Formula 1 2022 (Will Contain Spoilers)

[Dryce]

Most of the great drivers exhibit a degree of this--- Senna, Schumacher, Verstappen , Vettel and Hamilton. This is not a fixed characteristic but can change with personality maturity and its interesting that Vettel has become less competitive of late. One of racing ironies is that as you become a better person to those around you----your drive to win at all costs diminishes

My assumption is that with the WDC in the bag that Schumacher, Vettel, Hakkinen, Button, Hamilton, Mansell, and Hamilton would have played the team game on Sunday. Particularly as it didn't involve giving up a win or a podium.

(I'm not as sure about Senna or Alonso).

I would also add that Perez helped Verstappen to his 2021 championship - both indirectly via sacrificing his strategy and on occasion directly on track by defending - whereas by comparison Bottas wasn't much use to Mercedes to buttress Hamilton in 2021.

 

[Dryce]

Hard to say that Perez's spin was premeditated but Verstappen obviously believes it was.

It doesn't look premeditated - and the risk of damage (particulartly a transmission replacement) makes a deliberate manouevre of that sort disproportionately risky.

Now it might be that Max Verstappen knows something about the data - but on the visual evidence I can see - if this is his reasoning and logic at work the he is a very disturbed individual.

 

[Mactech]

It doesn't look premeditated - and the risk of damage (particulartly a transmission replacement) makes a deliberate manouevre of that sort disproportionately risky.

Now it might be that Max Verstappen knows something about the data - but on the visual evidence I can see - if this is his reasoning and logic at work the he is a very disturbed individual.

I think that Max has a tendency to embrace a conspiracy theory, because I think that Perez is a great driver, but not even he has the skill to make that Monaco shunt look like he meant to do it! The inputs he made looks like he was desperately trying to avoid it.

 

[Larkone]

At the end of the day Red Bull are damaging their appeal to sponsors with their 'overspend on budget' and a team principal that cannot manage his drivers effectively for the team benefit as a whole. Being in the news for the wrong reasons will always make sponsors nervous about being associated with controversy.

 

[AMGeed]

I think a little of Jos Verstappen has rubbed off on his son. Quite frankly, Verstappen Snr was/is a nasty piece of work.
Assaulting his wife, beating up his Father, attempted murder charge later withdrawn, alleged child cruelty toward Max, it goes on.

Max has a win at all costs mentality that came to the surface again in Brazil when he knew what the consequences were going to be attempting his overtaking move. He still went ahead knowing there was a good chance it would take out Hamilton. It didn't matter if he crashed out, the title is won.

Disobeying team orders to let Perez back ahead shows he has no respect for his team either.
A really gifted driver, he'll stop at nothing to win.

 

[Dryce]

he'll stop at nothing to win.

On this occasion it wasn't about a win and he already had the WDC done and dusted.

 

[JHS]

As a driver, he is stellar. Up there with the best.
As a person, he comes across as a bottom feeding pond dweller.

 

[Mactech]

So, Sergio says there is no way he crashed in Monaco on purpose. Max is convinced he did.
Max's mother takes to social media to claim Sergio cheated on his wife...then deletes the post.
Max's girlfriend is Kelly Piquet. Her brother was the star of F1's Crashgate scandal.
Christian says all is now peace and harmony at Red Bull now the drivers have discussed it behind closed doors...

Yeah right!

The script writers for 'Enders might even have binned that story line as being too far fetched

 

[HappytalkAgain]

This only accrued to me last night. WHY did the team even bother to ask Checo to let Max though to have a go at Alonso? No real chance of a podium. Both championships wrapped up. Max didn’t need the points. Checo did. Surely the team should have told their drivers to hold positions to the checkered flag to gift the extra point to Checo.

 

[Mactech]

This only accrued to me last night. WHY did the team even bother to ask Checo to let Max though to have a go at Alonso? No real chance of a podium. Both championships wrapped up. Max didn’t need the points. Checo did. Surely the team should have told their drivers to hold positions to the checkered flag to gift the extra point to Checo.

…because they knew it was…err… pointless trying to ask Max to stay behind?
Remember who runs the team.

 

[JHS]

So because he is convinced that Checo crashed on purpose at Monaco he decided to deprive him of valuable points in order to stop Checo getting second place in the championship?
What a childish, petulant pos he must be to hold such a grudge, just waiting to get his revenge.

 

[Stratman]

Interesting snippet from BBC text commentary:-

Speaking to the media, Perez said the incident [MV refusing to yield] was "disappointing" and on Spanish-language television, added: "If he has two titles, it's thanks to me."

This isn't over.

 

[MrGreedy]

It possibly puts RB management in a bit of a situation. Sergio, having taken bullets for Max and helping him out big style over the past two seasons gets kicked hard in the mouth as thanks. So how can the team now trust possibly the best 2nd driver they've ever had, knowing Max has totally stabbed him in the back. And worse than that, stabbed him in the back only for the joy of it and for no personal benefit to Max or the team.

So, do they now need to eject Sergio due to that understandable lack of trust Max has created? But then replace him with another driver, who having seen exactly what Max gets up to, will know that Max will use any opportunity to stab the new driver in the back, and possibly 'just because he can'? So who now, thanks to the stellar scum-baggery of Max, can the team ever truly trust as a second driver whilst Max is there?

 

[Petrol Pete]

Horner should give Max the weekend off at Abu Dhabi, no need for Max to turn up as they already have it in the bag , give the car to any other RB driver with a super licence and let him gain experience.

 

[Mactech]

Horner should give Max the weekend off at Abu Dhabi, no need for Max to turn up as they already have it in the bag , give the car to any other RB driver with a super licence and let him gain experience.

Liam Lawson springs to mind as he has just posted 5th quickest in FP1 in Max's car.....

 

[Bellow]

Horner should give Max the weekend off at Abu Dhabi, no need for Max to turn up as they already have it in the bag , give the car to any other RB driver with a super licence and let him gain experience.

If that happens, Verstappen will get out of bed 30 minutes earlier each morning and go to bed 30 minutes later just so he can hate Perez for an hour longer each day.

 

[baxlin]

Remember who runs the team.

An interesting comment from someone whose posts I value…

 

[Bellow]

If - massive if - Perez crashed in Monaco Q3 on purpose - that would warrant an investigation by the FIA and put Red Bull as well as Perez on the hook - no?
The obvious two scenarios are that the FIA has (even as a formality) to investigate and Verstappen will have occasioned that for Red Bull. Or, the FIA show no interest (they will have viewed the incident as it occurred) and Verstappen causes Red Bull further reputational damage.

 

[Dryce]

This only accrued to me last night. WHY did the team even bother to ask Checo to let Max though to have a go at Alonso? No real chance of a podium.

Safety cars.

The likelihood of a safety car coming out and bunching up the cars on the circuit and destrying earned time differences on track is much more likely than it used to be a few years back.

 

[Dryce]

It possibly puts RB management in a bit of a situation. Sergio, having taken bullets for Max and helping him out big style over the past two seasons gets kicked hard in the mouth as thanks. So how can the team now trust possibly the best 2nd driver they've ever had, knowing Max has totally stabbed him in the back. And worse than that, stabbed him in the back only for the joy of it and for no personal benefit to Max or the team.

There's the stab in the back on track and then the attempt at adding reputational damage.

Not just nasty. Very nasty.