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Formula 1 2020 (Will Contain Race Day Spoilers)

Surely he'll win, after all we keep reading 'anyone could win driving that car', and 'Hamilton only wins because he's driving the Mercedes'.
Let's stand your argument on its head. Name any other team that Hamilton could drive for and still be a seven times World champion? i am not picking on Hamilton as the same argument could be used for previous World Champions. YES, Hamilton is a spoilt brat but he is still a very very good driver. How many times has Bottas been ordered to give way to the number one driver? How many times has the strategy of Bottas been ruined by his team to ensure track position for the number 1 driver? Would Russel be allowed to race Bottas?

What if the stand-in driver for Russel got Williams their first points?
 
Interesting. I didn’t think that was allowed...
Why not? As long as his car has been shod with two full sets of different rubbers during the race. Or did he only stop once, I can't remember.
 
I’ll bet George’s a*se will be twitching like a rabbits nose should there be a safety car period. 😳
I think Valteri better be on his game this coming weekend. Ordinarily, nobody really expects him to beat Lewis so whilst there is pressure on him, expectations for a close second are the norm. This weekend if he doesn’t bag pole, get fastest lap and a race win, that will be seen as under achieving. If Valteri gets surpassed by George at any point over the weekend, that won’t do his confidence any good at all. If George does really well, everyone will be saying: “See told you it was all about the car, anybody can do great in the best car. Etc..”
 
Let's stand your argument on its head. Name any other team that Hamilton could drive for and still be a seven times World champion?

I think that's slightly possible - if LH had moved to Ferrari instead of Mercedes then I think it is feasible he might have had at least 3 championships with Ferrari. Possibly more if his momentum had combined with the team's momentum. I think Ferrari had a decent enough car for at least three seasons - and arguably might have done better if the dynamics in the team had worked more. LH to Ferrari could well have been similar strategically to the MS at Ferrari.
 
I think that's slightly possible - if LH had moved to Ferrari instead of Mercedes then I think it is feasible he might have had at least 3 championships with Ferrari. Possibly more if his momentum had combined with the team's momentum. I think Ferrari had a decent enough car for at least three seasons - and arguably might have done better if the dynamics in the team had worked more. LH to Ferrari could well have been similar strategically to the MS at Ferrari.
But for a few untimely mistakes, Seb could have won championships with Ferrari, so for sure they’ve had capable cars.
 
I think that's slightly possible - if LH had moved to Ferrari instead of Mercedes then I think it is feasible he might have had at least 3 championships with Ferrari. Possibly more if his momentum had combined with the team's momentum. I think Ferrari had a decent enough car for at least three seasons - and arguably might have done better if the dynamics in the team had worked more. LH to Ferrari could well have been similar strategically to the MS at Ferrari.
And, buts and maybe never win races. Yes, Ferrari did win some races but try as hard as they might, their cars are just not what they were. Are we all having to believe they have sat back and not bothered working on that car to improve the thing, but if Hamilton were in that team, things would change? is it possible that Ferrari might have welcomed Hamilton with open arms when replacing their drivers but does our World Champion know where that bread is best buttered?

Way back when before the actual Grand Prix, I can remember watching the formula 1 drivers racing in saloon cars. Imagine if that was an ongoing feature. If the drivers want to take each other out, then so be it, but have all the same make cars, churn out the keys randomly to have the number one on pole, the number 22 at the back then let them race, would we see who was the better driver. Nope, drivers rarely collided and the racing was a sight to behold although the cars were probably various brands. Would the public get better value for money? Let any interested saloon car manufacturer volunteer their product and have different brands at the different locations.
 
Glojo , you might remember the various 'one make' series bike racing going back to 1988 (ish) up to the present day. The Honda CB500 challenge (I think, memory a bit hazy) was basically a bunch of identical bikes owned and kept by Honda, the riders turned up and were given a bike...any bike and just told to get on with it.

The same was done with all sorts, Yamaha RD350LC Pro-Am, CBR 600, Triumph speed challenge, and of late KTM RC390 Cup, to name a few.

The best ones being where the rider only has hours with 'his' bike before having to race it, and then give it back.

The speed are often low but everyone is on the same bike and racing is 'interesting' to say the least and in the past has helped to bring some of the riders right to the top of their game.
 
And, buts and maybe never win races. Yes, Ferrari did win some races but try as hard as they might, their cars are just not what they were. Are we all having to believe they have sat back and not bothered working on that car to improve the thing, but if Hamilton were in that team, things would change?
Simple answer - yes - LH might have made that difference. He's certainly capable.

I think FA is a fast driver but when things don't quite go his way it seems the team doesn't gel. And with SV starting to make mistakes and get a bit petulant - then Leclerc turning up - the there are distractions. And when things go well at Ferrari it seems the politics can compund the situation.

So in another parallel universe if LH had moved to Ferrari then I think there's a good chance that things might have gone differently there because if he had managed to start a run of wins and have the same sort of presence as MS. Ferrari came close to the WDC with FA and were capable with SV. The barrier in part was LH.

Instead we see FA gradually becoming disillusioned at Ferrari and then SV coming in and again after looking like he was a contendor for two years facing being scrutinised next to Leclerc. Meanwhile the technical dynamic at Ferrari left them exposed there as well - resulting in a car that was born out of chasing the WCC and WDC rather than leading it.
 
Simple answer - yes - LH might have made that difference. He's certainly capable.

I think FA is a fast driver but when things don't quite go his way it seems the team doesn't gel. And with SV starting to make mistakes and get a bit petulant - then Leclerc turning up - the there are distractions. And when things go well at Ferrari it seems the politics can compund the situation.

So in another parallel universe if LH had moved to Ferrari then I think there's a good chance that things might have gone differently there because if he had managed to start a run of wins and have the same sort of presence as MS. Ferrari came close to the WDC with FA and were capable with SV. The barrier in part was LH.

Instead we see FA gradually becoming disillusioned at Ferrari and then SV coming in and again after looking like he was a contendor for two years facing being scrutinised next to Leclerc. Meanwhile the technical dynamic at Ferrari left them exposed there as well - resulting in a car that was born out of chasing the WCC and WDC rather than leading it.
Oh the joys of debate.... I feel we will have to agree to disagree... Where is Scumbag when I need his sage advice. Oh and I hate acronyms with a vengeance, no idea what you are talking about but UTATG
 
But for a few untimely mistakes, Seb could have won championships with Ferrari, so for sure they’ve had capable cars.
So could FA.

If LH brings several seconds to the race almost regardless of conditions then that is technical chasing they don't need to undertake to win - and they can spend those seonds on chasing down other technical opportunities.

The two drivers who can deliver that sort of advantages in heaps seem to be LH and MV. I think CL can probably do it too if Ferrari can get their car back up to within striking range of Red Bull and Mercedes. SV, DR, and VB are all very fast on the right day but not over the whole season. It remains to be seen whre Carlos Sainz actually sits on the scale. And I guess we should remember FA as returning and probably still fast.
 
Oh the joys of debate.... I feel we will have to agree to disagree...
Thing is we will never know.

And my opinion about LH and what might have been with Ferrari are based on the opinion that it feasibly *might* have worked - ie. not impossible. Which isn't the same as saying likely.

We could equally have been having a discussion in this alternative timeline about how LH moving to Ferrari and having left them after four years with nothing to show while Nico Rosberg had won three or four WDCs.
 
Oh the joys of debate.... I feel we will have to agree to disagree... Where is Scumbag when I need his sage advice. Oh and I hate acronyms with a vengeance, no idea what you are talking about but UTATG
TLAs are a PITA
 
George will be well pleased by being able to drive the best car on the grid, and perhaps Williams a little disappointed to lose their top driver for the race.
I know GR is a Mercedes contracted driver and should end up in the works team if he proves good enough, but how much would Williams love to know how their car compares to the Mercedes!
George may not return with any real data, but his internal gyros will tell him exactly where the Mercedes is better than his normal ride, and knowing where to look is a long way towards fixing the problem.....;)
 
Well that proved me wrong! Excellent news for George, he won't sleep the night before! Shows the power of Toto, although the reserve drivers must be thinking why are we reserve drivers if we can't drive when a driver is out?

With Bottas' pit stop, I'm pretty sure you have to use a set at a time. I know you can't use mixed compounds but perhaps the rules do allow you to not change all 4 wheels if they are the same compound?

Mick Schumacher has also been confirmed in the other Haas seat so a rookie line up. Good luck to him

 
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