Formula 1 2020 (Will Contain Race Day Spoilers)

[GeeJayW]

LH's penalty was harsh for me, can't see where he could have gone unless he backed right off and just gave the position to AA.

Great result for Lando and McLaren. Racing Point seemed to lose their pace as the race went on. Perhaps when copying the W10 they also inherited their cooling issues?

Seb seemed to cause his own collision although he stated afterwards how undriveable the car was and that he was glad it was only one spin as the rear end got away more than once.

Not sure what happened to Kimi, they are supposed to have tethers to stop the wheel coming completely off like that

Overtaking around the outside is risky, but I think Alex had pretty much got it done. Lewis could have lifted to give him some room, but chose not to. A tight decision for the stewards.

It does look as if Racing Point have a similar cooling problem experienced by MB last year.

Seb has not yet shone this season.

The tethers rely on the wheel being attached to the hub. Looks like the wheel nut failed or wasn't fastened properly.

 

[Nat]

Going over those kerbs with power on creates severe torsional vibrations in the driveline. These can be very destructive if they happen to be at a resonant frequency. So FWIW, I don't think it was a tactic by the team.

Fair statement. To me at the time I did think it was but now today I have learnt something new. Thank you

Equally, I wonder that it will be the same at the next race to give other teams an advantage as it didn't appear they had the same issues. I could be wrong though as I didn't hear it mentioned at the time.

 

[Nat]

Overtaking around the outside is risky, but I think Alex had pretty much got it done. Lewis could have lifted to give him some room, but chose not to. A tight decision for the stewards.

The more I look at it, the more I think AA created his own demise. Am I on my own on this one? Lifting (for LH) when you're committed to the line, isn't easy is it? I'm starting to think the penalty is harsh considering other drivers have got away with much worse moves. SV created his own problem but I could equally see what he was trying to do but sadly it never paid off for him. I'd like to think SV could do better than where he ended up.

 

[GeeJayW]

Fair statement. To me at the time I did think it was but now today I have learnt something new. Thank you

Equally, I wonder that it will be the same at the next race to give other teams an advantage as it didn't appear they had the same issues. I could be wrong though as I didn't hear it mentioned at the time.

I thought I heard sensor issues mentioned for another team (maybe Lance Stroll?). Given they are racing there again next week, the other teams may well find some advantage. That said, all of the drivelines will have taken a hammering this weekend, so we'll have to see.

AA definitely placed his car in position where he needed the other driver to give him a break.

 

[Nat]

AA definitely placed his car in position where he needed the other driver to give him a break.

As in racing incident?

 

[GeeJayW]

As in racing incident?

Yes, it could just as easily have been considered a racing incident. The stewards went the other way.

 

[190]

The stewards spoilt the race in my opinion.

 

[bob6600]

Going into the corner, LH was ahead. AA went around the outside when LH was already committed and consistently had the car in a right steering lock. It was unfortunate that the tyres touched, had AA been a bit further forward or back, it would probably have been a slight tap and that's it.
I agree that AA would need to get the job done within a few laps but he didn't need to take that risk - he had time and grip to get it done.

AA might of had to retire anyway as his issue was electrical and so unlikely to have been as a result of the collision.

 

[pmcgsmurf]

The stewards spoilt the race in my opinion.

Which one, could be any over past xxx races, then again this is the 2020 thread
Having different stewards at different races does not ensure consistency.

I think they just about got it right, seeing Norris going for it on the last lap made it interesting.

Mercedes made the mistake that put them where they were with Albon, I'd have liked to see him make the pass, would have been good for the sport.

 

[Steveml63]

Hi,
I think Lewis was unfairly penalized twice this weekend.
I don’t see why he should have been demoted on the grid and I don’t think he deliberately drove into Albon.
Cheers
Steve

 

[AMGeed]

Am I alone in thinking without the two safety car deployments, the race was all too predictable. The Mercedes were in a league of their own today despite the finishing position of LH.

It does seem very unfair on drivers who drive the car to the absolute limit to gain a decent lead only to have it taken away in an instant when the safety car comes out. It does spice up the spectacle for viewers though.
Really pleased for LN, and Zac Brown looked absolutely delighted.

 

[Graham7]

Am I alone in thinking without the two safety car deployments, the race was all too predictable. The Mercedes were in a league of their own today despite the finishing position of LH.

It does seem very unfair on drivers who drive the car to the absolute limit to gain a decent lead only to have it taken away in an instant when the safety car comes out. It does spice up the spectacle for viewers though.
Really pleased for LN, and Zac Brown looked absolutely delighted.

It does seem unfair that all cars close up under the safety car. IMHO I think they should have to maintain the gap under the safety car.

Really pleased to see McLaren up and fighting again. If only Williams could start a come back too.

 

[pmcgsmurf]

Am I alone in thinking without the two safety car deployments, the race was all too predictable.

No, without this viewers would get bored and switch off.
Very unfair to the driver in the lead (and others) but sadly the Safety Car [SC} feature will endure as it makes otherwise boring races more interesting.

 

[whitenemesis]

Safety car deployment is as much to do with spectacle and race excitement as it does with safety

 

[Mactech]

Safety car deployment is as much to do with spectacle and race excitement as it does with safety

No, a safety car does exactly what it says and is deployed to protect those drivers and workers at the meeting. There may well have been some ulterior motives to the 'yellow' periods in Indy and Nascar meetings of the past, but in F1 it really is a safety measure.
How quickly we forget Jules Bianchi.
A virtual safety car does maintain the time distance between the cars. But this will only be used if the lives of marshals and others are not in danger.

 

[Deleted member 113659]

OH MY CHRIST!

That was awesome. I’m running around the garden with my shorts pulled up to my t!ts.

#believeinmclaren

 

[pmcgsmurf]

No, a safety car does exactly what it says and is deployed to protect those drivers and workers at the meeting. There may well have been some ulterior motives to the 'yellow' periods in Indy and Nascar meetings of the past, but in F1 it really is a safety measure.
How quickly we forget Jules Bianchi.
A virtual safety car does maintain the time distance between the cars. But this will only be used if the lives of marshals and others are not in danger.

I have no doubt it is a safety measure but I do also believe in F1 in some instances it is deployed all too eagerly, especially when there is a huge gap at the front and we are watching the same rotation of cars.

In no way do I forget Bianchi, on that fateful day though the driving conditions were very different.

 

[Dryce]

Zac Brown looked absolutely delighted.

That was a moment for me. He's taken an awful lot of criticism along the way - some of it quite nasty. Hopefully not too far off getting a win and maybe he gets to celebrate without the constraints of covid restrictions.

 

[artyman]

As already said I think Lewis has had a hard time this weekend, when Bottas went off I would imagine all your concentration was focussed on the cloud to see if there was a car you are about to run into, rather than a glance to the side to spot a Yellow light that to me looked obscured by the dust cloud. As for Albon he took a chance and it didn't come off. Lewis kept his steering on, is his car suddenly supposed to jump a foot to the right to make room! Still it was eventful and after the famine welcome, good to see McLaren up there again

 

[Nat]

Am I alone in thinking without the two safety car deployments, the race was all too predictable. The Mercedes were in a league of their own today despite the finishing position of LH.

No, you're not alone on this.

A VSC would have covered this today. The safety car should be deployed on certain scenarios. IMO the VSC would have done for today's race. Putting the SC car out is to bunch the field up - which we all know what that means. It's FIA's version of making the sport better for viewers. I don't like that. The best driver in the best car on the day should win and I believe bring out the SC is the same level of race fixing - just like the FIA making a decision on a drivers action, after the race has finished.