ianrandom
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- 1986 420SE, 1990 420SEC, 1989 2CV6.
Yeah can't be a 560 then, came as standard on them. I don't think it says the engine size anywhere in that ad. Couple like that on eBay at the mo the, seems a bit silly.
Gorgeous looking car though. Might be a 420.
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Yep it's showing as a 420
Datacard
Identification number: WDB1260462A610596 0
Chassis
Sales designation: 420 SEC
Order number: 0 1 537 29600
Paint code 1: 512 MB RADIO SPECIAL WITH TRAFF. MESS., RDS
Equipment: 265 No code designation available
Engine no.: 116965 22 091855
Transmission: 722355 03 518010
SA code
241 FRONT SEAT LH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
242 FRONT SEAT RH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
256 RADIO HI-LINE USA VERSION
265A _______ - 19960806 - LEATHER CREAM BEIGE - MUSHROOM / QUARTZ
265A _______ - 19961112 - LEATHER MUSHROOM
300 STORAGE BOX IN FRONT TRAY
341 ADDITIONAL BLINKER LAMPS
362 RHS IN ACC. WITH EU REGULATION
412 _______ - 19951002 - ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF
412 _______ - 19980716 - ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF WITH TILTING DEVICE
440 TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
452 No code designation available
461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
481 UNDERSHIELDS
512 MB RADIO SPECIAL WITH TRAFF. MESS., RDS
524 PAINTWORK - PRESERVATION
538 AUTO. ANTENNA AND SPEAKER, FRONT - WITHOUT
540 ROLLER BLIND, ELECTRIC, FOR REAR WINDOW
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
615 No code designation available
640 15-HOLE LIGHT ALLOY RIMS
682 FIRE EXTINGUISHER
812 REAR-MOUNTED LOUDSPEAKER
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
SA numbers
Group 07
07 12318/43
Group 14
14 12318/43
Group 35
35 10952/31
Group 40
40 10858/61
Group 46
46 11112/19 46 11312/02
Group 52
52 11115/03
Group 54
54 10811/15 54 11058/40 54 11112/19 54 11184/84 54 11191/08
54 11217/04 54 11288/14 54 11289/04 54 11290/05 54 11313/05
54 11313/34 54 56047/05 54 56656/05
Group 58
58 10917/09
Group 60
60 56499/08
Group 65
65 56499/08
Group 68
68 56440/25 68 56499/08 68 56637/09 68 56656/05 68 56805/02
Group 69
69 56381/06 69 56499/08
Group 72
72 56372/03 72 56381/06 72 56549/41 72 56549/44
Group 73
73 55935/83
Group 78
78 56499/08
Group 80
80 56040/23 80 56128/08
Group 81
81 56381/06
Group 82
82 10811/15 82 11289/04 82 11290/05 82 11313/05 82 11313/34
82 11376/03 82 56040/23 82 56047/05 82 56087/22 82 56313/10
82 56372/03 82 56424/68 82 56424/75 82 56499/08 82 56549/41
82 56549/44 82 56561/03 82 56656/05 82 56821/05 82 56822/15
82 56822/16 82 56998/22
Group 83
83 56128/08
Group 84
84 56381/06 84 56805/02
Group 86
86 56047/05 86 56073/12
Group 88
88 56047/05 88 56313/10 88 56561/03
Group 89
89 55935/83
Group 91
91 56073/12 91 56338/47 91 56381/06 91 56549/41 91 56549/44
91 56821/05 91 56822/15 91 56822/16
Group 92
92 56381/06 92 56805/02
Group 97
97 56338/47 97 56381/06
Other
Lamps: BOSCH
Wipers: BOSCH 911002
Datacard
Identification number: WDB1260462A610596 0
Chassis
Sales designation: 420 SEC
Order number: 0 1 537 29600
Paint code 1: 512 MB RADIO SPECIAL WITH TRAFF. MESS., RDS
Equipment: 265 No code designation available
Engine no.: 116965 22 091855
Transmission: 722355 03 518010
SA code
241 FRONT SEAT LH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
242 FRONT SEAT RH ELECTRIC ADJUSTABLE WITH MEMORY
256 RADIO HI-LINE USA VERSION
265A _______ - 19960806 - LEATHER CREAM BEIGE - MUSHROOM / QUARTZ
265A _______ - 19961112 - LEATHER MUSHROOM
300 STORAGE BOX IN FRONT TRAY
341 ADDITIONAL BLINKER LAMPS
362 RHS IN ACC. WITH EU REGULATION
412 _______ - 19951002 - ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF
412 _______ - 19980716 - ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF WITH TILTING DEVICE
440 TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
452 No code designation available
461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
481 UNDERSHIELDS
512 MB RADIO SPECIAL WITH TRAFF. MESS., RDS
524 PAINTWORK - PRESERVATION
538 AUTO. ANTENNA AND SPEAKER, FRONT - WITHOUT
540 ROLLER BLIND, ELECTRIC, FOR REAR WINDOW
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
615 No code designation available
640 15-HOLE LIGHT ALLOY RIMS
682 FIRE EXTINGUISHER
812 REAR-MOUNTED LOUDSPEAKER
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
SA numbers
Group 07
07 12318/43
Group 14
14 12318/43
Group 35
35 10952/31
Group 40
40 10858/61
Group 46
46 11112/19 46 11312/02
Group 52
52 11115/03
Group 54
54 10811/15 54 11058/40 54 11112/19 54 11184/84 54 11191/08
54 11217/04 54 11288/14 54 11289/04 54 11290/05 54 11313/05
54 11313/34 54 56047/05 54 56656/05
Group 58
58 10917/09
Group 60
60 56499/08
Group 65
65 56499/08
Group 68
68 56440/25 68 56499/08 68 56637/09 68 56656/05 68 56805/02
Group 69
69 56381/06 69 56499/08
Group 72
72 56372/03 72 56381/06 72 56549/41 72 56549/44
Group 73
73 55935/83
Group 78
78 56499/08
Group 80
80 56040/23 80 56128/08
Group 81
81 56381/06
Group 82
82 10811/15 82 11289/04 82 11290/05 82 11313/05 82 11313/34
82 11376/03 82 56040/23 82 56047/05 82 56087/22 82 56313/10
82 56372/03 82 56424/68 82 56424/75 82 56499/08 82 56549/41
82 56549/44 82 56561/03 82 56656/05 82 56821/05 82 56822/15
82 56822/16 82 56998/22
Group 83
83 56128/08
Group 84
84 56381/06 84 56805/02
Group 86
86 56047/05 86 56073/12
Group 88
88 56047/05 88 56313/10 88 56561/03
Group 89
89 55935/83
Group 91
91 56073/12 91 56338/47 91 56381/06 91 56549/41 91 56549/44
91 56821/05 91 56822/15 91 56822/16
Group 92
92 56381/06 92 56805/02
Group 97
97 56338/47 97 56381/06
Other
Lamps: BOSCH
Wipers: BOSCH 911002
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Somebody has swapped the 420 badge for a 560. The owner does not anywhere claim it to be a 560, so giving him the benefit of the doubt, he may just have forgotten to mention the incorrect badging.
I love the colour.
I love the colour.
When in good condition, almadine red looks wonderful. However, if it's faded, it's pink...
On 22/09/2015, 11:40, I wrote:
Other: I sent a message about mercedes sec w126 #271987111025
Full Name: Me
Country: United Kingdom
Primary Telephone: 7777777777
You make no mention of the model in your description. Is it a 560?
Thx.
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New message from: lanni.danie (7)
Is a 420 sec w126c . Boot badge is 560 as when repainted old badges broke and at the time I couldn't find the 420 sec badge . It has v 5 present and you can hpi the car as you have the number plate in the pictures .
Other: I sent a message about mercedes sec w126 #271987111025
Full Name: Me
Country: United Kingdom
Primary Telephone: 7777777777
You make no mention of the model in your description. Is it a 560?
Thx.
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New message from: lanni.danie (7)
Is a 420 sec w126c . Boot badge is 560 as when repainted old badges broke and at the time I couldn't find the 420 sec badge . It has v 5 present and you can hpi the car as you have the number plate in the pictures .
ianrandom
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Haha. Couldn't find the right badge 
DSB SL AMG
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I question why would you do all that work and not fit correct boot badge to keep originality, he could have easily of sourced from MB
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How closely do you look at the V5 when you buy a car? Do you check the engine size and model? I don't usually, and I bet most don't. A mug buyer, opening the bonnet and seeing a V8, might well assume it was a 560. Hmmmm.....
ianrandom
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Yeah not ideal is it.
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The correct boot badge from MB is also relatively cheap to buy. I've bought a few down the years myself and compared to all the money which the ad says the car has had spent on it the badge is peanuts.
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I must admit, since he's the one who changed the badge, I'm a lot less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Legally, he's not. I wonder if the buyer will ask/notice before paying/
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Because nowhere in the ad does he state what the engine size is, or what exact model it is; all he says is that it is a Mercedes W126C, SEC, and V8, and it is all of those. The ad is (I suspect deliberately and carefully) worded to allow any potential bidder to make the assumption that it is a 560, but does not explicitly state that, so no misdescription has occurred.
A buyer may assume that it is a 560, but the seller is under no obligation to state otherwise unless asked. Sharp practice, but lawful. As it's a private sale, "Buyer beware" applies unless the car is not as described, though I think even if it was a dealer selling it, legal action for a refund on grounds of misdescription would be bound to fail.
It looks rather nice, and if all the work described has actually been done, it could well be a pretty good buy at the right price, though you would want to get the sunroof sorted. If you wanted to race other cars on today's roads, you wouldn't buy one of these; in a car of this age, the performance even of a 560 isn't going to set the world alight, and even the 420 still has a big lazy V8 under the bonnet and makes all the right noises.
If I wanted an SEC of that age, I'd at least go and see this one, though without aircon, I'd not want to pay too much, and the lack of aircon might indeed be a showstopper. I wonder if it will sell, and if so, how much for?
A buyer may assume that it is a 560, but the seller is under no obligation to state otherwise unless asked. Sharp practice, but lawful. As it's a private sale, "Buyer beware" applies unless the car is not as described, though I think even if it was a dealer selling it, legal action for a refund on grounds of misdescription would be bound to fail.
It looks rather nice, and if all the work described has actually been done, it could well be a pretty good buy at the right price, though you would want to get the sunroof sorted. If you wanted to race other cars on today's roads, you wouldn't buy one of these; in a car of this age, the performance even of a 560 isn't going to set the world alight, and even the 420 still has a big lazy V8 under the bonnet and makes all the right noises.
If I wanted an SEC of that age, I'd at least go and see this one, though without aircon, I'd not want to pay too much, and the lack of aircon might indeed be a showstopper. I wonder if it will sell, and if so, how much for?
Rob77
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1. I disagree. The car carries 560 badging which the seller applied and displays in the photos which form part of the listing.
2. There would be reasonable grounds for arguing that in so doing, the seller has misrepresented the car - see http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/7
3. I agree.
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1. So if the car were badged "C63 AMG", you would consider it was being sold as a C63 AMG?
2. See 1. Go ahead and buy it and sue. Good luck; let us know how you get on...
3. Good.
4. I've always wanted a Pegaso, but never got round to buying one. What's it like?
2. See 1. Go ahead and buy it and sue. Good luck; let us know how you get on...
3. Good.
4. I've always wanted a Pegaso, but never got round to buying one. What's it like?
