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DolphiN Tech said:
It's a good thing I don't own a sportsbike, a romper suit, an illegal numberplate or headlight covers, or spend every weekend hacking down backroads then, otherwise at this rate I'll have a lynch mob asking for :ban: :D
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It is very likely that you had the extreme misfortune to encounter a motorcyclist who had borrowed a car and was still using his biker rules as you approached him. ;^)
 
Howard said:
I curse bikers with loud exhausts .

Seemingly everytime i am out walking with my 6 month old in her buggy trying to get her to sleep , a dayglo / black sportsbike will come past at warp 9 and wake her up.

All to get from one set of lights to the next a bit quicker.

No one likes you. No one sees you go past and thinks 'Wow , what a guy !' :rolleyes:
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Hear hear Howard.

Last Friday afternoon on Trinity Road [SW London] I was getting out of my car [checked over my shoulder to red traffic lights about 50 yards behind me] when i got 'buzzed' by a very fast road bike with its exhaust screaming that had just let rip as the lights turned amber. He changed up out of first just past me at god knows what speed and it felt like he rode up really close to me on purpose.

The blast of noise I got as he came up and past frightened the life out of me - I don't think he realised how close he came to a very nasty [I hesitate to use the word] accident.

Either my car door could have swung further open into his path because of my 'jump' in fright as it was windy, or he would have been pushed head on into the queue of stationary cars waiting for the lights to change. There were plenty of pedestrians close by [young mothers with children] who would have become embroiled had the worst happened.

I know one muppet does not typify all bikers but I was in shock - why do these idiots on superbikes ride like plums? Give me a car or bike on a track and I like many will put everyday caution to one side, but on a busy single carriageway urban street? Give me strength...

I suppose the way these idiots ride they are expecting the 'knock' to be terminal for them when it happens or are living a delusional existence that it won't happen to them.

Anyway got that off my chest
 
As I have said before, when I am on my bike I see so many stupid, selfish, blind car drivers.
Yet strangely, when I am driving in my car all I can see are crazy suicidal bikers.

"Ah wad some power the gift tae gie us, tae see ourselves as others see us"
 
Things are getting worse on here: the thread degenerated into a cars v bikes slanging match on page one. It normally happens round about half way down page two.

Glad you're OK DolphiN Tech :thumb:
 
Ted said:
As I have said before, when I am on my bike I see so many stupid, selfish, blind car drivers.
Yet strangely, when I am driving in my car all I can see are crazy suicidal bikers.
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Ain't that the truth. I drive and I ride (muscle bike, not a crotch rocket) and almost every time I'm out I see lousy driving/riding.

Just keep it shiny side up :thumb:

And remember, just because you think you're paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you ;)
 
Hi

It would be interesting for each of the contributors to this thread to declare whether they hold a motorcycle licence or not. I was critical of motorcyclists until i tried to get the licence.

I was ready to do the test (had already passed the theory test) when I hung up the helmet judging that it was too dangerous given the disrespect shown from car users.

You are very very vunerable out there on a bike, a lot of car users with their abs, esp and airbags in the steering wheels and doors have no idea how vunerable.

Granted there are idiots on bikes but there are many more idiots in cars in my opinion.

230k
 
I do not hold a motorcycle licence , i don't need one to pilot the buggy.

230K said:
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Granted there are idiots on bikes but there are many more idiots in cars in my opinion.

230k
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Come and spend a day in SW London , you'll be able to count on one hand the amount of sports bikes doing less than 70mph . The slightest excuse to give it the beans and off they go. I was sitting at my favourite cafe in Hampton Hill the other day and one just wheelied off from the lights , noisily ( waking up my offspring at the same time ) ..... oh how i prayed for a bus to pull out of a side road.
 
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I have a bike license but no longer ride bikes. To old and fat. That said I hated the way that biking was heading. What used to be a minority of loons has sadly now become the majority. I just cannot accept the tired old excuse of it is always the car driver at fault.

How many times a day are you undertaken by a bike or given a fright when they suddenly appear alongside you at xxmph before weaving in front of you.

I know there are multitudes of lousy and dangerous car drivers and two wrongs do not make a right. I just figure too many bikers see the road as their private playground. You see it with kids on their scooters with giant fart cannons attached. Tearing along weaving in and out often with their heads turned backwards to look for their mates. Giving the digit to anybody who dares to get in their way.

I am sure that the OP is not a loon and he makes his case very well and sensibly.
 
brucemillar said:
- people on sportsbikes should not blast up the motorway at 100+ in their own pretend lane, between the real lanes

I thought it was law that Motorbikes were not allowed to stick to any lane for longer than 15 seconds before leaning over in a Barry Sheene stylee to swerve between cars, lorrries etc. I know that the Motorcyclists version of the Highway code states

* No matter what you are doing at the time !! Any accident will be the fault of the car driver"

* To ensure that you know what the car driver may be anticipating, get right up his ****. Then move from left to right and back again several times before undertaking him.

* Only carry out the undertake when it is suicidal to do so. At no time must you make the car driver feel that he has any right to be on your patch of road.

* Remember you are invincible. Use of illegal exhaust pipes will protect you in any situation. If in doubt ?? Pull a wheelie or rev the guts out of your engine. This will strike fear into most motorists who did not see you coming up behind them on the left at 100+mph

* In queing or stationary traffic, normal etiquette should be completely ignored. That is for car drivers only. You have the right to wobble up between cars knocking their mirrors with your brake levers. Remember you must always be at he front of the line, preferably in the middle of the lane so that that any fool car driver who thought thay they were queing patiently can marvel at your superior being as you dump the clutch and wheelie off to the next set of lights.

* Be safe in the knowledge that your undersized illegible and illegal number plate will protect from any do gooders intent on driving their cars along your road. Place this number plate under your rear mud guard to keep it safe from sun light or nosey drivers.

* Wear leathers that would look good on somebody a third of your age who could actually ride a bike like yours on race track, without their beer gut and other wobbly bits scraping the tarmac.

* When on a Motorway. Relax, chill, Take your feet of the pegs and swing your legs about like Cupid Stunt (kenny Everett). This adds to the aura of mystique that you have created by swerving from left to right in that racing stylee that only posses.

* Cover your headlights with Quality Street wrappers. This will make you look like a UFO as your rainbow lights (fully legal to bike users only) provide no visibilty to you (you are using the car in fronts headlights to guide you) but give the idiot in front of you a nice disco distraction on their journey
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LOVE IT!!:bannana: I'm a two wheeled leather clad power ranger and still I laughed out load!!
 
Ted said:
As I have said before, when I am on my bike I see so many stupid, selfish, blind car drivers.
Yet strangely, when I am driving in my car all I can see are crazy suicidal bikers.

"Ah wad some power the gift tae gie us, tae see ourselves as others see us"
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Try driving a truck, I see all manner of idiotic driving and riding.
 
brucemillar said:
I am sure that the OP is not a loon and he makes his case very well and sensibly.
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Now, steady on Bruce, I have a reputation to uphold :D

It seems a lot of the venom is aimed at what I would term the "weekend warrior" - a creature I have very little time for myself.

When you're doing 70 miles a day commuting, arsing about and riding like a tit seems like very hard work for no purpose, not to mention almost certain to get you killed considering the amount of time you spend on the road. :thumb:

I probably filter through about 10-12 miles of traffic a day on average, almost all of it stationary, saving an hour a day minimum on the commute.
 
Transit vans are fun to be in too. I've lost count of the cars who pull out in front of me because they think I'm in a big slow van. The van can still break the national speed limit, and I drive to the speed limits (tracker...)but people see a van and think "he's only doing 40, I can make that" and pull out when I'm doing 60 on a 60 road...
 
230K said:
Hi

It would be interesting for each of the contributors to this thread to declare whether they hold a motorcycle licence or not. I was critical of motorcyclists until i tried to get the licence.

I was ready to do the test (had already passed the theory test) when I hung up the helmet judging that it was too dangerous given the disrespect shown from car users.

You are very very vunerable out there on a bike, a lot of car users with their abs, esp and airbags in the steering wheels and doors have no idea how vunerable.

Granted there are idiots on bikes but there are many more idiots in cars in my opinion.

230k
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I have a car licence and used to ride a bike when I could use the car licence as a provisional ( actually sat and passed the Part 1 test on the day of the Live Aid concert back in 1985 , but the bike blew up before I could sit part 2 so never bothered ) .
 
Dizwen said:
Transit vans are fun to be in too. I've lost count of the cars who pull out in front of me because they think I'm in a big slow van. The van can still break the national speed limit, and I drive to the speed limits (tracker...)but people see a van and think "he's only doing 40, I can make that" and pull out when I'm doing 60 on a 60 road...
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You want to see people's faces when you pull away from them in a Vito 115....;)
 
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