Mercedes W114 250 Coupe - help!

[219]

Life is full of challenges - especially when you have an older Merc .

 

[mct_cars]

Looks like you're facing a lot of the same challenges I had when stripped the 107. Very good engineering without the faintest understanding of rust! I can recommend Wurth Rost off Ice for particularly rusted bolts. And a grinderette. I weighed the front and rear bumpers at around 50Kg the pair - slightly heavier than the 8Kg of an MGB!

Completely off topic, but noticed you have a B10 3.3. Casually looking for an interesting estate, and can't help being tempted by this.

 

[Charles Morgan]

That car was up for sale for £2600 from a private, which just about made sense as he had not done any suspension work in his ownership so at that mileage it will likely need a total overhaul (about £2000 or so), bodywork is poor, and will no doubt need pixels done in the displays (up to £500). Engine will need major service, and is getting to the danger point for cylinder head gasket and cooling system will probably need overhaul. The guy selling it has done nothing to it apart from stick it up at a higher price. As a pre-facelift car it is also less attractive. I'm sure with work it will be a lovely car, but as a high miler you will spend more than its worth on doing it up.

Great cars when on song though!

 

[bolide]

Completely off topic, but noticed you have a B10 3.3. Casually looking for an interesting estate, and can't help being tempted by this.

A B10 Touring would be a great piece of kit. Fortunately I haven't found one yet - when I do I will be in a real quandary as to what to do!

My E39 Touring has been brilliant but the Alpinas ride so much better and handle so sweetly that a Touring would be a temptation

Nick Froome

 

[219]

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My E39 Touring has been brilliant but the Alpinas ride so much better and handle so sweetly that a Touring would be a temptation

Nick Froome

You mean to say you don't run a S124 ? !!!

I am surprised

 

[Charles Morgan]

suspension ..will likely need a total overhaul (about £2000 or so)

Make that about £3000 - much more of the suspension is Alpina supplied rather than BMW. That carries a very substantial premium (as I've just discovered doing two rear bushes - you can't get the bushes on their own, they have to come with the control arms, hence £550+VAT for the pair).

 

[Bellow]

The next challenge - removing the heavily corroded rear bumper cross-member.

Help is on the way! Couple of days (at most) in transit.

 

[219]

Help is on the way! Couple of days (at most) in transit.

Would they not be better sent in a Sprinter , than a transit

 

[Charles Morgan]

Help is on the way! Couple of days (at most) in transit.

Another act of kindness that I really appreciate!

 

[grober]

CODES fromhttps://translate.google.co.uk/tran...tent&view=category&id=18&Itemid=66&edit-text=
Code List of equipment: - TRANSLATED accuracy unknown

212, 232 bridge ratio of 1: 4.08 and 1: 3.92
230 manual 5-speed transmission with floor lifting jack
Speedometer 230 version with a 5-speed manual gearbox
235, 236 Electric windows
237 Overtaking signal light for vehicles exported are Austria
247 149.85 166.50 Heizeckscheibe ESG heated rear window ESG (horizontal, vertical)
248 Heiz-Heckscheibe Vbgl. 210.09 266.40 294.15 VBGL heated rear window (horizontal, vertical)
257 Radiator shroud
262 Shielded control and cut-out for three-phase alternator
269.270 "rack" roof
275 Lowered front seats
282 Koffersatz 6-teilig 580.53 693.75 904.65 suitcases complete 6pc. the boot
286 Gepäcknetze an Sitzen 28.86 35.52 49.95 grid storage behind the seats
289 "rack" mount on skis
306 housing center console versions with air conditioning
40/4 * Fahrerlehne Orthopadische 46.62 61.05 83.25 orthopedic driver support
401 single seats single seats
402 Bench front (seat)
41/1 Schiebedach 566.10 632.70 732.60 mechanic manual sunroof
41/2 Schiebedach 721.50 849.15 987.90 elektrisch electric sunroof
Automatic-Getriebe 42/0 1.443- 1 .443- 1 .609,50 automatic transmission
42/0 knob on the floor with automatic transmission
42/2 Servolenkung 516.15 571.65 643.80 assist
42/4 manual transmission with a stick in the floor
42/8 5-Gang-Getriebe 616.05 5-speed manual transmission
427 power steering and manual transmission controlled floor
43/1 Sicherheitsgurt vorn 111 - 77.70 Series front seat belts
43/2 * Sicherheitsgurt hinten 88.80 72.15 149.85 with rear seat belts
Fanfare 45/2 Zweiklang 122.10 144.30 177.60 beep, two-tone
45/4 fuel filler cap with lock
Instruments 46/1 with inscription in Angielski
Instruments with optional 46/1 road ratio (mit anderer Wegdrehzal)
46/2 Nebelschlußleuchte 49.95 53.28 otylne fog light
46/3 Emergency Lights
46/6 Zentralverriegelung 122.10 310.80 244.20 central locking
48/0 Niveauregulierung 466.20 588.30 743.70 adjustable suspension
48/0/1/5 rubber ring at the suction pipe at Baku ???
48/2 springs in versions with increased ground clearance
49/1 (US version), a foot-operated parking brake release switch
49/1 (US version) Ventilation fuel Baku
49/1 buzzer, the US version, the head of the left side
49/1 Electrical system used with air pollution control
49/1 transportation facilities (ie US) - Transportbefestigung (fuer USA)
49/1 transistorized ignition, versions with emission control system
49/1, 306 US version of the cable harness, head of the left side
49/1, 58/0 electrical parts used in conjunction with an additional fan
49/1, 62/9, 233 (France and Switzerland) special wiring for fog lamps
49/5 Side lamps
49/9 (US version) Steering wheel with matt chrome horn ring
49/9 Electrical equipment for vehicles exported to the United States or is Sweden
49/9 Mercedes star
50/2 Außenspiegel rechts 15.54 22.20 94.35 right mirror
51 / 0- Mexico Cassette 1 .409,70 Becker Mexico radio 1576.20
Becker Radio 51/4 - Europe 505.05 566.10 532.80 radio Becker
51/6 Grand Prix 666- 771.45 799.20 Radio Grand Prix
53/2 Antenne 249.75 321.90 405.15 automatisch automatic antenna
53/3 Funkentstörung Benziner 61.05 72.15 94.35 radio interference suppression
54/0 Zwischenpolster MB-Tex double wygłuszenie- 38.85 46.62 leatherette upholstery wash
460.65 360.75 Anhängevorrichtung 55/0 towing hook
55/0 is like 550, or tow bar.
55/1 Lenkrad steering 12.21 12.21 elfenbeinfarbig ivory
55/1 meant 'Steering wheel, ivory-colored', the head of ivory.
550 trailer coupling (ie, the tow bar)
551 anti-theft warning system (anti-theft system every bit storm theory that these codes
553 It also may be the sum of 55/0 and 55/1 (like 550 + 551).
553 in newer sources means "code 550 and 551"
57/0 Armlehne vorn MB-Tex 111- 144.30 94.35 armrest
57/3 Kopfstützen vorn 173.16 133.20 Series front head restraints
573- headrests, left and right, or headrests, right and left
58/0 * 1 .887- Klimaanlage 2203.35 2.664, - Airconditioning
58/4 * 4 E-Fensterheber 915.75 832.50 1 .043,40 electric windows,
59/7 wärmedämmendes Glas 94.25 249.75 225.33 1 glass Thermoglas
416.25 344.10 60/0 Scheinwerferwischanlage wipers on the headlights with washer
61/1/2 (USA) headlight bulbs "Sealed-beam" (high vacuum bubble
61/5 Additional directions
61/8 * 1 88.70 72.15 Halogen halogen
62/0/9 (Italy and France) Passing light signal system
62/4 (Sweden) Windshield Wipers, Power
62/9 (France) Rear diffusers with orange lights reversing
63/0/1/2/3/4/5/7 triangle
63/1 * 27.75 27.75 29.97 Verbandkasten kit
63/6 15-inch wheels
630 radial-ply tires radial tires
64/0 Leichtmetallräder 1.332- 1 .554- Alloy Wheels
Fixing 64/6 aluminowego spare wheel dimension 7.00x15
656 Michelin tires
67/3, 67/4, 67/7 high-capacity battery
68/2 * Feuerlöscher 61.05 44.40 53.28 montiert mounted fire extinguisher
Hecklautsprecher 811 149.85 66.55 94.35 1 rear speakers
835 mats front and rear color coconut
875 External searchlight
Kopfstützen 881 173.16 133.20 149.85 hinten rear headrests
887 springs front seats - reinforced
Metallic (02.74 !!!] 843 616.50 60 982.35 metallic paint
Metallic-zweifarb (!!!) 1187.70 1010.10 754.80 Two-color metallic paint - the roof of a different color
Sonderlack 88.70 146.52 1 222- custom paint (special effects)
Zweifarblackierung 1 321.90 277.50 88.70 two-tone paint - the roof of a different color




There is an interesting thread [in POLISH ---google translate?? ]on how to obtain a copy of the vehicle data card from

Mercedes-Benz Classic Center der DaimlerChrysler AG
70546 Stuttgart
Phone: 0711 1784040
Fax: 0711 1783456
E-Mail: [email protected]
Homepage: Mercedes-Benz Classic Home - Classic Cars & Service - Mercedes-Benz Classic in Fellbach

You get a copy of the vehicle data card which pre-1980 have been archived on microfilm and are not the best quality but are the most legible. You need to supply proof of ownership and the vehicle VIN number

They close on the 20th Dec till early January

Forum

 

[Charles Morgan]

Mechanic friend of Tony has been to free up all the wheels, a couple of sticking pads but nothing serious. With luck my Fiat will disappear on a lorry today to go off for sale and then I'll have space in my garage. I think moving it will be the next piece of joy!

Meanwhile the Turkish vendor has been in touch and the first batch of parts organised. With silvered vinyl here today too, my evening job is to get a template cut for lining the fog lamp reflectors.

What fun this all is. It's more Blue Peter than heavy industry at the moment but it will soon change!

 

[John Jones Jr]

A bit of trivia.

Racy sedan | All media content | DW.DE | 12.11.2014

 

[Charles Morgan]

The white car is the same colour as mine. Fiat gone too, I now have space, just need to move it.

Today's homemade refreshments from Jill were oven fresh buttered cheese scones and double chocolate cookies.

 

[Charles Morgan]

Started work on clearing up the bumpers today. The removal of my 127 has given a decent space in the garage before the coupe arrives so I can work on these large lumps of chrome easily. The front bumper is corroded in the seam in the middle of the bumper, especially behind the rubber. I fear there is a lot of rust there as it is pushing out the rubber. If I can stabilise it and clear it without damaging the chrome great, otherwise it will be new bumper time. Until I have got the cross member off the damage won't become clear.

 

[Charles Morgan]

I have decided to adopt the low force and intelligence approach on the basis that brute force and ignorance have got me nowhere in the past. With the help of a forum member who has sent me some superb penetrating oil and tips I have soaked the bumper nuts in this for three days. This morning one came out with no issue and two are moving on the little side bumpers - as these move around under torque I haven't forced them, but given them another soaking as with the other stubborn nuts. As there are so many surfaces with rust on them - nut and washer, washer and bracket, bracket and nut, bumper and nut, I'm going to let time and the penetrating oil take its course.

 

[Richiebuoy]

This threads like offering someone the chance to spend the night with Megan Fox and then deciding to award themselves the prize!

Yes but hopefully we'll get the photographs at some point

 

[Charles Morgan]

People wanted photos, so here are some nuts, no screws mind.

The good news - five nuts out without any rounding or damage. Delighted with this.

The bad news - one nut on the small under bumper was a bugger with all the other ones removed, the bumper was flexing and access was poor. Obviously I got the force at the wrong angle and snap. I shall have to drill out the remaining bit of nut, up til then I was really proud of myself, these were seriously corroded in. Drilling is a new skill to me too...

 

[Bellow]

so here are some nuts,

- five nuts out

Bolts!

The bad news - one nut on the small under bumper was a bugger with all the other ones removed, the bumper was flexing and access was poor. Obviously I got the force at the wrong angle and snap.

Is there any of the remaining bolt protruding - either side? Looking at the breakage I suspect not, but if there is enough protruding it is sometimes worthwhile removing a 3-jaw chuck from a drill and clamping it to the offending bolt remains to then wind it out. Only if enough protruding though.
If you have to drill try and level the remains of the bolt where the drill will enter (if possible). Helps stop the drill wandering. Bolts can be hard to centre punch but worth a try. If not, start the drilling turning the chuck by hand while applying pressure prior to energising the drill's motor. It can help establish the hole and even if it wanders at least it doesn't start a hole where you least want one.

 

[Dieselman]

The bolt sheared because the rust was tightening the grip of the tread.

iirc, ferrous corrosion (rust) is 12 * the thickness of the sacrificed metal.

 

[sajidbaz]

The bolt sheared because the rust was tightening the grip of the tread.

iirc, ferrous corrosion (rust) is 12 * the thickness of the sacrificed metal.

Hi diesel man .I am a new member on this site .my Merc e320cdi has been parked of a year now while I was abroad.the battery in the car was dead took it out and recharged it and put back car started up fine . but the dash was displaying three codes two went away but third one didn't which one was the epc code.the gears shift inpostion but when put in d it doesn't move and looses revs as if there is something stopping it from moving.could u or anyone else on this site .would possibbly help andgive me advice on how to sort this problem
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