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Latest COMAND sat nav DVD

Is there anyone that knows the exact date that the ETA was displayed by default on this version of COMAND?
W211/W219/SLK - MY07 - so cars with 807 in the option code list

It's blooming frustrating when we read about the different variants :mad: :o :o For example why is the R-class different from the E??:mad: :mad:
Cost I think - 4 different 'versions' (and map disk types) have happened

NTG1 - E/CLS class, 2004-SL, SLK, 2004-W220 S, 2004-W215 CL) (seperate hu, agw, nav)
NTG2 - cheaper A/B/C/CLK/ML/GL/R (all in one box, first seen in 05 C I think)
NTG3 - W221 S / W216 CL (all in 1 box & internal hard disk)
NTG4 - new W204 C class and I think all MY08 cars - so probably cheaper than NTG3

So things moved on as models were released.

R
 
W211/W219/SLK - MY07 - so cars with 807 in the option code list


Cost I think - 4 different 'versions' (and map disk types) have happened

NTG1 - E/CLS class, 2004-SL, SLK, 2004-W220 S, 2004-W215 CL) (seperate hu, agw, nav)
NTG2 - cheaper A/B/C/CLK/ML/GL/R (all in one box, first seen in 05 C I think)
NTG3 - W221 S / W216 CL (all in 1 box & internal hard disk)
NTG4 - new W204 C class and I think all MY08 cars - so probably cheaper than NTG3

So things moved on as models were released.

R
Hi Richard,
Thank you very much indeed for the usual very informative post. It beats me how Mercedes decided tgo put the cheaper COMAND in the R-class but especially the GL?

Regards
John
 
Hi Richard,
Thank you very much indeed for the usual very informative post. It beats me how Mercedes decided tgo put the cheaper COMAND in the R-class but especially the GL?

Regards
John

I think they did it so they could then sell the Rear Entertainment package separately.
 
My guess you'll get 9.0 or if your lucky 9.1. If the dealer has been really diligent he may have swopped the 9.0 for 8.0 - but personally i'd hope he hasnt.
Dont worry about the firmware on the Comand itself - you can't see what will have changed, and nothing much as for a while on the ML.

Enjoy the ML !!

Richard

Thanks Richard

They actually supplied 8.0 ! but for the amount I will actually use it I'm sure it will be fine.....

As for the ML ... all I can say is SUPERB :) ... its nice to be back in a Merc after 2 Audi's !

Thanks

Mark
 
Typical! not only have I just spent (16/04/08) £206.05 on a V7 disc from Command on Line (I was upgrading from a 4.1) but had I waited for only four weeks it would only have been £138 for a V8!! (and before you say it yes I did ask if a new version was imminent but was told it was the 2007/2008 disc so a new version was not likely.) That moan aside; for the benefit of those planning on doing any travelling in Western Europe using the V7 Disc, I have just returned from a 4K mile trip through France Spain and Portugal. V7 Disc worked OK but was frequently showing ‘off road’ in North Western and Central France, and often in Spain when using some of the newer roads travelling North West from Granada in to Portugal. I guess these up dates will be included in the new V8 disc. It seems both France and Spain have commissioned a considerable number of new roads over the past 12 to 18 months that are understandably not on the old V7 disc.
Mike Harding


You are lucky my friend that you found the most of your destinations.
Last week I just retrofited comand APS on my 2007 E200K Ava. , spent 3000 Euros forn the whole project - Got the v8-2008 DVD NAV and next week I want to travel to ITEA (a big port/town next to DELPHI ) and it is not there !!!!

So I have to stick my MIO PDA with Destinator 7 to my car's screen. What a sight !!!!

I am furious and angry with Mercedes. And I will explain why . I asked my Partner who drives a BMW with Navi (far superior to ours) to try to find this town - Well he found it as well as a lot of other places I could not find (Athens is Ok but lots of times woud tell you to turn in places that is forbidden).

The funny thing is that BMW uses as well NAVTEQ/Teleatlas map data. And when you go to Navteq the only car that they will not sell upgrade maps is Mercedes - They just send you to your nearest MB dealer!! (to buy the DVD with then obsolete maps, one version behind all the other car makers)

I do not expect maybe to have the best graphics/ 3d views etc , but I deamnd to have the latest MAP data

Why on earth should I pay for upgrade DVD that all of you people find cheap at GBP230 and over ?? It is not cheat , it is bl.... expensive for what it is and I feel that MB people are loughing at all of us here !!!!
 
Alfie,
Thank you for taking the trouble to respond to this thread and for your e-mail.
Yes, I was disappointed when I learned that a later version had been released so soon (a matter of a few weeks at most) after my purchase of V7, particularly as I had contacted Command on Line specifically to establish whether or not a later version was due. Indeed during my discussion with your representative – which was early on the evening of the 16th of April, I was told that if he knew of one then he would certainly tell me. On that assurance I made my purchase. You have again confirmed that you had no advance knowledge of this upgrade and for the benefit of you and others now following this thread, I accept what you say. That is that Command on Line did not know at the time of my enquiry of the impending withdrawal of V7 and the issue of V8.
From what you say, your suppliers of CD’s offer a superior service to that offered by your DVD suppliers by giving their distributors advance notice of their intentions and here lies the potential for a lesson. It might benefit your DVD suppliers to know what potential harm they are doing by failing to provide their distributors with advanced notice that newer versions are imminent. Other hardware and software suppliers manage to achieve this. Indeed some withdraw software/ hardware in advance and make customers wait for the new version and some even offer to replace software for a small handling/postage charge if it is upgraded within a certain time frame after purchase of and earlier version. I hope you will find an opportunity to convey to your DVD suppliers just how much improvement in their customer facing service they need to make. It cannot be to the benefit of the customer or firms’ reputation to keep such immanent changes a secret. That, is in my view very bad practice.
Thank you too for your kind offer of a discount on further purchases. I doubt I will have cause to take advantage of this offer of recompense but it is important for others to know the level of integrity you are endeavouring to achieve when conducting your business.
The rest of my earlier post was aimed at suggesting to potential travellers that it would not be wise to continue using V7 for a protracted Western European journey as many road changes had taken place. What I did not mention in my first post was that throughout my travels my passenger was using a Via Michelin 980XT New Edition portable Sat Nav. device with the latest maps and camera information in it. I purchased that device a month or before my Command disc up grade. The intention was to use the Michelin Guide aspects of the device for Hotels, Restaurants, Points of Interest (I had preloaded WiFi Hotspots, speed camera positions etc) but in reality it was on and used throughout the journey for navigation and traffic up date duties as well. The Michelin performed well and the traffic up dates were more specific than the Command – this, presumably because it has a text to speech facility which enables it to warn verbally about high winds on certain roads, blockages to certain parts of carriage ways and the length of potential traffic jams etc. Some of this information was available from Command but only in text form. Incidentally Michelin are no longer in the business of producing any more Sat Navs. They ended that business just after Christmas. Nevertheless I purchased the 980XT as I wanted the Michelin Guide facility which will continue to be up dated.
Thank you again Alfie for taking the trouble to put the record straight. I hope my additional suggestions will be of use. My apologies to those who feel I have hijacked this thread.
Kind Regards
Mike Harding

Hi Mike
I would not suggest that you travel to Greece with your PDA even with v8 DVD on your Merc )see my other post to see why !!!
Keep your Michelin 980XT in a safe place !!!
 
Clearly a frustrating experience for you GMATJ and one for which I am unable to offer any solution apart from suggesting that you provide appropriate feed back to your dealers on the inadequacy of the Command data for your part of the world.
As this item in the thread has been resurrected and as it too suggested feed back might be of benefit for future users, I wonder Alfie, ( I am sure you read these threads) did you take up my earlier suggestion and tell your ‘DVD suppliers [to know] what potential harm they are doing by failing to provide their distributors with advanced notice that newer versions are imminent.’?
I made this suggestion in both my private communication to you and my post on this board ‘I hope you will find an opportunity to convey to your DVD suppliers just how much improvement in their customer facing service they need to make. It cannot be to the benefit of the customer or firms’ reputation to keep such immanent changes a secret. That, is in my view very bad practice.'
GMATJ’s recent posts remind me that I’ve heard / seen nothing since my proposal and I remain wondering whether you found the time to point out to your suppliers that deceit of the type adopted earlier this year is unsound business practice and if you did what was their response – have the committed to take the message on board?
Mike Harding
 
Clearly a frustrating experience for you GMATJ and one for which I am unable to offer any solution apart from suggesting that you provide appropriate feed back to your dealers on the inadequacy of the Command data for your part of the world.
As this item in the thread has been resurrected and as it too suggested feed back might be of benefit for future users, I wonder Alfie, ( I am sure you read these threads) did you take up my earlier suggestion and tell your ‘DVD suppliers [to know] what potential harm they are doing by failing to provide their distributors with advanced notice that newer versions are imminent.’?
I made this suggestion in both my private communication to you and my post on this board ‘I hope you will find an opportunity to convey to your DVD suppliers just how much improvement in their customer facing service they need to make. It cannot be to the benefit of the customer or firms’ reputation to keep such immanent changes a secret. That, is in my view very bad practice.'
GMATJ’s recent posts remind me that I’ve heard / seen nothing since my proposal and I remain wondering whether you found the time to point out to your suppliers that deceit of the type adopted earlier this year is unsound business practice and if you did what was their response – have the committed to take the message on board?
Mike Harding

We did communicate this back to the supplier but as ever when dealing with huge organisations such things tend to fall on deaf ears.

I agree with your points but there is little we can do to change the situation sadly.
 
Alfie,
Many thanks for the update and thank you too for taking the trouble to pursue the matter.
I hope that your supplier does take your input seriously as to fail to must surely be to its detriment. Whilst to them you may not appear be the largest of their customers, the excellence of service and facilities you strive to provide through this forum alone clearly indicates you have a customer base of both size and influence. I suggest you have a little more clout than you credit yourself with.
Mike Harding
 
Hi everybody

This morning I was told by Mercedes in Greece that in the end of August MB has released v9 of NAVI DVD for E-Class (NTG1)– which will be available in Greek dealers mid October.

Have you heard anything about this in your country ?? Can you cross-check with your sources ??
Thanks and Regards
George
 
I have recently bought an '08 registered March 1st 2008, E Class 220CDI Avantgarde with COMAND.

The DVD says on it:- Navigation DVD COMAND APS 2007/2008
A 211 827 10 65
B6 782 38 55
1844.741
Version 7.0

The screen does display The ETA and distance to destination.

Am I right in thinking that this is not the latest version?
What are my chances of getting an update from MB?
 
Version 7.0 was the latest version on 1st March 2008, I believe, so that's what came with the car. Version 8.0 was released later that month.

You won't automatically get upgrades, but there's no harm in asking. ;)

I'm surprised you don't have the ETA display. That comes from the head unit software, not the APS DVD. The ETA functionality has been around for at least a year (or two). I would definitely ask for a free upgrade. (The service part only costs £10 and it takes about 5 minutes to load.)
 
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I have recently bought an '08 registered March 1st 2008, E Class 220CDI Avantgarde with COMAND.

The DVD says on it:- Navigation DVD COMAND APS 2007/2008
A 211 827 10 65
B6 782 38 55
1844.741
Version 7.0

The screen does display The ETA and distance to destination.

Am I right in thinking that this is not the latest version?
What are my chances of getting an update from MB?

V8 is the latest but at least your head unit seems to have had all the latest firmware fixes applied. Otherwise you wouldnt be getting ETA.

Although your car is a 2008 one the Comand unit could have been manufactured sometime last year!

We could sell you a V8 at a discount but to be honest if you are on V7 you might aswell wait for the next one to come out. Unless of course you can convince your dealer to upgrade you for free. Worth asking.
 
To confirm. I DO have ETA.

Do the latest versions have 7 (8)? digit postcode search, rather than the inadequate 5 digit postcode?
 
My April 2006 CLS (purchased by me June 2008) has a version 8.0 disc in the boot (upgraded from 7.0 to 8.0 - both show ETA and have TMC). What I find really odd about Comand (my 2003 E class didn't have Comand) is that it does not take the full postcode - the last two digits/letters are always left off and this appears common across the board.

My TomTom 510 was much better in this respect and it also had all the speed camera locations. I have now found my old Road Angel and had that updated - the TomTom sits in the wife's Touran.
 
Hello everybody

I can confirm there is a new NAV DVD for W211 and this is

v9 Europe 2008/2009 Navi DVD for NTG1 B6 782 38 87

Regards
George
 
Have I understood correctly?

Apologies if I'm jumping in here but reading through there seems lots of good advice but I want to make sure I have correctly understood it.

I have a 2005 E320 CDI W211 - I currently run 5.1 nav DVD disk with command .

Is the latest version v9 ? To run this must I get the firmware upgrade from the dealer first? (Greenoaks in Reading don't understand what firmware is!!! As an electronics engineer I do but I could not get anyone to understand!!!:mad: )

As always I'd appreicate a shove in the right direction.
 
V9 is the latest. It will update (should) the firmware in the nav drive

You can also update the firmware in the main COMAND unit to MY2007 spec, which gives you estimated time of arrival (ETA) on the screen all the time whilst navigating

Talk to alfie on this forum (PM him, or look at www.comand.co.uk since you may not have PM enabled yet with only 4 posts) he will be able to help/sort you out

R
 
You just need the new APS disc (v9) and follow the instructions on the jacket. The head unit update is not required. However, when I took my car in recently for some warranty work, a new service update was applied and I now have ETA. So, you should get this the next time your car is in the workshop.
 

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