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I’m in no way culpable. I don’t race, and if did them I wouldn’t enter races I don’t stand a chance of winning.If you have not yet decided then you are one confused individual BD.
If you were not culpable in any way then you have no decision to take.
If you were culpable in some way, then you should not have posted.
...If you were not culpable in any way then you have no decision to take...
1) Not angry - I like a good debate and questioning absurd statements.Why are you so angry?
Which reply are you referring to? The one about Cobalt? That was already addressed, there’s already a new battery technology out that is cobalt free… (LFP) Which is being used in increasing numbers of EVs. Steps are also being taken to improve supply chains… and the recycling of EV batteries is already being heavily looked into… BTW an old battery isn’t just tossed into landfill, it still has a massive value (several thousand pounds) and cells are removed and used for home storage etc…. Cobalt is also used in the refinement of crude oil…
The one about ‘the electricity being used being from non-renewables’ is also nonsense… the grid is getting cleaner year on year, most people charging up overnight are on Octopus Go which is a 100% renewable tariff (meaning they match your use with renewable energy production), also Tesla Superchargers for example are all powered by 100% renewable energy (via offset if necessary)…
P.S. even if you use non-renewables to generate electricity to then power an EV, burning the ‘non-renewable’ (which in the U.K. is almost exclusively natural gas) in a power plant is far more efficient than fuel in an internal combustion engine, so it’s still the lesser of two evils…
Your reply about ‘recharging being a waste of your life’ was answered by my point that 95% of charging takes place overnight when you are asleep… and the odd rapid DC charge only takes 30 mins or so anyway, which on a long trip can be combined with a regular stop…
I’m not sure what else to say here… you obviously have a set in stone thought on the topic… which is fine. I was once the same. Reading articles online and actually owning and living with one for a year is totally different.
There’s sources for all these facts above, but I’ve already wasted enough of my time as it is with this reply, so I won’t bother.
With many nostalgic thoughts and wishing we had them back!A lot of people are scared of change… the same probably happened when the horse & cart was replaced.
I’m sure in the not so distance future people will look back on internal combustion as we now look back at steam railway locomotives…
Was there anyone saying that on this thread till people jumped on about Cobalt etc? It seems to me that most ICE drivers are the ones who actively go out of their way to argue.What I do find irritating are the virtue signallers who will buy an EV and then become 'holier than thou’ wrt petrochemicals and the HORROR of coal mining and oil extraction and their use. They are usually very robust in defence of their EV.
Is that even a question? Surely it’s pretty self explanatory…Someone commented about cobalt and you asked if they have given up their battery powered electroncis. Why?
Have you given up every product that contains petrochemical derived components & what about all the plastic components in an EV?
It was about a fast accelerating car, but the anti-EVrs speak loudly… I should ignore them reallyWhat was this thread about?
Topic police? As many threads, we digress.What was this thread about?
It seems to me that most EV drivers are the ones who actively go out of their way to virtue signal.It seems to me that most ICE drivers are the ones who actively go out of their way to argue.
Who said I’m upset? I still stand by my point.It seems to me that most EV drivers are the ones who actively go out of their way to virtue signal.
You’ve been disingenuous about comments made by me and others and took my comments about charging out of context.
I’ll ask again. Where did I say I was anti EV?
You're upset because I commented on your ludicrous comparison between batteries in an EV and owning laptops, phones, tablets etc. Just own it instead.
"Hasta la vitsa baby." (The Terminator)
Again you are misquoting and or not understanding my commentsWho said I’m upset? I still stand by my point.
If you really cared about the Cobalt issue so deeply then why not give up all battery powered devices? or do you only care about it when you have a debate? or is it ok because they have comparatively less in them as the batteries are smaller?
Was thinking exactly the same thing. Just hope they don't do something silly and ban coal altogether (as they are trying to do now).With many nostalgic thoughts and wishing we had them back!
EVs aren't the solution to all our planet's problem, granted, but:
(a) EVs produce zero harmful exhaust emissions, and the air pollution currently involved in producing the electricity for EVs is taking place far away from busy city centres and residential neighbourhoods.
I take your point.Again you are misquoting and or not understanding my comments
I never raised the point about cobalt mining etc. All I said is that there is a lot more cobalt in an EV than in laptops etc. I never mentioned any pros or cons.
Please try to read and understand what I write, instead of accusing me of something that is a figment of your imagination.
2.5 miles as the crow flies is a pretty big distance compared to ICE emissions 6 foot outside your front door?Sorry but that statement isn't true. I can take a picture out of my home office window right now, in which you would see the six cooling towers and main stack of Ratcliffe power station. Ratcliffe is 2.5 miles as the crow flies from my house. It's a similar distance from Nottingham and a lot of out of town housing - so not really 'far away' from anywhere.
That wasn't the point, 2.5 miles is hardly 'far away' from anywhere - if the wind is the in wrong direction then all the emissions pass over one of the many populated areas in that radius.2.5 miles as the crow flies is a pretty big distance compared to ICE emissions 6 foot outside your front door?
Fair enough, I guess that shows the importance of transitioning to renewable power. Luckily the grid gets cleaner and cleaner with time.That wasn't the point, 2.5 miles is hardly 'far away' from anywhere - if the wind is the in wrong direction then all the emissions pass over one of the many populated areas in that radius.
Still way more efficient pollution wise (as in pollution created per mile driven) to use electricity from that power station (2.5 miles away!) than it is to run the car on petrol......and I would never buy an EV.....but that not because I'm anti them. I would never buy a dog....but I like dogs.2.5 miles as the crow flies is a pretty big distance compared to ICE emissions 6 foot outside your front door?
Which is the best oilWhat was this thread about?
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