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[grober]

Someone posted this on Jalopnik which pretty much sums up the attitudes expressed there. Guys in the USA tend not to mince their words.

 

[Deleted member 37751]

I'm going to be an anorak here and point out that the above is from a D3 not a Sport, which is what the dude in the video was driving...:fail

 

[kinaero]

Innocent bikers do not stop a car and surround it on a motorway.

They may or may not be innocent, it was only the one idiot whom brake tested him and knocked over, but those got ran over was sitting on their bike, right?

 

[renault12ts]

They may or may not be innocent, it was only the one idiot whom brake tested him and knocked over, but those got ran over was sitting on their bike, right?

What? So, during the 25 seconds when the RR was stood still the bikers were just sitting there looking at him? They weren't trying to get into the car and beat the carp out of him?

Get real...they are a feral mob and other videos of their antics merely serve to prove it.

 

[Paul/]

These guys on the bikes are not "Bikers" they are chavvy little turds with motorcycles...

A good point well made.

Sadly, the footage has given our homegrown hoodies on BMX bikes something to aspire to.

 

[John]

Post #73 tells you all you need to know about these mofos.

 

[Deleted member 37751]

How many kittens have you run over so far in your Q7?

Not nearly enough, they're wily little things so I struggle to line the wheels up with them.

 

[Sp!ke]

I think its a little soon to be judge and jury given that one motorcyclist is reported to be in a coma and may never walk again.

This deliberate act by the driver was the catalyst for what followed.

Yes it would seem that these 'Bikers' may not be angels (sic) but I wouldn't wish this sort of injury on anyone.

I'm sure more info will come out and it will be interesting what happened both before the initial impact and again what really happened immediately before the RR broke free running over the biker.

One thing for sure, the driver of the car will not do well out of this even if he is not found to be at fault. He will likely have to be in hiding for the rest of his life.

Oh and DM you were correct he did have his left hand on his hip not his right.

 

[clk208]

Post #73 tells you all you need to know about these mofos.

+1 clearly the group of bikers were out for trouble.

Looking at the original clip if the RR driver were out to cause trouble he could have easily levelled some of the other aggressors after he was forced to plough over the initial group of bikes that stopped him and surrounded the car.

 

[kinaero]

What? So, during the 25 seconds when the RR was stood still the bikers were just sitting there looking at him? They weren't trying to get into the car and beat the carp out of him?

Get real...they are a feral mob and other videos of their antics merely serve to prove it.

Don't get me wrong here , I am not taking side, and I am sure they are no angels, but from the footage seen, quite a few were actually sitting on their own bikes and appeared not to have involved in whatever altercation during the 25 secs, and you could clearly see the RR did nearly run them over.

My question is would UK law be throwing the book at the RR driver for nearly running them over, and possibly a few had been injured too.

 

[Dieselman]

I think its a little soon to be judge and jury given that one motorcyclist is reported to be in a coma and may never walk again.

This deliberate act by the driver was the catalyst for what followed.

The Police have said the deliberate act of the bikers is what led to the whole incident.

Cruz got hit by the Range Rover for this brake check and was later hospitalized and released for minor injuries, reports the New York Post.

The police have since arrested Cruz and thrown the book at him, effectively marking him responsible for the half-hour chase that ended with Alexian Lien beaten and his car smashed. Police charged Cruz with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child, and menacing,

The RR driver has nothing to fear, his and his family's safety was in danger, he acted accordingly, using minimal force.

One thing for sure, the driver of the car will not do well out of this even if he is not found to be at fault. He will likely have to be in hiding for the rest of his life.

Not sure why that should be given these are model citizens just out for a casual Sunday ride.

 

[Dieselman]

My question is would UK law be throwing the book at the RR driver for nearly running them over, and possibly a few had been injured too.

No it wouldn't.
Having to escape a dangerous situation is reason enough to act like that.

Did you read the news story recently where a thug was killed by a householder during a robbery.
The judge said it was reasonable force.

 

[Niks]

These clips make me mad. I know there are many decent bikers out there so respect to them, but equally there are many idiots out there too just showing off to their friends or acting the "hard man".

I personally think right on to that RR guy, he only did what he knew best at that particular time in that situation regardless right or wrong, his wife and kid came first... screw the bikers, 4x4 mode on.. pedal to the metal!

 

[Deleted member 37751]

This deliberate act by the driver was the catalyst for what followed.

The 'bikers' bullying an innocent bloke going about his business was the catalyst.

One thing for sure, the driver of the car will not do well out of this even if he is not found to be at fault. He will likely have to be in hiding for the rest of his life.

I doubt the driver 'wants to do well out of this' and why would he be in hiding for the rest of his life, you seem pleased that this could be the case?

A real beating and slashing would mean the driver wouldnt physically be able to speak to the press so soon after the incident. life.

And if it wasn't a 'real beating and slashing', what was it, a fake one?

I don't know what the rideout was about

A bunch of Easy Rider wannabes going around intimidating and attempting to bully innocent motorists.

 

[Sp!ke]

The Police have said the deliberate act of the bikers is what led to the whole incident.

The RR driver has nothing to fear, his and his family's safety was in danger, he acted accordingly, using minimal force.

Not sure why that should be given these are model citizens just out for a casual Sunday ride.

Thats the thing.. if these guys are not found to be thugs and hooligans then the RR driver will have to shoulder responsibility for his actions in the eyes of the law.

If his actions are vindicated and this gang are as bad as they are being made out to be then they will most definitely even the score for their paralised buddy.

It's lose lose for RR driver and his family I'm afraid.

 

[scillyisles]

Whilst I am shocked by the incident and in particular the actions of the bikers, what I find even more shocking is the posts by Spike and Rashman who seem to be defending the bikers despite evidence and information shown to the contrary.

Both Spike and Rashman based on some of their previous posts are clearly not stupid people (although you could argue that Rashman is an OCD case with his cleaning activities) but yet their posts on this thread seem bizarrely at odds with their previous form on this forum. I wonder if someone has hacked their accounts.

 

[kinaero]

No it wouldn't.
Having to escape a dangerous situation is reason enough to act like that.

Did you read the news story recently where a thug was killed by a householder during a robbery.
The judge said it was reasonable force.

really? I didn't know that. Have the government finally woke up and realized the law is to protect the victims!!
I have so often hear if the intruder was hurt by the householder, the householder would be charged by the police for assault!!

 

[John]

they will most definitely even the score for their paralised buddy.

Sadly I think this may well be the case should they be a 'gang'.

 

[Dieselman]

really? I didn't know that. Have the government finally woke up and realized the law is to protect the victims!!
I have so often hear if the intruder was hurt by the householder, the householder would be charged by the police for assault!!

Rubbish. The law has always allowed use of reasonable force. Before you cite Tony Martin, remember, he shot the scrote in the back as he was making his escape.

Example story.

Father who killed burglar with meat cleaver was 'justified' coroner rules | Mail Online

Police initially launched a murder inquiry and arrested four people, including Mr and Mrs Wang, now 32, and the victim’s brother. But no charges were ever brought against the couple after it was accepted Mr Wang had acted in self-defence.

 

[John]

really? I didn't know that. Have the government finally woke up and realized the law is to protect the victims!!
I have so often hear if the intruder was hurt by the householder, the householder would be charged by the police for assault!!

Labour said the law did not need changing but the current coalition realigned the CPS with the concept that if you genuinely are protecting your property and you kill and assailant, you will not be charged.

I think even more recently they altered further in so far as you cannot be expected to make an informed choice when you are being burgled with regard to what weapon you select - which can be anything you have.

So far, knives and a meat cleaver have been used to career-ending success and I believe even a shotgun has been used without issue (not Tony Martin).

About f time.