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C63 Coupe "Soup to Nuts"

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On the c63bs mb say max 4k revs for first 1k miles i think this applies to all the m156 engines.

The advice is the same for the M159 also.
Max 4K then gradually increase the revs as the miles go on. It just helps everything ‘bed in’. The engine begins to ‘free-up’ after around 1,500 miles or so, but even after 2,500 it is still getting more vocal…
 
I can't understand why anyone would go against a manufacturers recommendations, surely they know best. I will be running mine in by the book.
 
The advice is the same for the M159 also.
Max 4K then gradually increase the revs as the miles go on. It just helps everything ‘bed in’. The engine begins to ‘free-up’ after around 1,500 miles or so, but even after 2,500 it is still getting more vocal…

Good to hear it's going to be getting louder. That can only be a good thing :D

I can't understand why anyone would go against a manufacturers recommendations, surely they know best. I will be running mine in by the book.

Do you really think the Manufacturer calculates/tests this to such a degree that they can say that you're absolutely fine once you've hit 1000 miles to go round bouncing off of the rev limiter? It's a big fat safety margin. The fact of it is, as I had said on another thread, the important aspects are the bedding of the transmission/brakes/tyres. However I can guarantee that you're lovely new engine will have already been run to the limiter both on the test bench and in the assembly plant (rolling road) and will have had a good shake-down on road test, all of which before it even leaves the facility.

I can you this as an Engineer in the Automotive industry who has worked for multiple car manufactureres (one also with 'hand-built' engines), in multiple Plants around the World. This is the way the car industry works!
 
Good to hear it's going to be getting louder. That can only be a good thing :D



Do you really think the Manufacturer calculates/tests this to such a degree that they can say that you're absolutely fine once you've hit 1000 miles to go round bouncing off of the rev limiter? It's a big fat safety margin. The fact of it is, as I had said on another thread, the important aspects are the bedding of the transmission/brakes/tyres. However I can guarantee that you're lovely new engine will have already been run to the limiter both on the test bench and in the assembly plant (rolling road) and will have had a good shake-down on road test, all of which before it even leaves the facility.

I can you this as an Engineer in the Automotive industry who has worked for multiple car manufactureres (one also with 'hand-built' engines), in multiple Plants around the World. This is the way the car industry works!

Sorry ghibbert but when it comes to taking advice on cars i am going to listen to the manufacturer. Of course it is your prerogative to do as you please but i don't think it is the wisest decision to broadcast your non compliance on a mb website.
 
^+1 Good housekeeping to stick to mb guidelines.
 
Sorry ghibbert but when it comes to taking advice on cars i am going to listen to the manufacturer.

And the Manufacturer is who...? The people who work there ;)

But I fully respect those that wish to follow the guidelines. Hey, it can even be fun :D
 
When they have theior PDI at the dealer. They will red lined at every opertunity.
 
All points registered. I got to my destination in a fairly lively way last night without even needing to break 4k revs anyway. I love it and boy can this thing torque ;-)
Anyway I have to go, I have lots of needless driving to do :-)
 
So here is the 6 month report

Total mileage : 5264
MPG : 19.7
Costs : £33 (2 litres of oil)
Cost to the other guy's insurers : probably lots...

No servicing yet and tyres holding up pretty well.

While Brunhilde is laid up for some reconstructive surgery I thought I would try to sum up the ownership experience to date. I have already gone into the ordering and dealer experience in some detail so I'm going to focus on the car.

The looks of the coupe can be divisive, but I have to say they have grown on me. You really need to see one in the flesh as pictures can be deceptive, but there is a purposeful, understated aggression to the sleeker stance of the coupe, and no shortage of road presence. It certainly stands out in the supermarket car park and 99% of comments from passers by have been positive.

As you would expect for a small car lugging around a 6.2 V8 the engine dominates every piece of the experience. While the steering may be quick and accurate (despite being a little slack around the straight-ahead when driving in a straight line), and the chassis nicely balanced, the big lump out front is the alpha and the omega. It is a masterpiece of engineering; responsive, explosive, endless power with linear delivery and a soundtrack from the lower levels of pandemonium. It is an awesome, and at times slightly unnerving, device.

What you slowly come to realise however is that Mercedes have not built a car here. They have built a cage to try to keep the monster in check. It really is that dominant, and anything not specifically there to showcase the engineering is secondary. And this is where the first of the cracks appear. Build quality...

The materials used in the cabin and exterior are first rate. The plastics soft, the aluminium paddles brushed nicely and cool to touch, the leather just the right side of "too shiny". Likewise the design shows flair and class. Unfortunately it is not bolted together as well as you would expect from a 60k car. The drivetrain feels bulletproof but the cabin is a martyr to rattling trim and vibrating vents. A VW Golf built like this would not pass quality control, despite the superior materials used. It is a common complaint from C63 owners it seems and is bad enough to be distracting. When she returns from the body shop this is getting taken up with the dealer.

Despite the dubious build quality of the cabin the rest of the experience is overwhelmingly positive. On an open road the sheer performance available is in a different league to 99% of the other traffic on the road. This is really brought home when you are waiting to overtake a truck on a dual carriageway which is overtaking another. One of those rolling roadblocks we all love following for miles. When the one in front eventually completes the manoeuvre and moves over you complete the overtake. The hot hatch that had been crawling all over your rear bumper rapidly becomes a speck in the mirror. It is the ease with which this happens that makes you re-evaluate the comparative performance

When things get twisty the steering weights up nicely in the corners and is direct enough to inspire confidence to carve through the turn, making the most of the flat chassis. Various ESP systems keep everything in check, although can be a bit heavy handed. Be careful if you switch them "fully" off however, as it is so easy to get the back moving - LSD or not...

This brings me to another thing about the AMG as your everyday wheels - self control. Brunhilde only really lifts her skirts and makes for the horizon when everything really hooks up with the road north of 60mph. It is then only a second or two before you become very attractive to anything in white and blue (or yellow with a flash and a roll of film). And you get there VERY fast. There is always a slight sense that the real fun is about to start just when you need to put a lid on it. Not the fault of the car for sure, and after all there are race tracks out there. You need to be careful nonetheless as going 20mph faster than you thought you were is not an acceptable excuse in a court of law.

I have only done a dozen or so 100+ mile trips but another nice feature is the way the C63 chomps through the motorway miles. The ride is firm, but( if you can ignore the rattles and creaks) a 250 mile trip is pretty effortless. Range from the 66 litre tank is around 300 miles, and with £100 or so to fill it with super unleaded that's around 30p a mile in go juice.

Special mention to the excellent seats(although do they really need to move thaaaat slooowly when trying to let someone in/out of the back?) and I really like the COMAND online system. At the moment I am chugging around in a Range Rover Vogue. It may have more toys than a branch of Hamleys but the COMAND system on the C is far more intuitive and user friendly than the touch screen button-fest of the tonka toy.

So really a fun 5000 mile intro to the C63 Coupe. BUT that build quality is a real issue. Hopefully I can get it looked at in more detail with the dealer once she gets home. I know I owe some pics as well. There will be plenty before Xmas. Promise...

The Good
THAT engine, accurate steering through corners, confident handling, tremendous drivetrain, competent cruiser, COMAND online, NOISE! Did I mention the engine...?

The Bad
Some slack in the steering at straight ahead, slightly harsh ride on bad surfaces (19" wheels), even 7/10ths only reachable on the roads at license threatening speeds.

The Ugly
Rattling trim, drivers of AMG-seeking Vauxhall Combi vans
 
The C63 has been in the body shop for the expected 2 weeks now and word is it's going to be another week before I get her back.

Big job apparently, which I can understand noting the size of the panel that got bent

K
 
The C63 has been in the body shop for the expected 2 weeks now and word is it's going to be another week before I get her back.

Big job apparently, which I can understand noting the size of the panel that got bent

K

interesting thoughts khamen, my brother takes delivery of his car next week. will be interesting.........
 
After 3 weeks in the shop I have just picked her up.


I have to say the guys at MG Cannon in Salisbury appear to have done a first rate job on initial inspection. Paint match on the new panel is perfect and they also did the tracking, which was the tiniest bit out.

Having got used to a lofty Range Rover getting back in the C63 was like slipping behind the wheel of a Caterham. I also realised how much I have been missing the extra weight and feel of the steering. Interestingly the slight vagueness around straight-ahead seems to be less noticeable. Whether this is a result of the tracking being sorted or purely subjective after the heavily-assisted steering on the 4x4 is too early to say

Am hoping to get some good pics over the weekend so will post up soon

K
 
Quick snap from earlier this morning
 

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Oh aye that's it!

Straight back from the Body shop all shiny and new, and you park it straight up in the salty Sea water! :rolleyes:


;)
 
Quick snap from earlier this morning

That looks great. I have just purchased a property in penzance imo the best part of the UK. I plan to spend alot of the summer there.
 
A note on insurance.

I obviously can't take out a policy for the new car yet but have done plenty of enquiring. As usual my current provider is basically useless, particularly as the new car slots neatly into my renewal term.

Without going into the gory details I had a good rummage - 40-something, car garaged, 12k p.a. low risk postcode area.

No claims is 4 years - before this I was driving on a fleet policy for 5 years (with no claims) but good old insurance co.s don't give a toss about this and don't count them, letter or no.

License is in good shape, although not spotless with 3 points for speeding a few years back still hanging around.

I had heard that people had got some stupid quotes on this car, up to £4k. I was pleasantly surprised that the best quote I could find was under £800 fully comp with a £750 excess. Most expensive was pushing £2k.

Of course when I am actually in a position to take out a policy I'm sure it's not going to really be £800...

K

My '63 arrived two weeks ago and the insurance for 10,000 miles pa is £340 from Aviva - MB's recommended company. I know I'm old - 55. But hell that is cheap. 370Z some companies wouldn't insure. Whereas the GTR we had was £660.
 
My '63 arrived two weeks ago and the insurance for 10,000 miles pa is £340 from Aviva - MB's recommended company. I know I'm old - 55. But hell that is cheap. 370Z some companies wouldn't insure. Whereas the GTR we had was £660.

Thats very good, i thought mine was cheap at 420 but i am 10 years younger than you.
 
Oh aye that's it!

Straight back from the Body shop all shiny and new, and you park it straight up in the salty Sea water!

It's on a 36 month lease, why would He care?
 
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