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Increase Speed Limits - Online Petition

John Jones Jr said:
Note? Monologue more like. There's nothing in it, all plain & obvious stuff bar of course implying that all of the U.K.'s motorway network is clogged up 24/7/365, which of course it's not. Take that fact into account and there's nothing in the post at all. The really sad bit is, one can nearly smell the delight emanating from the post that the limit is seventy.
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Yep, as I said earlier... holier than thous!!!!
 
lewyboy said:
I bet David Cameron is mulling over this very subject , having been alerted to the persuasive petition to increase speed limits, while enjoying his fish fingers and baked beans this tea time.
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"Woof Woof" :D
 
John Jones Jr said:
Note? Monologue more like. There's nothing in it, all plain & obvious stuff bar of course implying that all of the U.K.'s motorway network is clogged up 24/7/365, which of course it's not. Take that fact into account and there's nothing in the post at all. The really sad bit is, one can nearly smell the delight emanating from the post that the limit is seventy.
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Haha, let him wallow in his ignorant bliss... ;)
 
It seems a shame that opinions cant be expressed here without it being referred to as ignorant or sad by some that disagree.
 
Pontoneer said:
Indeed , I remember the incident which led to his ban ; there was an earlier incident , when he was on his way to Glojo's annual 'pilgrimage' , or maybe back from it , and fell foul of the pretty WPC featured on the interceptors programme : his speed that time was around 100 , maybe just over , and earned him points and a fine . I seem to recall the points had come off by the time of the second incident , which has been well documented on several fora .

Following his ban , Steve seems quite humbled and contrite , but then the ban and having to sell his cherished car must have been a bitter pill to swallow .

I know from corresponding with him that his attitude to speed has changed completely , and he is now quite uncomfortable even passengering beside someone driving at all swiftly , even legally .
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......and he takes some stunning photographs.

Mic
 
Well, MoAMG.

I for one would like to thank you for the thread as I suspect you realised you were possibly on a bit a hiding to nothing.

If nothing more it's confirmed my thoughts on the attitudes and views of some motorists. Based on that alone if it's anyway representative of motorists in general you'll have an uphill battle in your crusade to have motorway speed limits increased but as you can see there are some like myself who are in agreement with you, so maybe all is not lost. Its very possible too you might get a better response on another motoring forum when it comes to such topics.

What, I would consider (I've zero experience) if you wish to be really heard even supported by a petition is use a professional lobbyist for such endeavour. Or, a minimum have a petition drafted by a professional with all the i's dotted and t's crossed especially when it comes to factual info. Keeping it plain, concise with simple language might be the most effective as you'd need to reach a broad church.

Anyway, that's my 1p's worth, good luck to you on you mission.
 
John Jones Jr said:
Well, MoAMG.

I for one would like to thank you for the thread as I suspect you realised you were possibly on a bit a hiding to nothing.

If nothing more it's confirmed my thoughts on the attitudes and views of some motorists. Based on that alone if it's anyway representative of motorists in general you'll have an uphill battle in your crusade to have motorway speed limits increased but as you can see there are some like myself who are in agreement with you, so maybe all is not lost. Its very possible too you might get a better response on another motoring forum when it comes to such topics.

What, I would consider (I've zero experience) if you wish to be really heard even supported by a petition is use a professional lobbyist for such endeavour. Or, a minimum have a petition drafted by a professional with all the i's dotted and t's crossed especially when it comes to factual info. Keeping it plain, concise with simple language might be the most effective as you'd need to reach a broad church.

Anyway, that's my 1p's worth, good luck to you on you mission.
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Very well put.

MoAMG, try out the likes of the Mitsubishi Lancer Register and Scoobynet as your quest will be a lot better received on forums like those! They're full of car enthusiasts rather than people who like motorised sofas ;)
 
cb1965 said:
Very well put.

MoAMG, try out the likes of the Mitsubishi Lancer Register and Scoobynet as your quest will be a lot better received on forums like those! They're full of car enthusiasts rather than people who like motorised sofas ;)
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On this occasion I think you are correct.
 
Dryce said:
There are things called speed limit signs, NSL signs, central reservartions, and lamp posts - they're the only things that need to be visible for you to work out the speed limit. The colour or shape of cameras is irrelevant as long as they don't come into conflict with road signage.
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DfT Circular 01/2007:

"Depending upon the enforcement method used, speed camera housings (including tripod-mounted cameras) or the camera operator or the mobile enforcement vehicle should be clearly visible from the driver’s viewpoint at the following minimum visibility distances:
60 metres where the speed limit is 40 mph or less;

100 metres at all other speed limits.
On every occasion before commencing enforcement at a camera site, the enforcement

officer should check that the visibility guidance is met.

(...)

Fixed speed camera housings located within an area of street or highway lighting should be coloured yellow either by painting both the front and back of the housing or covering both the front and back of the housing with retro-reflective sheeting. In an area not covered by street or highway lighting, the speed camera housing should be treated with yellow retro-reflective sheeting. The recommended paint colour is No.363 Bold Yellow of BS381C:1996. The retro-reflective sheeting should meet the requirements of BS EN 12899-1:2001 or a suitable microprismatic sheeting conforming to BS 8408 or an equivalent Standard of a European Economic Area State."
 
The guidance of course does not have the force of law, and if it were to be held in conflict with the correct construction of the legislation, the law would necessarily have to prevail. In light of the above, I believe this, once again, highlights one of the many 'grey' areas within the antiqued RTA.
 
MoAMG said:
highlights one of the many 'grey' areas within the antiqued RTA.
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You're being a bit naive again - guidance is just guidance. The law is the law.

So there is no grey area within the RTA.
 
I would agree that these are more visible than the ones on the back of the gantry. I don't see the problem however I do agree that when the roads are clear the limit should be raised to 80mph.
 
Dryce said:
You're being a bit naive again - guidance is just guidance. The law is the law. So there is no grey area within the RTA.
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You are being a bit selective again. Did you bother to read my follow up post?
 
MoAMG said:
You are being a bit selective again. Did you bother to read my follow up post?
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????

I quoted the post and refered to the comment about the RTA having a grey area.

Don't you read what you write?
 
Dryce said:
???? I quoted the post and refered to the comment about the RTA having a grey area. Don't you read what you write?
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So why did you repeat what I effectively stated??? Another case of holier than thou I think...
 
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