rpm	700 N⋅m (516 lb⋅ft) at 2750–4000 rpm	4.8 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	317
CL 63 AMG​	6.3 L V12 M137	326 kW (443 PS; 437 hp) at 5500 rpm	620 N⋅m (457 lb⋅ft) at 4400 rpm	5.5 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	338
CL 65 AMG​	Twin-turbocharged 6.0L V12 M275	450 kW (612 PS; 603 hp) at 4800–5100 rpm	1,000 N⋅m (738 lb⋅ft) at 2000–4000 rpm	4.4 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	357
CL 500​	5.0 L V8 M113	225 kW (306 PS; 302 hp) at 5600 rpm	460 N⋅m (339 lb⋅ft) at 2700–4250 rpm	6.5 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	285–320
CL 600​	5.8 L V12 M137	270 kW (367 PS; 362 hp) at 5500 rpm	530 N⋅m (391 lb⋅ft) at 4250 rpm	6.3 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	321
CL 600 (from 2002)​	Twin-turbocharged 5.5 L V12 M275	368 kW (500 PS; 493 hp) at 5000 rpm	800 N⋅m (590 lb⋅ft) at 1800–3500 rpm	4.8 seconds	250 km/h (155 mph)	353

Production​

According to Daimler,[6] the C215 was produced in the following numbers:

• CL 500 (1998-2006) - 32,224
• CL 600 (1998-2002) - 6,348
• CL 600 (2002-2005) - 2,255
• CL 55 AMG (2000-2002) - 2,217
• CL 55 AMG (2002-2005) - 4,163
• CL 63 AMG (2001) - 26
• CL 65 AMG (2003-2005) - 777

Total production of the C215 CL-Class was 47,984 units (excluding 63 AMG model).

Simon

Thanks Simon, really appreciate your help and the time you've spent doing this.

 

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Here are some more details that I overlooked

Simon

Chronology
Dimensions
Powertrain
Body and chassis
Overview
Mercedes-Benz C215
Manufacturer	DaimlerChrysler
Production	June 1998–February 2006
Assembly	Germany: Sindelfingen
Designer	Peter Arcadipane, Bruno Sacco (1995)
Class	Grand tourer (S)
Body style	2-door coupé
Layout	Front-engine, rear-wheel-drive
Related	Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220)
Engine	Petrol: 5.0L M113 V8 5.4L M113 V8 5.4L M113 V8 s/c 5.5L M275 V12 twin-turbo 5.8L M137 V12 6.0L M275 V12 twin-turbo 6.3L M137 V12
Transmission	5-speed automatic 7-speed automatic
Wheelbase	2,885 mm (113.6 in)
Length	4,989–4,993 mm (196.4–196.6 in)
Width	1,857 mm (73.1 in)
Height	1,398–1,408 mm (55.0–55.4 in)
Curb weight	1,865–2,155 kg (4,112–4,751 lb)[1]
Predecessor	Mercedes-Benz C140
Successor	Mercedes-Benz C216

 

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Here are some more details that I overlooked

Simon

Mercedes-Benz C215
Overview
Body and chassis
Powertrain
Dimensions
Chronology
Manufacturer	DaimlerChrysler
Production	June 1998–February 2006
Assembly	Germany: Sindelfingen
Designer	Peter Arcadipane, Bruno Sacco (1995)
Class	Grand tourer (S)
Body style	2-door coupé
Layout	Front-engine, rear-wheel-drive
Related	Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220)
Engine	Petrol: 5.0L M113 V8 5.4L M113 V8 5.4L M113 V8 s/c 5.5L M275 V12 twin-turbo 5.8L M137 V12 6.0L M275 V12 twin-turbo 6.3L M137 V12
Transmission	5-speed automatic 7-speed automatic
Wheelbase	2,885 mm (113.6 in)
Length	4,989–4,993 mm (196.4–196.6 in)
Width	1,857 mm (73.1 in)
Height	1,398–1,408 mm (55.0–55.4 in)
Curb weight	1,865–2,155 kg (4,112–4,751 lb)[1]
Predecessor	Mercedes-Benz C140
Successor	Mercedes-Benz C216

Thanks again.

 

[PeteCL55AMG]

@mhwgc - looks a fabulous example, you have exactly the same model as me, mine in is 2002 CL55 AMG and like yours isn't a Kompressor, although it has a badge on the side to say it is, which is an oddity that I am trying to get to the bottom. Did a previous owner add it, why? Was it a quirk when it originally came out of the factory? I also purchased a full 'vehicle report' on mine (I think it was £15) which was useful and has provided me with specs but also the full list of equipment that was specified when new.

 

[PeteCL55AMG]

New to the forum and just thought I'd add my experiences to this. Picked my CL55 AMG (non Kompressor) up in June 2014 with 69k miles and several owners. Was in fairly good condition but love the shape of the car and just had to have it and really wanted a black one. Now up to 120k and had my fair share of niggling problems, which seem to have been mainly electrical, the radio and CD stopped working but the biggest one has been the boot not closing, eventually found that there was a wiring problem and the pump had leaked its oil, I think you're just supposed to replace it but 'my guy' (Mercedes Tech) just cleaned it up and refilled the oil and job done.

Some of the suspension and ball joints have needed replacing but that's just wear and tear. Front seat is badly worn in places and and the leather's starting to split. There's some corrosion around the rear wheel arches and the sun roof is struggling to open, assume lack of use but overall it's treated me very well and still looks a great car. It's my only car and not quite my daily driver as I can walk to work.

I may replace it with the slightly newer W216 which by all accounts is a better car but we'll see. I'm lucky in that the guy looking after it works at the local main Mercedes dealership but works on cars in the evening, he really knows his stuff and has undoubtedly saved me a fortune.View attachment 109767

My sound has gone too on my Command system, so no radio, no sat nav instruction and CD case won't come out, but plenty of really great advice on here as to how to find and sort the issue so have some knowledge now, so that is a 'Spring' day job to investigate where the fault lies, but very happy for now listening to the V8 soundtrack .

 

[mhwgc]

My sound has gone too on my Command system, so no radio, no sat nav instruction and CD case won't come out, but plenty of really great advice on here as to how to find and sort the issue so have some knowledge now, so that is a 'Spring' day job to investigate where the fault lies, but very happy for now listening to the V8 soundtrack .

I had the same problem with mine, we found that there'd been a leak and the amp got wet which needed replacing. Managed to find one on ebay for a couple of hundred quid which was much better than the crazy quote I got from Mercedes.
Interesting about the Konmpressor badge, maybe someone just added it?

 

[PeteCL55AMG]

I had the same problem with mine, we found that there'd been a leak and the amp got wet which needed replacing. Managed to find one on ebay for a couple of hundred quid which was much better than the crazy quote I got from Mercedes.
Interesting about the Konmpressor badge, maybe someone just added it?

Thanks, yes seen similar issues on the forum about leaks, I don't believe it's that from what I have seen as all dry and intermittent, but will let you know when I get to the bottom of it, but yes, worst case scenario I will source a second hand off ebay for sure. Well ref the added badge, that is the only conclusion I can come to, so someone trying to make it out to be something it isn't but fairly pointless on a car like this.

 

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SNIPPET​

Three items that are useful:-

Storing seat settings into memory

1. Adjusts seat to desired position.
2. Set steering wheel & mirrors to desired position.
3. Press memory button ONCE & within 3 seconds press memory position (1,2 or 3)
When accepted,beep signal sounds.
4. To recall this memory settings press button (1,2 or 3) until movements are totally completed.
5.The operation should also set convenience function.
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Throttle Reset

1. With key, switch ignition ON
2.Depress throttle fully to floor
3.Switch ignition OFF, retract throttle pedal leaving key in place
4.Leave alone for 2 minutes for reset to occur.
5. This will put throttle back to factory settings & allow your personal to progressively occur
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WINDSCREEN DRAINS CLEANING

There are two of these, one at each side below the windscreen.
They need to be checked on a routine basis, particularly in the Autumn when leaves drop off trees.
If they get blocked, water will find its way inside, especially under the front carpets
This article You are being redirected... for the CL
is quite helpful. Opening the bonnet to vertical position gives better access.
The channel on the drivers side is also at risk.
I use suction to extract the debris with an adapted hose on a household carpet cleaner.

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[mhwgc]

SNIPPET​

Three items that are useful:-

Storing seat settings into memory

1. Adjusts seat to desired position.
2. Set steering wheel & mirrors to desired position.
3. Press memory button ONCE & within 3 seconds press memory position (1,2 or 3)
When accepted,beep signal sounds.
4. To recall this memory settings press button (1,2 or 3) until movements are totally completed.
5.The operation should also set convenience function.
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Throttle Reset

1. With key, switch ignition ON
2.Depress throttle fully to floor
3.Switch ignition OFF, retract throttle pedal leaving key in place
4.Leave alone for 2 minutes for reset to occur.
5. This will put throttle back to factory settings & allow your personal to progressively occur
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WINDSCREEN DRAINS CLEANING

There are two of these, one at each side below the windscreen.
They need to be checked on a routine basis, particularly in the Autumn when leaves drop off trees.
If they get blocked, water will find its way inside, especially under the front carpets
This article You are being redirected... for the CL
is quite helpful. Opening the bonnet to vertical position gives better access.
The channel on the drivers side is also at risk.
I use suction to extract the debris with an adapted hose on a household carpet cleaner.

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Great tips again, thanks.

 

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SNIPPET​

This looks be be a helpful & useful exercise if an OBD scanner is unavailable.
Is it mentioned in the main Handbook for the CL215 at all ?

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A/C Hidden Menu W220 W215 S-Class​

The air conditioner, Automatic Climate Control (ACC) on the Mercedes-Benz W220 S-Class, W215 CL-Class can be troubleshoot by accessing the hidden menu. In this article we will show you how to access the hidden menus to stream live data from ECU and also read, reset and clear air conditioner fault codes. There are several hidden menus on the S-Class, let’s first start with showing how to stream some data from the sensors.
The hidden menus on the W220 Auto Climate Control can be used to:

• Stream Sensor Parameter Values including:Engine Fan, A/C Compressor, ACC Flap/Vent, Rear Clear Fault Error Codes
• Clear, view, review, erase the Automatic Climate Control fault DTC codes.

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Hidden Menu 1: How to stream live sensor data, including voltage and engine RPM.​

Step 1
Turn key to position 2. All dash lights should be on. Don’t start the engine yet. Turn on climate control.

Step 2
Press and hold the REST button until the screen should display new text starting with NR.01.

Step 3
Press the TEMPERATURE up and down arrows to scroll through the menu. Depending with what sensors and units your S-Class is equipped with you will see sensor live data on the right of the NR. text.

Here you will be able to see the engine voltage NR.24 or engine RPM NR21.

Step 4
Press REST button again to exit the menu.

What are some important NR. values you should check?​

NR.00	Temperature inside the cabin, Sensor N22/b1
NR.01	In Car Temperature Sensor (N70b1)
NR.02	Ambient Temperature Sensor (B14)
NR.03	Heater Core Temperature Sensor Left (B10/2)
NR.04	Heater Core Temperature Sensor Right (B10/3)
NR.05	Evaporator Core Temperature Sensor (B10/6)
NR.06	Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (B11/4)
NR. 07	Refrigerant (R134A) Pressure Sensor (B12)
NR.22	Engine Crankshaft Rotation Speed, RPM
NR.24	Battery Voltage

If you need the complete list see the attachment file on this BenzWorld.org thread: W220 S-Class Automatic Climate Control (ACC) Hidden Menu

W220 S-Class Automatic Climate Control (ACC) Hidden Menu​

Read / retrieve the Fault Codes from Automatic Conditioner Control Unit​

Read the Auto Climate Control Fault Memory​

1. You can also access the diagnostic trouble codes right in the ACC. Start by pressing the two rotating knobs in.
2. Press Air Filter and REST button simultaneously and hold for at least 5 seconds.
3. You show now see a new message on the screen. The message should read “DIAGN. ERROR”
4. Use the temperature buttons to go up and down. This will allow you to scroll through the fault codes if there are any.

Read / retrieve the Fault Codes from Automatic Conditioner Control Unit​

Read the Auto Climate Control Fault Memory​

1. You can also access the diagnostic trouble codes right in the ACC. Start by pressing the two rotating knobs in.
2. Press Air Filter and REST button simultaneously and hold for at least 5 seconds.
3. You show now see a new message on the screen. The message should read “DIAGN. ERROR”
4. Use the temperature buttons to go up and down. This will allow you to scroll through the fault codes if there are any.

Reset A/C Automatic Conditioner - Erase Trouble Codes​

Erase the Diagnostic Trouble Codes​

1. To erase the fault codes you will first need to scroll through all the Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) or the fault codes. Then set the screen to Fault Code.
2. Press to extend out the left button and then do the same with the right button. Round knob.
3. Now press in the left round knob. Next press the right knob in.
4. Once you have reset the trouble codes, press the REST button to exit.

Conclusion​

If you have been having Air Conditioner problems with your Mercedes-Benz W220 S430 S500 S600 S55 AMG, you want to check the Auto Climate Control fault memory. Once you scan through the fault codes, go ahead and reset them. Often times this may solve your A/C problem, but not always.
Note that Pressure Sensor Values can be streamed in parameter NR.07. The Pressure sensor should be around 5.5 to 14 bar. While the refrigerant temperature, measured via sensor B12/1, should be between 65 °F to 110°F approximately and should be parameter NR.08.
If resetting the codes doesn’t fix your A/C problem, you should make sure that the A/C refrigerant level are not low. If they are, use a product such as the A/C Professional Formula R-134a Air Conditioning.
If all fails, your last bet would be to connect your car to Mercedes-Benz Diagnostic Scanner C3 or C4,, they both work well. This will allow you to do further testing and troubleshooting.

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I noticed that CL215 is not mentioned on line "one" above but nevertheless is still informative.

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[PeteCL55AMG]

SNIPPET​

Three items that are useful:-

Storing seat settings into memory

1. Adjusts seat to desired position.
2. Set steering wheel & mirrors to desired position.
3. Press memory button ONCE & within 3 seconds press memory position (1,2 or 3)
When accepted,beep signal sounds.
4. To recall this memory settings press button (1,2 or 3) until movements are totally completed.
5.The operation should also set convenience function.
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Throttle Reset

1. With key, switch ignition ON
2.Depress throttle fully to floor
3.Switch ignition OFF, retract throttle pedal leaving key in place
4.Leave alone for 2 minutes for reset to occur.
5. This will put throttle back to factory settings & allow your personal to progressively occur
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WINDSCREEN DRAINS CLEANING

There are two of these, one at each side below the windscreen.
They need to be checked on a routine basis, particularly in the Autumn when leaves drop off trees.
If they get blocked, water will find its way inside, especially under the front carpets
This article You are being redirected... for the CL
is quite helpful. Opening the bonnet to vertical position gives better access.
The channel on the drivers side is also at risk.
I use suction to extract the debris with an adapted hose on a household carpet cleaner.

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Some excellent tips here, so thanks, will try those out on the weekend.

 

[PeteCL55AMG]

I have the 'sunroof' issue, tilt works fine but not sliding back now, but was working fine previously, so I think from reading up before it needs an oil, so any help on this would be most welcome, where do I apply the oil? Especially if it won't open fully? Just tilt it and pop it where I can see the workings?

 

[twinstar]

Funnily enough there is a story behind it. The car was bought new by a very wealthy gentleman who had various other cars so limited use on the cl. I bought the car in 2012 with 24k after he had an accident which declared the car a total loss. Not massive damage but cost of new amg bumper, etc made it an uneconomical repair. The car was completely repaired to virtually concourse standard, the only paint it had was bumper, bonnet and n/s front wing. Since then the car has done a few shows and the odd trip out on a sunny day. It hasnt been out in the rain for 6 years and spends its time garaged, under a sheet on a trickle charger. Mileage last year was 3 miles due to covid and no shows!!

Toying with the idea of putting the Cl up for sale after 9 years due to impending house move, any opinions on what its worth?

 

[splitpin]

That is bad news.
I am very sorry indeed to learn that you are considering selling but can understand your position.
I will let others on the forum here give their views on pricing.
It would help if you gave more detail on the car itself, was the car actively maintained during your ownership(Especially the hydraulic suspension) & if you have accreditation for the shows attended.
Which part of the country are you in ?

 

[PeteCL55AMG]

Toying with the idea of putting the Cl up for sale after 9 years due to impending house move, any opinions on what its worth?

Yes sorry to hear that too Twinstar, but life changes and so do our cars along with it, so I do understand. In terms of value, I do believe they are starting to rise, I bought Classic Cars mag on the weekend and noticed a 2005 low mileage example with 33,000 miles going for £16,995, a strong car with good service history. I also read not surprisingly that our high powered, big engined', highly technical cars were not as popular to purchase due to concerns over cost of ownership ie fuel, things going wrong etc, but I know many of us are somewhat surprised with impressive fuel economy (unless we want to hear the roar) and help with forums such as this one, allow us to learn that this is not quite true. However I appreciate if you you buy a bad one to start, you are asking for problems, so that is fine as long as you buy cheaply and are prepared to invest into putting it all right as you end up with one hell of a car!



When I was looking for mine in November 2019, I was finding CL500 and CL55s from £3k - £17k depending on mileage and year with AMGs always fetching more. I looked at one at £3,9k (85,000 miles) which even I could tell needed a lot of attention, another at £6,995 (72,000 miles) down in Poole which looked good on paper, but rough when I viewed it in the flesh and I found mine in the end and paid £6,000 with 55,000 miles on the clock which came with a really strong stamped service history and was immaculate so you could tell well looked after.

But since then, when I browse, I cannot find a car with the same mileage as mine for under £11k and I recall your car has lower even mileage than mine, but appreciate its history might have a bearing for some buyers.

All I know is that by viewing quite a few, I could immediately spot the 'good one' with very strong history and a buyer just wants as much peace of mind as they can get with the CL as they google them and read the ABC horror stories, so that if that is all sorted on yours, it bodes well for a good price as it looks in excellent condition.

Not sure if that helps?