Definative explination.... Pull left

[whitenemesis]

They quoted me £99

They did the full geo measurement and found the camber was OOS but as my car has AIRmatic they put the car on STAR and checked the ride heights and levelled the car correctly. Once correctly set-up the geo was redone and everything spot on.

Took them best part of 1.5hrs, still only paid £99

Car tracks straight and true

 

[dubsR33]

problem with my clk i think there is no camber adjust on the rears possibly?

 

[Haroon]

Hey all, I just noticed this problem with my c class coupe yesterday. Called up Merc in Teesside and the woman knew without thinking a second, the problem wrong with my car. She blasted out a price £120+VAT then said it's not covered under warrenty.....bare in mind at this point it didn't even speak a word for a few minutes when I told her the problem.....so how the F did she know what I was about to say??? haha

The car is a 2013 which has just touched 3000 miles yesterday, had her since June 2013 lol

Anyways!

I went to my local tyre shop, the lads there checked my tyre pressures and one tyre one down by 1 psi unit of air, so he pumped them all up for me.

Drove out the tyre shop and the car is flying! Really smooth and responsive, and I don't notice the left pull anymore.

I have pirellii p-zero run flats, so could be the tyre??

 

[dubsR33]

They quoted me £99

They did the full geo measurement and found the camber was OOS but as my car has AIRmatic they put the car on STAR and checked the ride heights and levelled the car correctly. Once correctly set-up the geo was redone and everything spot on.

Took them best part of 1.5hrs, still only paid £99

Car tracks straight and true

I dont suppose you have a contact number for Swindon?

Ive literally just wasted about 15-20 minutes on the phone talking to MB in Bristol they are USELESS.
was constantly being put on hold after explaining what i wanted, then put onto the next woman who i explained the same thing again only to be put onto another woman etc etc... Highly frustrating

they kept saying i could book it in and they could 'take a look' - i then explained i don't want to book it in for you to take a look without fixing the problem. I already know what the problem is, i don't want to pay a bill from someone to tell me what i already know before they actually do anything about it!

ugh

 

[Nthkentman]

Did *all* the front suspension bushes and new tyres fitted.
Runs straight n true now.

 

[johnthornhill]

Thank goodness I red this

I bought my 2010 C350 CDI sport about a month ago. When I test drove it I noticed it pulling to the left on most roads and the steering wheel was not centred when going in a straight line. (not a lot but annoying as the middle bit of the steering wheel diagonal). The garage said oh its just the wheel alignment we will sort this for you when you collect it.

Went and collected but no they hadn't and it had the same problem but I just though I cant be bothered wasting time and I had a long drive home.

Went to kwik-fit 3 times and 3 times they didn't get it right. Same problem no change, they even changed the 2 front wheels over, I had 2 new front tyres and still no change. Kwik-fit finally suggested I take it to MB.

The usual answer from them they actually replied it was a characteristic of MB to pull to the left but if I wanted to have the alignment done with them it would be £410 but that might not fix it. I was fuming!!! thinking how will I ever get this problem sorted out.

I then realised my car still has warranty from the car garage where I bought it and they have booked me into Elite Direct Tyres in Rainham so hopefully they can sort it, if they cant after reading this I will be straight over to blackboots as they seem to understand and know what they are doing by the sounds of it.

Kwik-fit :failwould rather you drove around in a car that pulls to the left and steering wheel all over the place than fix the damn problem.

I don't care about MBs factory settings that they are going by I just want my car to drive like it should (like my previous one did) in a straight line.

vent over

 

[renault12ts]

I bought my 2010 C350 CDI sport about a month ago. When I test drove it I noticed it pulling to the left on most roads and the steering wheel was not centred when going in a straight line. (not a lot but annoying as the middle bit of the steering wheel diagonal). The garage said oh its just the wheel alignment we will sort this for you when you collect it.

Went and collected but no they hadn't and it had the same problem but I just though I cant be bothered wasting time and I had a long drive home.

Went to kwik-fit 3 times and 3 times they didn't get it right. Same problem no change, they even changed the 2 front wheels over, I had 2 new front tyres and still no change. Kwik-fit finally suggested I take it to MB.

The usual answer from them they actually replied it was a characteristic of MB to pull to the left but if I wanted to have the alignment done with them it would be £410 but that might not fix it. I was fuming!!! thinking how will I ever get this problem sorted out.

I then realised my car still has warranty from the car garage where I bought it and they have booked me into Elite Direct Tyres in Rainham so hopefully they can sort it, if they cant after reading this I will be straight over to blackboots as they seem to understand and know what they are doing by the sounds of it.

Kwik-fit :failwould rather you drove around in a car that pulls to the left and steering wheel all over the place than fix the damn problem.

I don't care about MBs factory settings that they are going by I just want my car to drive like it should (like my previous one did) in a straight line.

vent over

Nice vent...you blame KF...but not MB who said it was a characteristic of the car!

 

[johnthornhill]

Nice vent...you blame KF...but not MB who said it was a characteristic of the car!

I blame both, MB for not sorting the problem, instead hiding behind "its a characteristic of the car" and KF for not seeing there's a problem and just rectifying it, as the garage mentioned in previous posts does.

One is the cars manufacturer and the other specialises in wheel alignment according to their advert and both can't/won't rectify my cars problem.

 

[Amgbenz99]

Brought these from rakuten look to be a good buy good quality

AutoParts | Rakuten.co.uk Shopping: 4 x Mercedes Benz Centre Caps 75MM Blue Silver E Class C AMG AB CL CLK SLK

 

[4life211]

I have recently changed my power steering rack in my E 270 cdi 2003 because of defect.My new power steering rack is taken from w211 2007 car.It has a place when to connect a sensor.But , my e270 cdi 2003 doesn't have a cable to connect a sensor.can i adapt this PSWR of 2007 to work on my w211 e270 cdi?????
thanks in advance.

 

[whitenemesis]

Sounds like the 2007 car had Parametric steering and your 2003 doesn't?

 

[4life211]

yes you'r right WHITENEMESIS.and now i have connected the rack valve sensor direct in 12v .My steering wheel is very very light .In high speed it becomes too light.Using it in city is very enjoyfull,parking ,slow speed .i don't know what to do .Every opinion would be nice from you. ??????

 

[4life211]

Sounds like the 2007 car had Parametric steering and your 2003 doesn't?

yes you'r right WHITENEMESIS.and now i have connected the rack valve sensor direct in 12v .My steering wheel is very very light .In high speed it becomes too light.Using it in city is very enjoyfull,parking ,slow speed .i don't know what to do .Every opinion would be nice from you. ??????

 

[Minden99]

WM bang on comments. We had such an issue in Israel and Australia due to excessive cambers on roads the importers ended up bending axle beams to suit local road issues.

 

[VictorG]

I really do not want to get into a technical debate with the original poster but as an ex Mercedes Technician (now lecturing in motor vehicle technology) and in charge of our dealerships 4 wheel alignment bay at that time, I do feel that I am qualified to comment.
If all that is being stated here is: that a car will naturally steer with the camber of a road then isn't that like say if you put a chocolate Santa in front of the fire is will melt...PRETTY OBVIOUS! springs to mind and happens with all makes & models of cars.
Would anyone actually want to compensate by offsetting/adjusting to extremes of tolerance...I certainly wouldn't given that you often drive on a flat road 'the crown' or on the continent where this type of compensation would lead to an even greater pull the opposite way.
If however, you are driving on 'the crown' of a road (straight down the middle) obviously only advisable on an empty road....and the steering is still bias towards the left, you definitely have an issue.
I don't agree will the OP when he said: The MB chassis build is superb, tolerance's are minute allowing little future correction at the chassis in the event angles would change. In truth this is a fantastic statement since most modern cars allow for chassis corrections during the cars lifespan.
MB chassis might well be built to a higher tolerance but of ALL the manufacturers Mercedes have always designed their suspension & steering with a multitude of adjusters.
Most other manufacturers have non adjustable Camber or Caster with the ONLY adjustment being Toe.

If I am honest I think that this thread is pointless......it just states the obvious, suggests solutions but then advises not to follow them (thank god).
If it has any point at all, it is to remind owners that the camber built into all roads does occasionally lead to steering pull and not to mistake it for an actual fault. That last statement is 'THE STICKY' just delete everything else.



Martin

Came to the post to say exactly the same.

This post is a total nonsense.

Im not saying that WIM don´t know their job, but explaining the pulling left problems in terms of road crown is idiotic.

If the cause of pulling is ONLY the road camber, then you dont have any pulling problem to solve, much less by changing the geometry out of values to compensate that road. This is absurd.

Mercedes seems to have real pulling problems because as soon as someone touches suspension elements, the car is ruined, and thats the 2nd idiotic statement, that this happens because the Mercedes chasis is "too good".

Is not that good if is so difficult and expensive to keep in order, call it Mercedes, BMW or Bentley.

I never had such problems in my underrated Alfa Romeo I own for 15 years in a country in mainland whose roads have same cambers as any road in the world no matter which side.

Im not a mechanic but Im not idiot and have lots of common sense.

 

[markjay]

Just to say that 'pulling to the left' is an issue that can affect any car, not just Mercedes. It's a very common complaint. And can be caused by any number of issues - road camber, tyre pull, wheel alignment issue or even by design. The difficulty is in identifying the cause or causes in any particular case.

 

[VictorG]

Just to say that 'pulling to the left' is an issue that can affect any car, not just Mercedes. It's a very common complaint. And can be caused by any number of issues - road camber, tyre pull, wheel alignment issue or even by design. The difficulty is in identifying the cause or causes in any particular case.

yes, it must be very difficult, because there is no single f mechanic able to solve it.

apparently they dont have internet at home either, or they use it only for porn. They know nothing about this issue and say that never heard about it.

 

[wheels-inmotion]

VictorG while i agree with freedom of speech i find you very rude and for someone familiar with chassis calibration you speak as if all the owners with pulling issues are lying?

As i am sure you are aware the road crown on most cars will generate an eventual drift but not a physical pull. The MB in many cases proves a physical pull. I'm sure you're also aware the datum offered by MB is a suggestion not the law.

Taking things to the extreme the likes of Nascar/ Indycar stagger the angles when racing on an oval meaning the numbers within the geometry are not just numbers but a configuration of forces.

The manipulation of the castor angle will and does encourage the cars tendency toward the crown and belay the pull left.

Obviously our customers and myself are imagining this and you will offer a better solution?

 

[Max Shine]

Have had mine checked today as mine pulls to left when I let go of steering wheel - garage said tracking was spot on - guess this is normal then

 

[wheels-inmotion]

There is a tendency to pull left but it's curable... Have a read of the begging of this thread.