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Trumps Beginning of the end

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While Mr. Pee is having a video chat with female astronauts congratulating the women they are the first chicks on the dark side of the moon, then one of the astronauts politely corrects Mr. Pee the info is not correct.
What does Mr. Pee do?
The appalling and obnoxious moron Mr. Pee gives both female astronauts the finger, he flips them the bird! :eek: :oops: :rolleyes: :mad:
How rude! :confused:
Is Mr. Pee a true gentleman or could he be Jekyll & Hyde with defunct split personalities? o_Oo_O
 
A President tweeting during a witness statement to Congress attacking her personally is indicative of a man obsessed with self image more than running the country. Yet more confirmation that he was entirely capable of using American foreign policy to further his own personal domestic political position in the run up to re-election Its who he is- a bully a coward and a crook.
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Why Liberal AMERICA holds its breath every time this woman is hospitalised.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Hospitalized
The current impeachment testimony is revealing the calibre of the people Trump surrounds himself with. Anyone stupid enough to be associated with the man runs the risk of being tarred with the same brush!
George Washington: I cannot tell a lie.
Donald Trump: I cannot tell the truth.
Trump supporters: I cannot tell the difference
 
I'm a little tired of the new age capitalist society and scumbags we allow to operate and the levels we allow them to operate. It isn't just Trump....there is a raft of them. The get away with noting short of crimes that are sometimes real crimes, sometimes moral crimes and sometime crimes against people.

One thing is for sure.......they are crooks......plain an simple. Many will defend them or the law also saying some situations are not 'criminal' by law. In my mind that is just a technicality.....you know when you are doing wrong. The issue in our modern society now is that possibly some don't actually believe they are doing wrong. Therein lies a massive fundamental issue.

These people need to be less individually powerful and have their wings clipped and their actions checked.

I am far from a left wing socialist but also not a right wing Tory. I sit somewhere in between and there doesn't seem to be a party that really fits with my outlook. I like free enterprise and you should reward creative entrepreneurial activity but there are many people on this planet and we need to cater and support for many different types and levels.

Some people seem to have an unfair advantage and push things way too far for their own personal gains which is wholly wrong whoever you are.

How the American people and constitution allows someone like Trump to become President of the US is beyond me. The man is not to be trusted.

We are not too dissimilar with Boris in the UK in reality. Obviously he is far more academically intelligent. So he should know much better right from wrong. However seemingly he is far from getting this right and also seems a little confused.

There are circa 7bn people on this planet and these two wombles are the best we can do to run two of the biggest nations on this plane?
 
Don't get me started on idiots like Philip Green!
 
rockits said:
I'm a little tired of the new age capitalist society and scumbags we allow to operate and the levels we allow them to operate. It isn't just Trump....there is a raft of them. The get away with noting short of crimes that are sometimes real crimes, sometimes moral crimes and sometime crimes against people.

One thing is for sure.......they are crooks......plain an simple. Many will defend them or the law also saying some situations are not 'criminal' by law. In my mind that is just a technicality.....you know when you are doing wrong. The issue in our modern society now is that possibly some don't actually believe they are doing wrong. Therein lies a massive fundamental issue.

These people need to be less individually powerful and have their wings clipped and their actions checked.

I am far from a left wing socialist but also not a right wing Tory. I sit somewhere in between and there doesn't seem to be a party that really fits with my outlook. I like free enterprise and you should reward creative entrepreneurial activity but there are many people on this planet and we need to cater and support for many different types and levels.

Some people seem to have an unfair advantage and push things way too far for their own personal gains which is wholly wrong whoever you are.

How the American people and constitution allows someone like Trump to become President of the US is beyond me. The man is not to be trusted.

We are not too dissimilar with Boris in the UK in reality. Obviously he is far more academically intelligent. So he should know much better right from wrong. However seemingly he is far from getting this right and also seems a little confused.

There are circa 7bn people on this planet and these two wombles are the best we can do to run two of the biggest nations on this plane?
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Democracy.
 
Well todays the day that the Democrat controlled House of Representatives are likely to vote in favour of Trumps impeachment. :) Voting after what is predicted to be up to a six hour debate- taking into account the 5 hour difference would put it around 11-12 tonight UK time. Its ultimate success in the Republican controlled Senate remains uncertain however. :( What can I say- "Its taken 3 years but couldn't happen to a nicer bloke ":rolleyes:
 
grober said:
..Its ultimate success in the Republican controlled Senate remains uncertain however...
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I thought the outcome in the Republican-controlled Senate WAS certain? Just not in the way the Democrats would have wanted it to be.
 
We can only hope that that enough Republicans now recognise the walking liability they hereto backed and do the right thing by their nation, but I fear that political self interest may again hold sway. His 6 page written diatribe to Nancy Pelosi containing whining complaints and veiled threats is typical of a man whose modus operandi is always going to be "ME first"
 
Read an interesting article today ..... (CNN)


The impeachment of Donald Trump is now an inevitability thanks, not to Congress, but to his own character and personality which drove him to seek foreign help in the 2020 election. When the House declares him worthy of removal from office, however, the very flaws that got Trump to this point — the absence of humility, lack of integrity and his self-absorption — will keep him on a destructive path.


Postulates that he will go completely Tonto when the axe falls....

An interesting day ahead..
 
If he is impeached and removed from office, we'll lose the experiment that was how can he keep disparate elements of society on board without alienating one or the other. Given enough time, surely the wants/needs of blue collar and white collar would clash.
Cummings and Johnson will have to figure out for themselves how that is done.
 
Bellow said:
If he is impeached and removed from office, we'll lose the experiment that was how can he keep disparate elements of society on board without alienating one or the other. Given enough time, surely the wants/needs of blue collar and white collar would clash.
Cummings and Johnson will have to figure out for themselves how that is done.
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The Conservatives have figured it out by copying Blair, Thatcher and the post-war Conservative Governments, who saw no reason at all why the majority of the people in the middle shouldn't elect their Government on the promise of heavy government spending, paid for by ever-increasing taxes on the population and a good chunk of borrowing - to be repaid by the next generation.

In a two party system, it's all about the two parties "managing" compromises between different lobby groups.

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MikeInWimbledon said:
The Conservatives have figured it out by copying Blair, Thatcher and the post-war Conservative Governments, who saw no reason at all why the majority of the people in the middle shouldn't elect their Government on the promise of heavy government spending, paid for by ever-increasing taxes on the population and a good chunk of borrowing - to be repaid by the next generation.

In a two party system, it's all about the two parties "managing" compromises between different lobby groups.

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Can't quite agree with that given another party promised more and was defeated and the mechanism used to win the GE was scaring prospective Labour voters with the prospect of a hung parliament with the you-know-who party (we have no idea of the targeted ads sent to them via FaceBook, Twitter, etc). The third (or is it fourth?) time this has happened.
Anyway, we shouldn't be discussing UK politics here so back to Trump (form your own parallel). If continued blue collar support is sought by Trump and that involves spending in the so called rust belt - to the detriment of tax cuts for his wealthier backers - how long before another party appears further to the right of the GOP to hoover up their votes? The GOP become the new Democrats and another party become the GOP. Possible? Possible here? Or are the votes merely on loan to be called in later (as I suspect could be the case here)?
 
There have been many politically inspired moves to impeach those in positions of power but only 2 presidents have undergone formal judgement by the Senate --untill now! Both were found not guilty--- Andrew Johnson in 1868 for charges/ reasons unclear and Bill Clinton in 1997 for rumpy pumpy with Monica Lewinski . To be fair Richard Nixon was probaby a slam dunk in 1973 for the illicit wiretapping of the Democratic Party headquarters in the Watergate building, if he hadn't resigned first.:rolleyes: Altho couched in government " legalese " the main charge against Trump is his manipulation of American Foreign policy for the purposes of domestic political gain in his forthcoming re-election campaign and attempting to conceal it. :mad:
Impeachment investigations of United States federal officials - Wikipedia
 
"A republic, if we can keep it" Benjamin Franklin
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