AMG owernship experience

[Bobby Dazzler]

Bizarre thread.

 

[Deletedmember130310]

£1k per month on petrol? Seriously? So that is a tankful every 3 days. Are you running it as taxi?

 

[Felstmiester]

£1k per month on petrol? Seriously? So that is a tankful every 3 days. Are you running it as taxi?

i wouldn’t of thought that’s hard. I do £400+ a month on diesel in a Renault traffic van on a 44 mile round trip a day.

 

[oldguy57]

I’ve always said that I think the sweet spot to buy *any* car is two years old -

1. Already taken it’s biggest hit on depreciation.

2. Any niggles it’s had will have been ironed out

3. Still got a year of manufacturers warranty left

4. If timed correctly you can be driving about in a model that has saved you 30-50% as opposed to buying new, especially the new model

Do I detect a subtle hint of Yorkshire ancestry there? I only ask because the 20 years I spent "over there" rubbed off on me too.

 

[Deletedmember130310]

i wouldn’t of thought that’s hard. I do £400+ a month on diesel in a Renault traffic van on a 44 mile round trip a day.

Bit different to an AMG or F12, which aren’t usually high mileage daily drivers

 

[st13phil]

£1k per month on petrol? Seriously? So that is a tankful every 3 days. Are you running it as taxi?

Haha

I do around 12k miles a year in my E63, and in the last 12 months have spent £4.7k on fuel. Either the OP has a lead foot, or he's mini-cabbing it

 

[WDB124066]

Touch of hyperbole there, perhaps? Either that, or your world isn't quite the same as most of ours.....Ah.

It is the only logical explanation for continuing year after year after year of giving us crap - and when did it start Boff, when Frankfurt got involved. Do your research! Germany's way of doing an American to the Chinese, all be it on a smaller scale...

 

[AMGeed]

I must be doing AMG on the cheap,although my budget and sights were set a lot lower than a new/almost new model. I would never, ever buy a new car, AMG, RS, M Sport, anything, as watching the value plummet is akin to setting fire to £50 notes. Bu**er that, let the previous owner pay for the depreciation.
I bought my humble E55 coming up to 5 years ago, and its still worth the same as I paid for it, possibly a touch more. I bought when fuel prices were rocketting and you could hardly give away a v8. So no depreciation as such. I was fortunate.
It's a performance car, so it has performance car running costs. No point moaning about the cost of fuel after its been bought! My car was out of warranty and will never see a main dealer in my ownership. You get a better service at an indy and you can be sure everything that needs doing will get done at half the labour cost. Having main dealer S/H isn't high on my list of must haves when looking for a car provided its been serviced by an MB indy.

I have found AMG ownership to be reasonably inexpensive provided you aren't doing silly miles every week, you don't buy a new model, and you match your model to your income. By that, I mean you cannot expect to run a big V8 E63 for instance on McDonalds wages. Know your limitations and its not so bad.

 

[french]

Same here AM, The guy before me had it from MB Brighton@11 months old (29/3/2004) & had it on a Mobilo Life Service/Mot Plan. Looking through the service receipts it cost him a bomb along with depreciation. In 2004 he P/x a 2004 BMW 330Ci cabriolet which they gave him £29000 & £33406, total paid £62406 plus the above service plans for 12yrs...Phew ,all I can say is "Thanks mate ,runs like a dream" lol

 

[alfl23]

£1k per month on petrol? Seriously? So that is a tankful every 3 days. Are you running it as taxi?

£1k per month is usually a single round trip over 400 - 500mph, thinking Cornwall or Edinburgh. For various reasons, I keep every single Shell receipt, so I have a very precise understanding of the expenses, per car. It's not every month, but I can promise you I'm not blowing figures from thin air.

I used to daily my S63 Coupe for reasonable daily miles through London traffic, I don't expect award winning mpg, but even the most careful driving produces ~10mph instead of the standard 9.4mpg for reckless driving. Never got below 9.4mpg. Now I got a Tesla, which all in including PCP + insurance is just as much or cheaper as my AMG fuel "bills".

 

[alfl23]

I must be doing AMG on the cheap,although my budget and sights were set a lot lower than a new/almost new model. I would never, ever buy a new car, AMG, RS, M Sport, anything, as watching the value plummet is akin to setting fire to £50 notes. Bu**er that, let the previous owner pay for the depreciation.
I bought my humble E55 coming up to 5 years ago, and its still worth the same as I paid for it, possibly a touch more. I bought when fuel prices were rocketting and you could hardly give away a v8. So no depreciation as such. I was fortunate.
It's a performance car, so it has performance car running costs. No point moaning about the cost of fuel after its been bought! My car was out of warranty and will never see a main dealer in my ownership. You get a better service at an indy and you can be sure everything that needs doing will get done at half the labour cost. Having main dealer S/H isn't high on my list of must haves when looking for a car provided its been serviced by an MB indy.

I have found AMG ownership to be reasonably inexpensive provided you aren't doing silly miles every week, you don't buy a new mode, and you match your model to your income. By that, I mean you cannot expect to run a big V8 E63 for instance on McDonalds wages. Know your limitations and its not so bad.

I am lucky enough to spend my life at work and have a toy or two around, and going overboard on fuel won't have much consequence, but I can't help to feel a bit silly, wondering if I am getting my money's worth. My point is exactly that, run costs is rivalling much more powerful/exotic cars, all things considered, and that keeping track of every penny spent, insurance, repairs, depreciation, you name it. Hence why I wanted to see what experience others have had out here.

 

[alfl23]

OP, I agree with your frustration but I think your figures are rounded up/down to make for a more dramatic turn of events than it actually is.

Just out of curiosity I've checked how much F12s go for on AT.

- A 2014 car with only 8000 miles and £60k worth of options can be had for £179k. Given that they are £240k new that would make this particular one a £300k car (down to just over half in 3 years).

- And there's a grand total of 38 F12 in this country to choose from, including the LHD imports.

Personally, I think that luxury items depreciation is generally in line with one another. I.e. those who can afford them, buy new and change soon. Everyone else joins in the fun as soon as it meets their level of affordability.

Here's the car.

I put some random valuation numbers for sure, I would stand by the 10 - 15% max depreciation for being used. I was comparing a new AMG vs a used Ferrari, on new vs new we have no arguments. You'd have to get invited to a 812 Superfast or F12 TDF style car build slot to straight up make money. Even still, Ferrari takes rarity to an art from, bar California/Portofino, so the cars will bottom out, and the price will generally pick up again.

Different beast for sure, completely, and I'm ignore a massive part in my comparison, which is the amount of cash you need to part with, if nothing else short term, for the car to physically enter your garage. You could argue you're paying in full for all the "free" service and etc, all I said is penny for penny, run cost included, seems a used Ferrari is a better ordeal than a new AMG, I stand by that, considering a 3 year ownership, used Ferrari vs new high end AMG.

 

[CJD]

Threads like this always amuse me, how somebody with such vitriolic hate of any brand, be it Mercedes or whoever - (depending upon which forum it is), finds so much time to pop up time and again to remind us of how rubbish something is, how we should have spent our hard earned cash more wisely, and that we can't really in all honestly enjoy the product.
I can think of much better ways of spending my time, but if it makes you happy.........

 

[WDB124066]

Well I have to sit at this screen in any case. And some people do need a reality check, that's why they raise a thread - no? Or should we say they are great, everything fine, have a toke on this, yay, yee ha. Depends what level of reality you want your rat cage in doesn't it. Blown your front engine seal yet...?

You see MB would not even be allowed to make and use the thing in your avatar, why? You just try getting a cert of airworthiness for it.

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[alfl23]

Threads like this always amuse me, how somebody with such vitriolic hate of any brand, be it Mercedes or whoever - (depending upon which forum it is), finds so much time to pop up time and again to remind us of how rubbish something is, how we should have spent our hard earned cash more wisely, and that we can't really in all honestly enjoy the product.
I can think of much better ways of spending my time, but if it makes you happy.........

CJD sorry if my experience felt like brand hatred, it really isn't. I've owned Diesel S classes for years, and they were absolutely amazing cars, with a run cost that was incredible for the car you were getting, amazing MPG, and I was always in love and amazed with how good they were and how much you got for your money, be it as it is an expensive car. Buying a used non AMG S class was a "no brainer", run cost and everything.

I still think Mercedes has the very best tech for any price range, way above Rolls Royce or Bentley even, and I'd emotionally struggle to part with my daily AMG even after all the things. The design for my taste is also unrivalled, being in an S class for me is better than being home. At the same time, I really didn't expect that buying a more expensive car from Merc for the first time would result in a drastically worse experience, and I thought maybe I got unlucky.

I love my car overall, but it's been a money pit way beyond expectation, maybe I was just naive. I was looking at trading for the 2018 S coupe, and I started doing the full math, which prompted me to ask for comparative experience of wiser people than I am here, who didn't rush to throw cash at Merc hand over fist and got a much better, smoother ownership experience than I have. Read into it however you like, I'm not trying to tell anyone what to buy.

 

[WDB124066]

Reminds me of Air New Zealand, safest airline in the world till they reprogrammed the machinery, told nobody and blamed the pilots, judge said "litany of lies".

Don't kid yourselves guys, you are driving a wannabe look at me piece of xxxx that harks back to an era when they used to care. You've heard of futures trading, lets try this and keep an eye on how long it takes before we need to try something else....

Think Schumacher drove fast all the time to win races..????

Got the concept - the Germans have.

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Fuel system split open and sprayed fuel all over the rear seat yet...? The gas chamber principal is still very much alive in certain parts you know. Worldwide recall to sort the problem, like 5ell!

 

[Iggu]

I want a go on whatever it is you're smoking.

 

[E55BOF]

I'm not sure I do...

I've heard of dealer principals, but gas chamber principals? No; sorry; you've lost me.

 

[AMGeed]

[QUOTE="WDB124066, post: 2584267, member: 24401"

Don't kid yourselves guys, you are driving a wannabe look at me piece of xxxx that harks back to an era when they used to care.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, very harsh. Are you on the sauce tonight?

 

[MancMike]

Buy a Toyota, Lexus or Century at any stage even with 350,000 on it and it will still run forever.

Like I said MB are the worst car manufacturer in the world today. Nobody else compares.

How's the air suspension, ready to collapse...? Then burn a pump out. Thanks Dr. Z.

Don't kid yourselves guys, you are driving a wannabe look at me piece of xxxx that harks back to an era when they used to care. You've heard of futures trading, lets try this and keep an eye on how long it takes before we need to try something else....
Fuel system split open and sprayed fuel all over the rear seat yet...? The gas chamber principal is still very much alive in certain parts you know. Worldwide recall to sort the problem, like 5ell!

You're talking absolute rubbish. What's with all the "has this happened yet?" "Has that happened yet?" No, it's not...

Why are you even on this forum?