Formula 1 2020 (Will Contain Race Day Spoilers)

[GeeJayW]

Ha ha. I actually like the colour of the car but not so much a fan of the reasons, or purported reasons why.

Likewise...

 

[Nat]

Another nice practise session. I'm looking forward to Q2 on Saturday to see what the real pace is

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Ferrari are red
Red Bull are blue
F1 is back
Mercedes 1-2

 

[Deleted member 65149]

In 1985 I was running a F3000 car, again supporting the GP. I looked up from my work in the paddock behind the pits to see Andrea De Crasheris cartwheeling his Ligier over the wet grass. He landed the right way up, got out the car and walked down past me, helmet in hand, to the F1 paddock. There was mud down the back of his overalls to the waist.
Five years previous to this, on my very first motor racing test session, I’d helped get him out of his F3 car on the wrong side of a spectator bank at Goodwood. He had ‘previous’ and would continue to have many more incidents, miraculously without major injury.

Are you sure it was mud and not something that had seeped through his overalls from the inside?

 

[Mactech]

Are you sure it was mud and not something that had seeped through his overalls from the inside?

Yes, quite sure!
Andrea seemed almost immune to accidents, but he did have a very odd eye which rolled and the pupil all but disappear.
I was never sure if this was either a result or cause of his incidents, but he never failed a medical.

 

[Stratman]

Does anyone know which rule Red Bull think MB might be breaking with their steering gubbins? I'm at a loss trying to work out how using the steering wheel to decide where the front wheels point could be against the rules.

 

[Mactech]

Does anyone know which rule Red Bull think MB might be breaking with their steering gubbins? I'm at a loss trying to work out how using the steering wheel to decide where the front wheels point could be against the rules.

I understand their beef is with the fact that there is a regulation that states that steering must be the 'primary purpose' and could be argued that with DAS, the primary purpose could be tyre temperature control or to add straight-line speed using minimal toe in/out.
We know it can't be used from the end of this season (whenever that is) but I won't second guess the workings of the FIA.

 

[bob6600]

Does anyone know which rule Red Bull think MB might be breaking with their steering gubbins? I'm at a loss trying to work out how using the steering wheel to decide where the front wheels point could be against the rules.

Red Bull are just trying their luck. During FP1 coverage, it was stated that Red Bull have also designed a similar system however are awaiting some info back from the FIA to make sure the Mercedes is 100% legal.

So, if MB are breaking the rules, DAS removed and Red Bull don't need to put it on their car
If MB are legal (which would seem the case as it was all signed off before the season), Red Bull will add their system to the car

 

[GeeJayW]

Does anyone know which rule Red Bull think MB might be breaking with their steering gubbins? I'm at a loss trying to work out how using the steering wheel to decide where the front wheels point could be against the rules.

I think RBR are considering that DAS might contravene the rules on suspension. But that has already been ruled on, and to be honest steering is not suspension. Simple test, if the mechanism was disconnected, the ride height (which is controlled by the suspension) is unchanged.

Red Bull are just trying their luck. During FP1 coverage, it was stated that Red Bull have also designed a similar system however are awaiting some info back from the FIA to make sure the Mercedes is 100% legal.

So, if MB are breaking the rules, DAS removed and Red Bull don't need to put it on their car
If MB are legal (which would seem the case as it was all signed off before the season), Red Bull will add their system to the car

Yep, reckon so...

 

[Nat]

How they finished in session two

1. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes, 1:04.304)
2. Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes, +0.197)
3. Sergio Perez (Racing Point, +0.641)
4. Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari, +0.657)
5. Daniel Ricciardo (Renault, +0.668)
6. Lando Norris (McLaren, +0.783)
7. Lance Stroll (Racing Point, +0.831)
8. Max Verstappen (Red Bull, +0.911)
9. Charles Leclerc (Ferrari, +0.994)
10. Carlos Sainz (McLaren, +1.048)
11. Esteban Ocon (Renault, +1.111)
12. Daniil Kvyat (Alpha Tauri, +1.139)
13. Alexander Albon (Red Bull, +1.149)
14. Antonio Giovinazzi (Alfa Romeo, +1.304)
15. Kevin Magnussen (Haas, +1.374)
16. Romain Grosjean (Haas, +1.604)
17. Pierre Gasly (Alpha Tauri, +1.712)
18. George Russell (Williams, +1.821)
19. Kimi Raikkonen (Alfa Romeo, +1.974)
20. Nicholas Latifi (Williams, +2.820)

 

[bob6600]

Perez was said to be 2 tenths quicker than Stroll (no big deal) and on par if not slightly quicker than Verstappen on their long runs

 

[GeeJayW]

Perez was said to be 2 tenths quicker than Stroll (no big deal) and on par if not slightly quicker than Verstappen on their long runs

Racing Point have done their best to clone an MB and it seems to be paying off. Perez has always been able to pedal (met him when he was with T-Sport in F3, nice lad), put him in a decent car and he can deliver.

 

[bob6600]

Racing Point have done their best to clone an MB and it seems to be paying off. Perez has always been able to pedal (met him when he was with T-Sport in F3, nice lad), put him in a decent car and he can deliver.

I agree, although his move to McLaren in the past may have been a little premature

 

[GeeJayW]

I agree, although his move to McLaren in the past may have been a little premature

The move to McLaren was great, unfortunately the car was not.

 

[bob6600]

Wow!

Not sure if I'm taken back more by Mercedes' pace or Ferrari's lack of it.

Red Bull are no where near on one lap hence their move to use the medium in Q2 for Max and just about get away with it. Now that their protest over DAS is over and it has been deemed legal (again), I wonder how long until they put their version on their car?

First Qualy session of the year done, can't wait for the race tomorrow

 

[Nat]

Indeed a Wow. Didn't Norris do well and as for Ferrari? All that money to be where they are now. I can see a change of Management soon.

 

[Deleted member 113659]

A Mc in P4 you say???

 

[pmcgsmurf]

Do the cars have to keep 2 metres apart in the race?

 

[bob6600]

Indeed a Wow. Didn't Norris do well and as for Ferrari? All that money to be where they are now. I can see a change of Management soon.

They were expected to be slow as they didn't bring any upgrades so effectively a testing-spec car, but not this slow. They are expecting a 'new' car with upgrades in race 3 (Hungary) but they are embarrassingly slow for a top team.

Yes well done to McLaren, a very good qualifying for them, especially against the pink Mercedes.

 

[Nat]

Do the cars have to keep 2 metres apart in the race?

That won't be an issue for Latifi