Pioneer W202 custom fit dash tweeters - TS-H2AT

[NW_Merc]

MERCEDES W202 PIONEER DASH SPEAKERS C36 C43 ULTRA RARE! on eBay (end time 02-Nov-10 18:44:15 GMT)

Do these seem expensive?

 

[d w124]

I can`t belive they did not make a video for these

 

[aka$h]

The ad says he is leaving the country soon, fingers crossed!

 

[Blackman]

The important part is that he's got a "Beema".

 

[gurpz]

Very expensive for just the tweeters and its missing the main mid range components.

 

[vijilants]

MERCEDES W202 PIONEER DASH SPEAKERS C36 C43 ULTRA RARE! on eBay (end time 02-Nov-10 18:44:15 GMT)

Do these seem expensive?

They are rare, and Ive been looking for a set for ages.

However they are not worth £50.

You can stick in a set of TSS 250 tweeters in the the existing area for £20 and the sound improves dramatically.

 

[NW_Merc]

They are rare, and Ive been looking for a set for ages.

However they are not worth £50.

You can stick in a set of TSS 250 tweeters in the the existing area for £20 and the sound improves dramatically.

Do they have to be glued into the spaces?

 

[vijilants]

Do they have to be glued into the spaces?

Cut the original connector off, soldier on a new set of connectors,

Stuff in, a bit of sponge here and there to hold them in place, pop the lid back on and off you go

 

[andy27168]

Hi,
I fitted Jehnert door builds with Infinity speakers (3 way component 2 x subs, 1 x mid-range, and 1 x tweeter in each door), these were designed to optimise and position the speakers in the best place for the car.
Their recommendation was to forget the OEM Tweeter location, and position the new Tweeters in the interior panel on the inside of were the door mirror attaches, why they deemed this location to be better I don,t know, possibly by being fitted there they would be in vertical plane rather than the horizontal where the OEM ones are located.

 

[NW_Merc]

But jehnert don't make stuff for the W202 any more

 

[vijilants]

But jehnert don't make stuff for the W202 any more

Andy's speakers and door setup are very nice but it also depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to spend on in car audio. The sky is the limit and anything is possible

 

[NW_Merc]

Andy's speakers and door setup are very nice but it also depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to spend on in car audio. The sky is the limit and anything is possible

But in order to replicate I'd have to start from scratch more or less to be similar to andy's set up that is

 

[vijilants]

I don't know what you currently have in your car or where you eventually want to go with it, but what I did was I ditched the oem front and rear shelf speakers as they were rubbish. I also ditched the Audio10 as that is also a fairly useless unit, even for its time.

I replaced the rears with Clarions, the fronts with JBLs and the tweeters with Pioneers, the head end is an Alpine, and also an amp in the boot, and it doesn't sound too bad. Certainly a massive improvement to what was there as stock and didn't cost too much either.

The bass response fron the rear is a bit poor but the W202 does not lend itself well to fitting bigger speakers in the rear shelf, unless you start to do some metalwork, and I really did not want to get into carving up the rear shelf, but, could be done.

Sticking bass boxes in the boot are also a bit of a waste of time and money. In the W202 there is soo much insulation etc between the boot and the cabin that the sound simply does not penetrate through.

The Germans in this era may have known how to build a decent car but didn't appear to have a clue as to how to fit in a half decent audio system. This car came out of the factory packed with an eight speaker system that basically was of very poor quality hence poor sound.

To be honest, when I bought my first W202 several years ago I was quite shocked at the poor quality of the original setup.

 

[andy27168]

Hi,
I was lucky the fact that a friend of mine had the door builds and speakers surplus to requirements, he had bought them for his C43 must be ten years ago now, and I was,nt sure whether to buy them, but I looked on the Jehnert website about three years ago now and the W202 was still on there then, though the door builds are for the later facelift door cards, they were about £500 for the builds and all the fittings, bolts screws etc, and the speakers were a further £300+.
After seeing these I quickly changed my mind and paid him the £250 he wanted for them, as they were brand new never been fitted and everything is boxed and as he has his own buisness/shop (Ultimate In-car in Ashurst, hampshire), he would still guarentee them.
I want to do something in the back of the car, but not sure what, rear door builds?, something on the shelf maybe?

 

[andy27168]

I don't know what you currently have in your car or where you eventually want to go with it, but what I did was I ditched the oem front and rear shelf speakers as they were rubbish. I also ditched the Audio10 as that is also a fairly useless unit, even for its time.

I replaced the rears with Clarions, the fronts with JBLs and the tweeters with Pioneers, the head end is an Alpine, and also an amp in the boot, and it doesn't sound too bad. Certainly a massive improvement to what was there as stock and didn't cost too much either.

The bass response fron the rear is a bit poor but the W202 does not lend itself well to fitting bigger speakers in the rear shelf, unless you start to do some metalwork, and I really did not want to get into carving up the rear shelf, but, could be done.

Sticking bass boxes in the boot are also a bit of a waste of time and money. In the W202 there is soo much insulation etc between the boot and the cabin that the sound simply does not penetrate through.

The Germans in this era may have known how to build a decent car but didn't appear to have a clue as to how to fit in a half decent audio system. This car came out of the factory packed with an eight speaker system that basically was of very poor quality hence poor sound.

Mine was 9 speakers, did you not have the OEM sub on the shelf? the fact that you have the rear shelf speakers and rear door speakers seems to suggest to me that you would of done, I never knew mine was there it was only the fact I found a plug by the head unit similar to the ISO plugs.

 

[vijilants]

No OEM sub in mine.

You got your door speaker setup for a steal

Regarding the rear door speakers, forget doing anything there. Pushing sound into the feet of the passengers really does nothing to enhance the audio quality and to be honest is a total waste of time.

I'd concentrate on the rear shelf

 

[andy27168]

Hi,
I,m glad I bought them now, and they do sound pretty good.
Did you see the rear door builds of that C class Lorenser estate?, In the "spotted on E-bay thread" thought they looked quite good.
Regarding pushing sound into my passenger feet I very rarely have passengers in the back of the car anyway, and I would rather put speakers in my doors than mess about to much with the shelf, cutting the metal work etc, though I have not dismissed the idea of replacing the existing OEM speakers, but when I do I will remove the shelf and Dyna-mat the steel structure and fabricate some MDF mounts for the speakers, and mount another set of tweeters in the "C" pillers, I,ll probably put in Focal speakers, and replace the existing Kicker 2 channel Amp for an Audison 4 channel Amp.

 

[91dm]

I’ve replaced the speakers on the rear shelf, fitted 6.5” without any mods to the metal. You just need to make sure the magnets aren’t too big.

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[vijilants]

I’ve replaced the speakers on the rear shelf, fitted 6.5” without any mods to the metal. You just need to make sure the magnets aren’t too big.

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How did you manage to mount them ....from top or below ? Would be nice to see a pic

 

[andy27168]

Hi,
I fitted 6.5" speakers on my C230K, and I did,nt have to cut any metal, I seem to remember using an Auto leads speaker adapter, but it is so long ago I can,t remember for sure.