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Almost always in Comfort, although I did run it in Sport when it was new to force the ICE to run as much as possible to run it in a bit. Occasionally use Sport if a brisk overtake is required.
TheCorm
Active Member
I have mine on Individual with Steering and Suspension on Comfort, Engine and Climate on ECO, i'd prefer to have the engine on Comfort too but it doesn't do the higher level of automatic regen in that mode.
I use Sport and Sport + for overtaking stuff, I never use the Eco option. It does annoy me how slow it is at changing from D to R in Eco engine mode though, this results in ruining quick turns in the road and/or engine kicking in and trying to ram parked cars.
TheCorm
Active Member
As you may have read I am on my 2nd set of batteries, after over 1000 charges I had seen around a 20% drop in capacity, took a bit of fighting but I did get new batteries and things are reset but by the time I hand it back I suspect it would have dropped about 10% from when they were fresh. The battery pack had changed design though as it needed a whole new bracket so it could be they've improved things, didn't give me any extra range over when the originals were new though.
Jeddy
Active Member
Yeah, I reverse out of the drive in the default Comfort into the road and it's the same the other way around, it is embarassing waiting for the car to change from R to D. I did try changing gear from R to D before the car had actually quite stopped (while braking) and thought at one point that worked, maybe I'm doing it too late now. I don't think the car will allow you to select it too early.
TheCorm
Active Member
Yeah then it puts it into Neutral of course, I was thinking the other day, why isn't the camera on as I trundled backwards down the hill into a parking space, then realised i had tried to engage too early and it was in Neutral.
CaptainChaos
MB Enthusiast
I use Comfort most of the time. Sport if I need some more oomph. Economy is good in traffic, but the suspension is very harsh.
I play more with the mode button. Now it's dropped cold I start in E-SAVE as it gets the heater going quicker without sapping the electric range. If I know I have a big hill or fast section I also use E-SAVE to save the battery. If I'm close to home and the range is down to 20% I use E-MODE to stop the engine coming on.
I think I'd be really bored if I had a "normal" car now!
I play more with the mode button. Now it's dropped cold I start in E-SAVE as it gets the heater going quicker without sapping the electric range. If I know I have a big hill or fast section I also use E-SAVE to save the battery. If I'm close to home and the range is down to 20% I use E-MODE to stop the engine coming on.
I think I'd be really bored if I had a "normal" car now!
Jeddy
Active Member
Does this Mercedes C-Class review mean that the new C class will only get a mild hybrid and that for C350e acceleration you'd need the C300 2L turbo petrol?
Yep. It looks like the 2.0l 211bhp petrol with an 80bhp electric motor is going and being replaced by a 1.5l 184bhp petrol with a 14bhp electric motor. Not exactly an upgrade...
I’ve just had a browse of their website. It looks like the only plug-ins Mercedes are currently selling are under the Smart brand. As far as I’m aware, it’s going to be at least a year until the EQC arrives, which is going to be electric-only. It’ll be faster than the C350e, but I’m not sure what the range will be. North of 200 miles, surely - but how much is enough?
Jeddy
Active Member
Well I guess that the C300 could work, but why do I get the feeling that the quoted 42mpg is going to be somewhat worse than that in reality.
So you mean that the only reason they were making the PHEVs was because of a bung and as soon as that stops they stop - nothing to do with the environment or anything. I guess they'd argue that it was a stepping stone to the EQC.
How much range is enough partially depends on how fast the recharge is. To my mind, a 200 mile range (less in reality no doubt) really means a sub 100 mile range (assuming you want to get home), ok I rarely do that in a day but when you want to...
I have to say I've still no idea what I'd replace my C350e with. Fortunately no need to decide yet.
So you mean that the only reason they were making the PHEVs was because of a bung and as soon as that stops they stop - nothing to do with the environment or anything. I guess they'd argue that it was a stepping stone to the EQC.
How much range is enough partially depends on how fast the recharge is. To my mind, a 200 mile range (less in reality no doubt) really means a sub 100 mile range (assuming you want to get home), ok I rarely do that in a day but when you want to...
I have to say I've still no idea what I'd replace my C350e with. Fortunately no need to decide yet.
LeggySilverfox
New Member
That’s a shame. I’ve got mine for another 2 years fortunately. Just assumed they’d be a newer version available when it was time to change. 200 mile range isn’t any use if you travel for business.
CaptainChaos
MB Enthusiast
The article says
"Mercedes currently has no plug-in hybrids available to order but will start selling them again within the next two months, starting with the S-class and E-class models. The C class is not due until next year, a spokesman said. All will record under 50g/km of CO2, he said."
I'm reading that as a temporary setback, not a permanent stop. I think the headline is a bit "Daily Mail".
Jeddy
Active Member
Looking at the MB configurator, while it shows the new models with 9 speed gearboxes, it doesn't show any hybrids, so I'm assuming it is the mild hybrid which will be available next year. No telling whether they'd follow it with a hotter hybrid I guess, unless someone is in the know?The article says
"Mercedes currently has no plug-in hybrids available to order but will start selling them again within the next two months, starting with the S-class and E-class models. The C class is not due until next year, a spokesman said. All will record under 50g/km of CO2, he said."
I'm reading that as a temporary setback, not a permanent stop. I think the headline is a bit "Daily Mail".
CaptainChaos
MB Enthusiast
I don't think you'd get a mild hybrid under 50CO2? I would have thought you'd need the whole plug-in setup.
I just think they've nothing to release yet, so there's nothing to show.
grober
MB Master
Jeddy
Active Member
This isn't clear to me, when the article says
Also, what is the CO2 of the C350e? A quick look at the carbuyer website says 48g/km. All of which makes no sense to me.
'Mercedes currently has no plug-in hybrids available to order but will start selling them again within the next two months, starting with the S-class and E-class models. The C class is not due until next year, a spokesman said. All will record under 50g/km of CO2, he said.'
is the C200 1.5L mild hybrid a plug-in or just a non-plug in hybrid? Also, what is the CO2 of the C350e? A quick look at the carbuyer website says 48g/km. All of which makes no sense to me.
CaptainChaos
MB Enthusiast
The mild hybrid doesn’t plug in. It’s like the Toyota system - OK for long-journey economy, but rubbish for short journeys, so it doesn’t do well in the economy tests. I think it’s about 130g/km.
It’s quite funny that @CaptainChaos called Electrek “a bit Daily Mail”. I expect someone at Electrek just died a little.
grober
MB Master
Hybrid would appear to cover a multitude of sins in Mercedes parlance. Mercedes latest mild 48volt systems would appear to qualify for the sobriquet "hybrid" despite appearing to be in essence a more sophisticated stop start system with a transmission inline generator/starter + battery and in some cases an electric turbocharger . Rechargeable its not. That facility appears to be the province of high voltage battery systems. To fall below the 50g/km threshold would appear to demand greater high voltage battery capacity.