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renault12ts
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I thought that was young:bannana::bannana:
Hmmm ,
I'd rather be in a 1950's or 1960's Mercedes than a modern death trap . Even back then , OUR cars were being designed to be driven at speed on the autobahns : my 1957 Ponton and my 1963 Fintail will both be perfectly stable at 100 mph - I've had the Ponton up there many years ago but not the Fintail ( but have driven other examples of the type ) .
Obviously , any car which is going to be driven at high speeds needs to be properly maintained , but the basic design is sound in the case of Mercedes-Benz .
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Re: varible speed limits.
It's hard enough to know what the speed limit is nowadays (I was on an open, rural road yesterday, with no houses, but there were little 40 signs buried in the hedges) without the buggers changing all the time!
No, give me a limit and don't change it
It's hard enough to know what the speed limit is nowadays (I was on an open, rural road yesterday, with no houses, but there were little 40 signs buried in the hedges) without the buggers changing all the time!
No, give me a limit and don't change it
On motorways they have been shown to work rather well around the M25 and M42. With regular over-head gantry signs there's no excuse for not knowing what the speed limit is.
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Don't mind them on motorway, but not on A or, god help us, B roads.
I will repeat.
Most of Europe has a higher motorway limit than us (75 or 80 mph).
Do they have worse motorway accident statistics?
If yes, probably a good indication that our 70 limit is still justified.
If no, probably indicates that our 70 limit is out of date.
Simples
Most of Europe has a higher motorway limit than us (75 or 80 mph).
Do they have worse motorway accident statistics?
If yes, probably a good indication that our 70 limit is still justified.
If no, probably indicates that our 70 limit is out of date.
Simples
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Most of European motorways are a damn sight quieter than our motorways so they can justify a (slightly) higher speed limit to us.
Are they? I've only driven a limited selection but traffic volumes have always seemed pretty similar to the UK, based on day of week & time.
Rovinghawk
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I thought advanced driving involved making progress. I'm fairly sure that both the roadcraft manual & the highway code mention trying to get to the speed limit where safe to do so.
When I took my advanced test, failure to make good progress was grounds for failure; good progress meant achieving the speed limit (or 10% above according to the speedo) whenever possible & safe.
(nb Speed limit on motorways is 70; 60 is well below this & an inconvenience for many)
RH
If 56 mph is the speed limit of many HGVs is it really inconvenient for some cars to be doing 60 mph?
SLKrazy
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simple solution is the nanny state yellow average speed cameras at every junction. The problem is not the speed, it's the bad driving and ignorance that require addressing!!
SLKrazy
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No problem at all, as long as courtesy is adhered to and drivers return to the left asap
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thing is, ok cars have come a long way in the past 10 years wiuth respect to safety, but not all that technology exists on modern cars - base spec Micras or clios probably still have drum brakes on the rear i suspect. same with ABS - i believe some cheaper protons/kias etc didnt/dont have these as standard up to a couple of years ago. then there are the masses of pre-2003 cars on the roads that are either old designs, base spec without extra features or badly maintained. also any stability/traction control is also missing on 80% of current cars..... then you have the driver skill....
leave it as it is IMO - 70mph is fast enough and if people do 80mph then i very much doubt any copper would bother stopping you.
no need to do any fast speed than that IMO as there could quite easily be a slower vehcile in your path. shouldnt really be overtaking things at twice their speed
leave it as it is IMO - 70mph is fast enough and if people do 80mph then i very much doubt any copper would bother stopping you.
no need to do any fast speed than that IMO as there could quite easily be a slower vehcile in your path. shouldnt really be overtaking things at twice their speed
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Yes, you should make good progess when you can but there is nothing wrong in travelling at below the speed limit as long as you don't inconvenience other drivers. As I said, I travel @ 60 in lanes 1 & 2, and speed up to 70 if I need to use lane 3.......
flango
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60 mph would be classed as making progress, remember 70 mph is a MAXIMUM so you would only be driving < 15% below the maximum limit which is quite accepatable. In advanced driving making good progress does not mean achieving the speed limit and is not grounds for failure.
For example if you were out on an advanced drive on the motorway in torrential rain and standing water would you seriously drive at the 70 mph limit, likewise in fog with 50m visibility would you drive at 70 mph? Equally in good visibilty good conditions as long as you are not hindering other road users then 60 mph is fine.
Making progress is totally dependent upon the prevailing conditions, thats why French motorways have lower speed limits when its raining to make sure the idiots slow down.
My opinion as stated many times before, different classes of license depending upon training received and let the people with fast cars who know how to drive them get on with it, no reason why the UK limit cant be raised to 130 kph equivalent and some sections of our motorways at certain times could be de restricted altogether but to use them you should have to prove your ability by an advanced / extended test.
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I think that all mercedes car drivers should have private roads to travel everywhere. These private roads would be funded by the collection of road tax from the owners of other lesser marques.
Unlike normal motorways where there is only one mercedes lane, the private mercedes motorways would have at least 3 mercedes lanes and have no speed limits.
Any mercedes driver caught being a middle lane hog will, with immediate effect be punished by having to drive a BMW.
Unlike normal motorways where there is only one mercedes lane, the private mercedes motorways would have at least 3 mercedes lanes and have no speed limits.
Any mercedes driver caught being a middle lane hog will, with immediate effect be punished by having to drive a BMW.
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oldcro
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I think the best driver is not necessarily the one who passed various advanced driving tests. It is the one you never remember as he never does anything to draw attention to his car. He never holds you up or does anything unexpected. His speed is always correct for the prevailing conditions and he drives defensively and courteously.
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