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Formula 1 2020 (Will Contain Race Day Spoilers)

Well at least we know he can drive one handed...and look over his shoulder to check a blind spot...
Well if he weaves about in F1 like he did in F2 at the weekend, he is going to be in a big accident pretty soon. Very poor driving standards, surprised the stewards didn’t penalise him.
 
Seems he had plenty of experience of bad behaviour with bans f among other acts, thumping a driver in the face...

A definite champ in the mould of Senna and Schumacher.

Goodness knows what Haas see in him ......
 
Seems he had plenty of experience of bad behaviour with bans f among other acts, thumping a driver in the face...

A definite champ in the mould of Senna and Schumacher.

Goodness knows what Haas see in him ......
Daddy’s money...
 
Hamilton to race in Abu Dhabi

Lewis Hamilton will take part in this weekend's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix after testing negative for Covid-19.

The seven-time world champion missed the Sakhir Grand Prix in Bahrain last weekend after contracting coronavirus.
Hamilton, 35, arrived in Abu Dhabi on Thursday after completing 10 days of quarantine in Bahrain.

Fellow Briton, George Russell, 22, who starred on his Mercedes debut at the Sakhir Grand Prix as Hamilton's stand-in, will now return to Williams.

Formula 1's governing body the FIA confirmed that Hamilton had returned a "number of negative Covid-19 tests" before travelling for the final race of the season.
 
Is being a great driver, being in a great team down to being in the right place at the right time.
Over the past 40 to 50 years all of the so called great champions, ( Senna, Prost, Lauda, Schumacher, Vettel and Hamilton to name a few ) were also in the fastest cars of that era.
If Brundle had got a Williams drive during their great days would he have been a champion. There are and were some brilliant drivers that never really got the chance in that special team of the time.
Look at Senna in the Toleman, definitely not even the third best team on the grid :) and unlike some, he never got backing from a world championship winning team whilst he was still at school!! I'm trying to think about any F1 World Champion that never had the best car on the grid. Graham Hill perhaps with the mighty BRM? :)
 
Look at Senna in the Toleman, definitely not even the third best team on the grid :) and unlike some, he never got backing from a world championship winning team whilst he was still at school!! I'm trying to think about any F1 World Champion that never had the best car on the grid. Graham Hill perhaps with the mighty BRM? :)
Ok, I looked.

Ret, 6th, 6th, DNQ, Ret, 2nd, 7th, Ret, Ret, 3rd Ret Ret Ret n/a* Ret 3rd
*Stefan Johansson 4th

The second in Monaco was if I recall a very wet race which (like Donnington years later for Ayrton, Spa for Michael when he ran into Coulthard, Silverstone for Lewis etc.) is clearly a leveller where Senna driving impeccably, was homing in on a struggling Prost and the race was stopped early (probably a certain Mssr Balestre protecting his man).

Overall, the car that year was very unreliable or easily broken such that the cars only finished about half the races. The Hart engine (was that the one with the integrated cylinder head? I can’t remember) was never quite up there with the big boys. Either way not exactly a stellar season on balance. On the other hand Johansson managed a 4th place in Canada. So when it didn’t break, the car had some pace.
 
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So it turns out my memory still works; the Hart 415T did have an integrated cylinder block and head, avoiding the potential weakness associated with a cylinder head joint, (which may or may not include a gasket).

 
Ok, I looked.

Ret, 6th, 6th, DNQ, Ret, 2nd, 7th, Ret, Ret, 3rd Ret Ret Ret n/a* Ret 3rd
*Stefan Johansson 4th
Yup, your memory is spot and whilst
Ok, I looked.

Ret, 6th, 6th, DNQ, Ret, 2nd, 7th, Ret, Ret, 3rd Ret Ret Ret n/a* Ret 3rd
*Stefan Johansson 4th

The second in Monaco was if I recall a very wet race which (like Donnington years later for Ayrton, Spa for Michael when he ran into Coulthard, Silverstone for Lewis etc.) is clearly a leveller where Senna driving impeccably, was homing in on a struggling Prost and the race was stopped early (probably a certain Mssr Balestre protecting his man).

Overall, the car that year was very unreliable or easily broken such that the cars only finished about half the races. The Hart engine (was that the one with the integrated cylinder head? I can’t remember) was never quite up there with the big boys. Either way not exactly a stellar season on balance. On the other hand Johansson managed a 4th place in Canada. So when it didn’t break, the car had some pace.
Yup, your memory is spot-on and unlike the other drivers you mention in this post, the Toleman was not ever a front-row qualifying car especially when compared to those driven by others you mention in this same post. Was Senna screwed over by Balestre? :) Some folks believed Senna should be disqualified for leaving the track or cutting a corner others thought he was treated harshly... Sounds fair to me :)

I am always suggesting that at a race week-end all the current f1 drivers should participate in a saloon car race with identical cars and the results userd for the F1 grid. This gives more entertainment for the spectators, more entertainment and a level playing field for folks to judge drivers.

When I went to Nigel Mansell's abode, I was allowed to see all his personal trophies. One of which was presented to him by the Ferrari tifosi, they called him something like Il Leone and presented him with a very nice trophy. Yup they knew what they liked and liked what they saw. We all have our favourite drivers, I just like seeing the very best in cars that should not win races be that in the wet, dry or perhaps sand-covered tracks!! :)

I just hope that George Russell gets some type of recognition for what he did at Mercedes.
 
^^ I don’t think there’s much doubt that Ayrton was screwed over by Balestre, who I think demonstrated several times that he was anything but unbiased.

Interesting idea to set the grid via driving saloon/touring cars, though I don’t agree with it. Compared to F1 cars, saloon cars are for me dull, dull, dull. Just encourages banger car driving tactics. Nope, very much not my cup of tea.
 
As the stereotype biased Frenchman, Balestre did his nations reputation no good at all. My recollection is that he was symbolic of all that was wrong with F1 governance and almost a hate figure among UK F1 fans in the 80's. I'm sure he did some good things but they were overshadowed by his arrogance.
 
As the stereotype biased Frenchman, Balestre did his nations reputation no good at all. My recollection is that he was symbolic of all that was wrong with F1 governance and almost a hate figure among UK F1 fans in the 80's. I'm sure he did some good things but they were overshadowed by his arrogance.

Followed by Max Mosley ......
 
^^ I don’t think there’s much doubt that Ayrton was screwed over by Balestre, who I think demonstrated several times that he was anything but unbiased.

Interesting idea to set the grid via driving saloon/touring cars, though I don’t agree with it. Compared to F1 cars, saloon cars are for me dull, dull, dull. Just encourages banger car driving tactics. Nope, very much not my cup of tea.
Hi Gee,
I understand your point about saloon cars but historically it worked although I was only a youngster and cannot recall if it had any affect on grid positions. If drivers realise that spinning off, or causing a collision on a first lap, will see them at the back of the grid on the Sunday, they will quickly get the message that if they want pole, they have to finish.

I'm with you regarding your comments about it becoming banger type racing and hopefully this could be avoide and boy was it good watching the World's best drivers racing each other in saloon cars. Don't knock it until you see it :) :)

Yup, I accept it will not happen in my lifetime :(

What a difference a week makes in F1

Last week I dared to suggest that Bottas was doing the development during the first practices. That suggestion went down like a lead balloon and folks were all judgiing Russell on those frist practice events. Following their logic and comparing like with like. Russell beats Bottas, Bottas gets the boot to make way for the 'faster' driver. here we are seven days on and ooops..... Bottas beats Hamilton in the first two practices!!!

Cue all those that wanted Bottas replaced

Nope, contrary to what anyone might suggest, I am NOT advocating Hamilton is replaced, but I am suggesting all those that were comparing one driver against another last week might not have been giving credit to the driver they were criticising
 
Perez and K-Mag will start from the back due to taking new PU elements. Should be interesting for P3 in the constructors as it is very very tight.
 

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